View Full Version : How to display the Zoom+Focus permanently


Pascal Napo
February 22nd, 2007, 11:37 AM
Hi Everyone,

First of all I'd like to thank the pro and amateurs of this forum. You were very helpfull in many ways in my purchase decision. I just picked up a XHA1 mainly for corporate videos. I just tryed to mess with de customs presets last week-end and ran some test footage in SD and of course HDV. Well, I may be redundant with many people around here, but wouaw, I'm very very pleased with the performance of this camera.

I 've got a minor issue, maybe I did not read carefully the manual but I cannot succeed in making working the display settings in the customization menu. I want the information of the zoom and the focus range to be always displayed in the LCD & Viewfinder and not just while touching the "wheels". So I set the parameters that way according to what it is said in the manual. I saved it on the SD card, dowloaded again on the camera. In the customization setting the information is correctly displayed but nothing changed in the LCD or viewfinder.

Does anyone have in insight?

Any help woud be much appreciated.

thank's

Pascal

Chris Hurd
February 22nd, 2007, 11:48 AM
A frequently asked question. Stand by while I find that discussion thread...

Chris Hurd
February 22nd, 2007, 11:52 AM
Answered at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=85543

Bill Pryor
February 22nd, 2007, 11:53 AM
I've tried the same thing and can't make it stay on either. Actually, the zoom stays on but not the focus. I'd really like the zoom off and focus on. I set it up that way but it always goes back and ignores my setup. I've tried everything numerous times...there must be something I'm not doing right, even though I've been over the manual more than once.

Chris Hurd
February 22nd, 2007, 11:58 AM
Both focus and zoom will stay on, all the time. See link in my post above for instructions.

Pascal Napo
February 22nd, 2007, 12:00 PM
Thank's a lot Chris. I'll try that !

Pascal

Bill Pryor
February 22nd, 2007, 04:37 PM
I tried it. Again. It won't save. No matter what I do, it brings up a custom preset that's different from what I entered. I go back, go through everything again, save it, get out, press the display button and it goes back to the old one.

Barry Richard
February 22nd, 2007, 06:29 PM
I have -- and continue to have after trying it once again -- NO success in getting the focus to stay on display

VERY frustrating

Bill Busby
February 22nd, 2007, 06:56 PM
No problem here. Maybe because I saved to the card?

Bill

Barry Richard
February 22nd, 2007, 07:19 PM
No problem here. Maybe because I saved to the card?

Bill

I tune -- then saved to card

nuthin !

Tom Roper
February 22nd, 2007, 07:26 PM
It works for me unless the focus switch is in auto.

Barry Richard
February 22nd, 2007, 07:48 PM
its just started to work for me (I'd like it to be on even when in auto btw)

how can I get the 2 lines that describe the custom keys removed from my display ???

I have tried setting #8 -- setting them both to off -- no effect

is there another setting ??

Chris Hurd
February 22nd, 2007, 08:04 PM
You guys are following my steps (detailed in the link above) to actually *activate* your custom display settings, right? Because saving to the card and closing the menu is not going to do it.

Bill Pryor
February 22nd, 2007, 09:22 PM
I've tried it every way imaginable but it still won't work. It's like it's stuck on one setting and won't get off.

Bill Busby
February 22nd, 2007, 09:36 PM
Bill, are you using the display button to make your custom display active? I'm assuming you're not, & if so, try this:

Press DISP until no displays at all, not even guides, then push twice... that cycles through the default display & then YOUR custom display, which is what you want.

My apologies if you've already done this.

Bill

Bill Pryor
February 22nd, 2007, 10:43 PM
I've done that. I can't seem to get it to save the settings when I put them in. I go through the whole menu, return at the end, save, the whole bit, but they're not there.

Barry Richard
February 22nd, 2007, 10:54 PM
what seemed to make a difference for me was saving to the card -- and then reading (loading) from the card

(I still cannot make the custom description stuff dissapear though ...)

Chris Hurd
February 22nd, 2007, 11:29 PM
how can I get the 2 lines that describe the custom keys removed from my display?Menu > Display Setup > Next Page > Guide Info > Off.

Hope this helps,

Barry Richard
February 22nd, 2007, 11:39 PM
Menu > Display Setup > Next Page > Guide Info > Off.

Hope this helps,

you made my night !!!

Chris Hurd
February 22nd, 2007, 11:58 PM
I can see that some of you guys are having a hard time activating your custom display settings. Here's a step-by-step guide describing exactly how to display zoom and focus info permanently.

1. Go to the Custom Functions menu. Under option 12 (zoom indicator), choose setting 01 (number). Then choose "apply this set," and "active." Close this menu.

