I want one!

plays/streams 720p.... hdmi and component out!

see it at apple's website

Just a note, it has NO composite or S-Video outputs.

This was probably done to close the 'analog hole.'

Last time I checked Component was still analog. ;)

What I meant was the ability to 'copy' content to some sort of lower res format like DV/VHS or something like that... ^_^

Watching HD content located on your computer on your television sounds great in theory, but the one thing I'm wondering about is download times ... how long does it take to download a movie in 720p from itunes?

I'm sure they'll have an option to stream it from iTunes, or download. Its going to be tough for them for sure lol. One gripe I have is no 1080 or DVCProHD support...yet ;) Although streaming from iTunes (will stream thigns from online to the iTV to the TV without download) is great you can also stream from 5 computers to one iTv to your Television also. Its a cool product but I dont have a decent TV so its not for me.

The price is certainlly a plus. 300 bucks, man thats awesome.

- Kyle

Just think of this- you author a HD project and export to 720P and check on your big screen TV prior to final burns on whatever HD format wins- nice way to present videos at home and check for color-calrity etc.

Just curious, how is that different from hooking the DVI input of the TV directly into your G5 as a Preview monitor for FCP? Unless the TV is just in a different room I guess...

Hmm, my TV has no HDMI input. Nuts.

hwm

The unit still has Component Video outputs, which no doubt any HDTV has.
My HDTV has firewire, but alas, it won't connect directly to a firewire camera... : (

Well, I do have Component.

hwm

According to the specs, its max resolution is 720p, but the movies your download from iTunes are a max of 640x480. The 720p is the max resolution it can display at connected to your TV.

I have 5 videos distributed on iTunes myself, so I had to encode them at the download max of 640x480. They don't distribute full movies in 720p because the file sizes would be WAY too large.

You can, however, download some of their movie trailers in 720p. I assume that they'll play at their max resolution on the Apple TV unit. It would be silly not to.

Rob Yannetta,

I'm going to start a new thread here (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=603854#post603854) about getting on iTunes, so we don't get off track.

heath

I'm going to start a new thread...Thanks! Great idea, I have a lot of thought on the subject.

What I meant was the ability to 'copy' content to some sort of lower res format like DV/VHS or something like that... ^_^

Gotcha...

Although... couldn't you just copy from iTunes to a DVD or something? I'm not familiar with itunes.

Just pointing out that component is analog. Copying material is a different matter.

Now, will they release movies on iTunes in 720P? Only then will I jump on board.
Great price though!

Mike

Nope, there's no ability to 'burn to DVD' any movie you purchase on iTunes.

This is why I don't buy movies on iTunes. :)

If the Apple TV had at least a S-Video port on it and a MUCH larger hard drive than only 40GB, I'd buy one.

well.... for the cost of 10 blank blueray disks.... you could get one of these.... and for trade show presentations it would me the perfect mobile output of 720p content! whether it be video h264 or even a flash presentation with video embeded and allows the viewer to nav with a mouse! I want one!

and personally.... I don't see any pecture quality difference between hdmi or component hd content to my 720p projector to a 120" screen. so I coose component for it'd easily switchable thru my reciever.

So .... now some vender needs to come out with a nice 6.1 amp that mates well ( size/looks ) with the appletv....

did I say I want one?

I'm sure 720p content it right around the corner with itunes store.

now... we have the content and the box.... all we need is a faster pipe! where the faheck is wimax?

So will "apple TV" totally just crush the Blue Ray / HD DVD market? Like what's the point when you can store HD movies on this thing and put it out on your TV? How soon do you think until they get a 80gig that puts out 1080p? I want this but I may wait for a 2nd generation!!!

One thing that scares me from the blu and hddvd is the write time.... hours.... I'd rather bill the client once for one of these... then move externals back and forth with the content.

It'd be sweet if apple makes a "pro" version with fiber in/out for xraid networking.... also... icing on the cake ( or would it be caramel on the apple ) would be component in!

just think....

hdv ( or even RED ) component out >> appletv >> xraid = rolling analog capture.

not likely, but worth dreaming about.

I think that Apple needs to sell a more beefier box for the professionals like us. Throw in a 250GB+ hard drive and 1080p output and price it for around $500 and BOOM! they just put the final nail in the HD-DVD / Bluray war.

If the Apple TV unit takes off like I think it will, we'll definitely see a beefier box around the corner.

Can't I do the same thing already with a mac mini?
I mean for a couple hundred bucks more my wife can view her MySpace page on our HDTV.

Not entirely, but sort of via Front Row. Apple had to do this because Microsoft has their software, and Sony I believe announced hardware.

heath

Also released yesterday is the new Airport Extreme from Apple. It has 802.11n as does the AppleTV. So, if you buy the new wireless base station and attach it to your Mac via ethernet, the wireless pipe gets much bigger, like 540mbs. So to answer the earlier poster, the bigger wireless pipe is here.

