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Ron Edwards
February 3rd, 2007, 10:37 AM
Anyone know of a machine that will take a preprinted C/D label and apply it to the C/D?

Thanks!
Ron

Steven Gotz
February 3rd, 2007, 01:17 PM
You really ought to take a look at using printable media and getting a printer that prints directly on it.

Mine is getting a little old now, but the Epson Stylus Photo R300 really does a nice job and it was inexpensive.

I have never seen a label application machine.

Tim OBrien
February 3rd, 2007, 06:08 PM
Yup. I've been using an Epson R200 for over a year and REALLY love it.
No messed up labels. No bubbles on the disc. Just hit "print" and forget it.

Sooooooo much more professional looking.

Steve Leverich
February 3rd, 2007, 06:45 PM
Ditto - one thing I've noticed though - with the included software (R300) just one notch up or down in saturation will turn solid color into pastel, or vice versa - it's obvious that printable disks don't "soak up" ink like most papers :=) Steve

Greg Boston
February 3rd, 2007, 06:55 PM
Anyone know of a machine that will take a preprinted C/D label and apply it to the C/D?

I have a Fellowes CD/DVD labeler kit. Go to your local office supply store and you should still be able to find them. Includes a rather simple apparatus for applying labels to discs.

-gb-

Waldemar Winkler
February 3rd, 2007, 08:14 PM
Yup. I've been using an Epson R200 for over a year and REALLY love it.
No messed up labels. No bubbles on the disc. Just hit "print" and forget it.

Sooooooo much more professional looking.

Love my R200...until I have to make a lot of copies. Then it is back to labels. Somehow Epson engineers overlooked the fact one might want to make more than one copy as a time. Comparing white printable cd/dvd's to labels in terms of image quality, the labels win every time. Much brighter colors on the labels. Haven't been able to try the other kind of inkjet printable discs yet. They are supposed to make images really pop!

Steven Gotz
February 3rd, 2007, 09:23 PM
I have found that printing on the R300 takes about the same amount of time as making a copy of the disk. So I just move from the recorder to the printer over and over again. It isn't that hard to click on the Print button.

Labels might have a glossier fancy finish, but I seriously doubt that I would ever take the chance with paper labels again.

Tim OBrien
February 4th, 2007, 02:03 PM
Comparing white printable cd/dvd's to labels in terms of image quality, the labels win every time. Much brighter colors on the labels. Haven't been able to try the other kind of inkjet printable discs yet. They are supposed to make images really pop!

The trick is to >make the image as good as you can in Photoshop >>FIRST<<<

I use Phillips and Taiyo-Yuden inkjet-printable discs (both white and silver) with zero problems and they are not expensive.... www.supermediastore.com is where I get my discs and inkjet cartridges - and their carts are MUCH cheaper than Epsons with great quality.

Mike Teutsch
February 4th, 2007, 02:32 PM
Love my R200...until I have to make a lot of copies. Then it is back to labels. Somehow Epson engineers overlooked the fact one might want to make more than one copy as a time. Comparing white printable cd/dvd's to labels in terms of image quality, the labels win every time. Much brighter colors on the labels. Haven't been able to try the other kind of inkjet printable discs yet. They are supposed to make images really pop!


Well, the truth is Epson did think of multiple copies, just not thoroughly! You can set the printing for multiple copies, but you can't change the disk fast enough to keep from getting an error message. So it is much easier to do one at a time to avoid clearing the errors and I can do them very fast by now. Did about 80 disks just a couple of weeks ago. Went great! I use cartridges bought on ebay, and printing 80+ used less than 1/3 of each cartridge.

I was getting close to running out of ink in a set of Epson’s, so I bought some aftermarket brand on ebay for a very reasonable price. I was printing when the genuines ran low, so I switched. The printer software said, “These are not Epson cartridges!” I hit OK, and continued. I could not tell any difference in the printing, except that the after markets seemed to last longer.

Used to have a CD label installer called a CD Stomper, but I just tossed it out about 8 months ago. Sorry!

Mike

Ron Edwards
March 24th, 2007, 09:46 AM
I have an Epson to make short runs.

Is there a high volumn unit out there to print large jobs?

Steve Leverich
March 24th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Depends on the speed you need - I've been looking at an all-in-one robotic from Rimage, costs about $1400 - you stack 25 disks, load your art and disk files into the modest computer needed with the unit, push the button and go do something else while it burns, tests, rejects failures and prints the good ones.

http://www.videoguys.com/rimage.html

This is a lower price, it was $1900 a month ago. B&H had a couple of good reviews on their site but they're out of stock and out of sponsorship these days.

Here's the manual for it -

http://www.rimage.com/DAM_public/5966.pdf

But nowhere do they tell what the speed of operation is. I've not yet contacted Rimage directly to ask that question.