2. Go to the Custom Display menu. Under option 03 (zoom), choose setting 02 (on always). Under option 04 (focus), choose setting 02 (on always). Close this menu.

3. Activate the custom display by pressing the Disp. button on the camcorder (found above the Peaking button). The first push brings up your settings (in this case, the zoom number and focus distance are "now always on" in the viewfinder). A second push of the Disp. button removes everything but the aspect ratio and centering guides. A third push clears everything out of the display entirely. A fourth push returns to default -- not your custom settings, but the camera default.

Press the Display button numerous times in succession so that you can get the hang of how it works. It cycles through four different settings:

Default > Custom > Guides > Off > Default > Custom > Guides > Off > Default > Custom > Guides > Off, etc.

See attached pics for examples.

If for some reason this isn't working for you, it's because you've missed a step somewhere. Go through this post carefully and it *will* work. It is not necessary to save anything to the memory card! You don't have to do that to get the custom display settings to work. All you have to do, is *activate* the settings using the Display button as explained above. Hope this helps,

Richard Hunter
February 23rd, 2007, 01:12 AM
Thanks for this Chris. Will try it out at later today.

Richard

Barry Richard
February 23rd, 2007, 01:55 AM
thanks again Chris -- but I've some more display questions...

I now have focus distance shown -- but if I zoom it disappears. Can this be altered so that always means ALWAYS ???

is there a way to have gain only be displayed when it is something other than zero ?? From what I've seen, it is either always displayed or never displayed -- I don't want it to be displayed when condiitions are normal -- but do when gain is not flat

Chris Hurd
February 23rd, 2007, 07:38 AM
I now have focus distance shown -- but if I zoom it disappears. Can this be altered so that always means ALWAYS? It's true, if you zoom it disappears, and then reappears when you stop zooming. Beats me why it does that. Obviously it's a limitation of the camera. However, the focus distance doesn't change when you zoom (focus distance is displayed only in Manual Focus mode, not Auto Focus), so it's still the same number before and after the zoom.

is there a way to have gain only be displayed when it is something other than zero ?Nope -- it is either always displayed, or never displayed. A limitation of the camera.

Brian Brown
February 23rd, 2007, 09:53 AM
Maybe you already know this, Barry, but you can also turn the zoom graphic into a number. It STILL has the unpleasant side-effect of having the focus distance # disappear whilst zooming... but like Chris said, you can't zoom and focus at the same time anyway.

But the number readout makes it more repeatable for zooms. Plus, I can know where the lens starts stopping down at each number range that can affect my exposure when I'm shooting close to a wide open iris.

HTH,
Brian Brown
BrownCow Productions

Barry Richard
February 23rd, 2007, 10:50 AM
Presumably Canon never thought that you'd ever shift focus during a zoom. Lame really. Focus info is something that I always want to know -- if I'm doing a zoom or even if I'm in AF.

Ironically, many of the other items should be treated as news items -- only "published" when not normal, or when they are changed.

I also don't like the 4 click dsp cycle -- I want the option of 2 cycles -- for me that would be everything, and my custom display.

Barry Richard
February 23rd, 2007, 10:55 AM
Maybe you already know this, Barry, but you can also turn the zoom graphic into a number. It STILL has the unpleasant side-effect of having the focus distance # disappear whilst zooming... but like Chris said, you can't zoom and focus at the same time anyway.

But the number readout makes it more repeatable for zooms. Plus, I can know where the lens starts stopping down at each number range that can affect my exposure when I'm shooting close to a wide open iris.

HTH,
Brian Brown
BrownCow Productions

I've just begun to use the digital zoom display -- as you say, it is more useful than the conventional bar -- and it has the added advantage of occupying less of the screen too.

Brian Brown
February 23rd, 2007, 11:22 AM
Presumably Canon never thought that you'd ever shift focus during a zoom. Lame really.
I suspect it's more of a limitation of the single servo in the lens. This does impact the filmmaker, and action sports shooters. No Hitchcockian dolly zooms or follow-focus zooms with the A1 or G1. Sigh.

But I guess there's only so much to expect at this price point. Just a year ago the features we now take for granted on a sub-$4k HDV camera were "unobtainium"!

Bill Pryor
February 26th, 2007, 02:02 PM
I've done everything numerous times trying to change the display, but only got it to work by saving to the memory card and then activating that, which worked fine.

Dave Halliday
February 26th, 2007, 02:16 PM
To display zoom info *always* you can't have the custom display "exposure" setting "on." camera limitation, but that might help some of you guys who are having trouble.