-gb-

This thing is definitely exciting!

I'm just going to hold out until 720P is a given, once it is... I'm in! I also agree with the HDMI/Component comparison, Component will do me just fine for now.

I'll probably buy the 2nd generation with the assumed bigger HD as well. I could always retire this one to the bedroom once that happens. :)

Mike

Also released yesterday is the new Airport Extreme from Apple. It has 802.11n

That's interesting. The 802.11n they're including in this item is a draft of the standard. 802.11n won't be ratified until 2008 at the earliest. Here's a good reference:http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/news/2162596/schedule-802-11n-kit-slips-2008

yes... in the local network the pipe is fast enough.... I use gig-e here.... it's the pipe to and fro the rest of the world that's lag'n.

wimax is sposed to be 30 mile radius at 400Mb sec..... but other than seattle and sf it's nowhere.

It looks awesome! I imagine as people have said, that the hat will drop on HD 720P downloadable movies in the near future.

On a side note, there was no iLife update as per usual since the Mac was not part of this Keynote. Wonder when Apple will begin to unvail their computer news.

It almost seems as though Apple Inc, is thinking of taking everything "mainstream" and their Mac computers might take a backseat to general "consumer" products such as their iPods and iPhones- I bet a gaming console is in their future as well as LCD TV's etc.

I just hope they don't forget about their computing roots!
The PC market is blazing with constant speed improvements- I hope Apple keeps pace with new Mac intros.
(A portable handheld pocketMac might be a fresh idea)

It almost seems as though Apple Inc, is thinking of taking everything "mainstream" and their Mac computers might take a backseat to general "consumer" products such as their iPods and iPhones- I bet a gaming console is in their future as well as LCD TV's etc.

I just hope they don't forget about their computing roots!
The PC market is blazing with constant speed improvements- I hope Apple keeps pace with new Mac intros.
(A portable handheld pocketMac might be a fresh idea)

I doubt the gaming market will be on Apple's mindset. During the Keynote, Jobs even stated that the market was actually rather small.

I have no doubt that Apple will not neglect the computer side. Many industries use Apple's and it is still a huge part of their business. Of course, expansion is on Jobs' mind.

EDIT: Remember, Leopard is supposed to be out in early spring. That Keynote presentation should be in the near future. I hope a Final Cut Studio update is with it.

I was hoping they would announce that they had a new Power Mac using the Intel E5300-series chipsets: 4 cores per processor + 2 processors = 8 cores.

Rob,

I don't see that happening until maybe this fall. The new Mac Pros just started shipping last fall. It's a little too early for an update. Then again, I've seen stranger things. WWDC is usually when they announce pro hardware, NAB, pro video software, etc.

heath

I know they're going to announce something this spring to coincide with the release of the 100% 64-bit OSX Leopard.

Steve Jobs has us at the edge of our seats... again! (fingers crossed)

I'll probably buy the 2nd generation with the assumed bigger HD as well. I could always retire this one to the bedroom once that happens.

Although it's a bit early to speculate, I'm certain some enterprising individuals will find a way to install a larger capacity drive. I mean, if it's a standard drive, why couldn't it be done. Remember the Mac Mini has no provision for end user upgrades, but that didn't stop folks for long after they figured out how to get the case popped open.

I ordered an AppleTV yesterday. I want to be able to stream HD content shot with the F350, authored in a 720P sequence and rendered to QT, out to my 65 inch RPTV in the living room. It doesn't matter that the box outputs 720P because that's the max resolution my tv allows via component input. My set is circa 2002 so it doesn't have HDMI.

-gb-

Hello Greg,
Give me a shout when you get that unit.
I would be interested in seeing that!
Thanks

Hello Greg,
Give me a shout when you get that unit.
I would be interested in seeing that!
Thanks

Will do, Mike!

-gb-

so this thing is wireless? So that means you'll be able to pick up itunes through your wireless connection and do it all from your couch? If this is true i'll be first in line.

http://www.apple.com/appletv/

Say you’ve just downloaded Cars from iTunes. Instead of huddling around your computer to watch, you pop some popcorn while your computer wirelessly syncs your new flick to Apple TV. Then you pull up a seat, put up your feet, and pick up the included Apple Remote to play your movie on TV.

Apple TV connects to your TV via an HDMI port or component video and audio ports. Its built-in, superfast 802.11 wireless capability syncs your iTunes library to any Mac or PC in the house. Best of all, what's on Apple TV stays in sync: Anytime you change your library in iTunes, it changes on Apple TV — wirelessly, automatically.

Not entirely, but sort of via Front Row. Apple had to do this because Microsoft has their software, and Sony I believe announced hardware.

heath
Not just MS's "media" software, but also the Xbox360. Between the HD-DVD add on, HD movies via Xbox Live, and being the "set top box" for telephone companies offering IPTV the 360 has a lot of things going for it.


-A