So far I've not been doing enough volume to warrant the expense, I've been using an R300 and R1800 (wide carriage, gloss coat in addition to 7 color) and haven't gotten around to throwing away my "stomper", but let's just say there's quite a bit of dust on it :=)

HTH... Steve

Allen Williams
March 24th, 2007, 05:17 PM
Anyone know of a machine that will take a preprinted C/D label and apply it to the C/D?

Thanks!
Ron

Neato makes a CD applicator for applying preprinted labels to Cds. They also make the pre cut labels that can be printed on using any computer printer.
Allen W

Chris Harris
March 24th, 2007, 05:30 PM
I'm surprised nobody has said this already, but labels tend to mess up discs, the balance gets thrown off and you end up with unplayable discs sometimes. I'd stay far, far away from labeling.

Alessandro Machi
March 24th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Well, the truth is Epson did think of multiple copies, just not thoroughly! You can set the printing for multiple copies, but you can't change the disk fast enough to keep from getting an error message. So it is much easier to do one at a time to avoid clearing the errors and I can do them very fast by now.....

Mike

You poor guy, you did a bunch of copies by setting the printer to one copy per order? Ouch!

When you need to make 25 copies at a time Ignore the error message that appears after each and every copy and simply hit the flashing red middle light on the printer and it starts making the next copy instantly.

Bob Gillespie
March 25th, 2007, 06:30 PM
I've been using the R300 for about a year now too and just recently started using the Taiyo Yuden Watershield DVDs. Man do they look good. Sure beats the heck out of spraying with Krylon!

Allen Williams
March 25th, 2007, 07:47 PM
I'm surprised nobody has said this already, but labels tend to mess up discs, the balance gets thrown off and you end up with unplayable discs sometimes. I'd stay far, far away from labeling.

After printing several hundred with no problems attributed to labeling I would say it's possible, just like anything is possible, but not likely. I changed to inkjet printables because it's more convenient and has a nicer look not because of technical problems.
As a matter of fact, I have in my posession DVDs that are inkjet printable and I can no longer play them because the printable paper deteroriated and began flaking and falling off the disc. This led to bits and chunks of paper coming off in the DVD player.
Allen W

Allen Williams
March 25th, 2007, 08:02 PM
I have an Epson to make short runs.

Is there a high volumn unit out there to print large jobs?
I use the Primera Bravo Pro. I just timed a small print job with a stop watch.
Twelve discs with labeling only, not full bleed with "normal" print mode. Actual time from hitting the print button to the last disc dropping into the completion bin. 8 minutes, 25 seconds. The printer has a capacity of 100 discs at a time and reloading takes seconds.
With a little research on the web you can save over $800 off the list price.
I find it is well worth the price. No more Epson 260, 300 & 960 for disc printing for me.
The agony of printing to DVD or CD is a thing of the past with an auto printer.
Allen W

Richard Andert
April 7th, 2007, 06:55 PM
My R340 prints a great label but, after about 200 copies, the feeder tray began to overshoot its placement and the machine spits it back out with an error message. I found that I have to hold the feed tray back for about a second with thumb and forefinger as the pull begins for it to work.

Anyone else have that problem with the Epson?

Steven Gotz
April 7th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Actually, I have to keep pressure on it so that it grabs correctly when the time comes. Sort of the opposite problem.

Alessandro Machi
April 7th, 2007, 07:14 PM
My R340 prints a great label but, after about 200 copies, the feeder tray began to overshoot its placement and the machine spits it back out with an error message. I found that I have to hold the feed tray back for about a second with thumb and forefinger as the pull begins for it to work.

Anyone else have that problem with the Epson?

Actually, I have to keep pressure on it so that it grabs correctly when the time comes. Sort of the opposite problem.

Something to try. The lower plastic extension that sits lower than the dvd tray should actually be pulled all the way out so it barely makes contact with the dvd tray, this gives the whole system a bit more friction, traction, or fraction, and it may eliminate the problem you are having.

Terence Murphy
April 9th, 2007, 07:08 AM
My R340 prints a great label but, after about 200 copies, the feeder tray began to overshoot its placement and the machine spits it back out with an error message. I found that I have to hold the feed tray back for about a second with thumb and forefinger as the pull begins for it to work.

Anyone else have that problem with the Epson?

You should check out this thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=86500

Jonathan Jones
April 9th, 2007, 09:22 AM
As a matter of fact, I have in my posession DVDs that are inkjet printable and I can no longer play them because the printable paper deteroriated and began flaking and falling off the disc. This led to bits and chunks of paper coming off in the DVD player.
Allen W

I'm curious as to what brand of media is used in this case. I haven't noticed this in good quality Taiyo Yudens or good Verbatims.
-Jon