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Even Solberg
February 16th, 2007, 07:19 AM
Felix: I like the tool, but would it be possible to add numeric input fields to go with the value sliders? Something along the lines of:

Color Gain ----------------|---------------- [ # ]
Red Gain ----------------|---------------- [ # ]
Green Gain ----------------|---------------- [ # ]
....

Makes inputting custom presets from web pages and whatnot easier and more accurate. Just a suggestion.

Jay Rodriguez
February 16th, 2007, 09:02 PM
that'll be a great thing to add

DL'ing the tool tonight and will play with it during the week... Thanks for sharing this Felix!

Even Solberg
February 18th, 2007, 05:36 AM
Oh, and some of the sliders seem to have two values for zero: 0 and -0 ... Surely an undocumented feature. :-)

Felix Theissen
February 18th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Oh, and some of the sliders seem to have two values for zero: 0 and -0 ... Surely an undocumented feature. :-)

That is some thing, which is related to the development environment. But that
does not affect anything related to the presets. Anayway, i will look, whether i
can change it, because -0 is something hat bothers me ;-)
I already have included the feature you proposed (type in values directly).
When i have tested it i will put this next release online.

Felix

Even Solberg
February 18th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Cool beans! Thanks. Looking forward.

Felix Theissen
February 26th, 2007, 08:23 AM
Hi,
i recently added the feature to type in the values directly and a possibility to
reset the application to default and a menu with shortcuts for saving and opening, so
this last release should be more effective for fast typers.
(possible to tab through the number fields)
The fields are selected by just entering them with tab key or the mouse (you donīt need
to click in them, thats only necessary if you want to select certain parts of the
numbers or text in the fields).
since i wrote 4 different versions (XH Editor for mac, XH Editor for win, XLH1
Editor for mac, XLH1 Editor for win)
my testing was maybe not enough and as everytime i tell everybody to be
aware and take care of possible bugs, as this is beta software. The use of
the software is on your own responsibility.
(If you find bugs, please let me know)

Felix

Even Solberg
February 26th, 2007, 09:51 AM
I just downloaded it. Looking good. I'll dink around with it and give you feedback.

Meryem Ersoz
February 26th, 2007, 11:59 AM
hi felix...this looks like a very nice tool, but i'm having the same issues that marty seems to be having. i can save the presets to a file, load them to the SD card, but they're not showing up in-camera. i'm using the unstuffed mac version. any news?

Even Solberg
February 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM
Meryem,

Just to check: You're calling your files PRESETxx.CPF (where xx is a number from 00 to 20), right?

Bill Busby
February 26th, 2007, 01:45 PM
It seems there's too many people having trouble with this. The folder on your SD card has to be named PRESET , just like that, all CAPS & not plural, it's singular.

Drop the preset files found here on the forum in the PRESET folder & everyone should be good to go.

Bill

Meryem Ersoz
February 26th, 2007, 02:37 PM
hi even: i have "PRESET19.CPF" and "PRESET 20.CPF" --they appear as text files, rather than as document files. i don't know how to modify that. i just saved them out of the XH Editor. (since the output menu instructions are in German, i'm a bit afield....)

Felix Theissen
February 26th, 2007, 05:45 PM
hi even: i have "PRESET19.CPF" and "PRESET 20.CPF" --they appear as text files, rather than as document files. i don't know how to modify that. i just saved them out of the XH Editor. (since the output menu instructions are in German, i'm a bit afield....)

Hi Meryem,
are you using the latest release of the XH Editor? You are using the mac editor, right?
When i am saving a preset file out of the XH Editor on my mac
i wonīt get a text file. Are you working on mac OS X?
Can you send me a preset file you made with the editor to my emailadress?
felix.theissen at freenet.de
(substitute the at with the emai sign)
For using presets on a sd card in your camcorder they must be stored in a
folder called "PRESET" on the sd card.
There are two kind of editors on my website: one for the XH A1/G1 camcorder
and one for the XLH1 camcorder.
The presets from one camcorder are not compatible with the other, though
the editors i wrote can convert them.
But be sure to download the right editor for your camera.
If you are working with XH A1 or G1 the XH Editor (not the XLH1 Editor) should work.
Regards
Felix

Meryem Ersoz
February 27th, 2007, 02:38 PM
i'll be happy to send you the files, felix, if you can send me a private e-mail that permits attachments (the DVinfo blind e-mail does not...)

planete@comcast.net

Bill Busby
February 27th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Can you send me a preset file you made with the editor to my emailadress?
felix.theissen at freenet.de
(substitute the at with the emai sign)Felix

Meryem, perhaps you missed this.

Bill

Chris Hurd
February 28th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Felix, you've done a great job programming these little applications.

I have two suggestions for you. First, I think it would be handy to have a "reset all" button, perhaps on the bottom right, to return all of the settings to their default positions. Second, the XH camcorder allows the preset names to include symbols such as -, +, [, etc. I think it would be most helpful if your tuner tool did as well.

Thanks again for creating these, they are most useful! Much appreciated,

Even Solberg
February 28th, 2007, 05:01 PM
A more far-fetched wish of mine would be to have an image that shows the effect of the maniulations. I don't mean to have a live feed or anything. Nor does it have to be exact. But just have it so that if you pull a slider, you have some idea what that might do to your picture.

The image could be something neutral like a portrait, shot with the camera set to default settings or whatever. This might make it easier to understand what's going on.

I realize this would require a lot of work, so it's not exactly a must have item. :-)

Felix Theissen
February 28th, 2007, 05:08 PM
Chris, thank you. You are right, i will change the input for the preset names,
that it can take +, - and so on. I realized that too a few hours after putting
the new releases online. But a reset function is already built in, it is in the
menu and it has a menu shortcut (mac: command-R win: strg-R).
Or should it be a button, too? (i could add one)

Felix

Chris Hurd
February 28th, 2007, 05:17 PM
Thanks Felix, I didn't realize it was in the menu! I think a button would be very helpful. Much appreciated,

Marty Hudzik
March 1st, 2007, 07:06 AM
Second, the XH camcorder allows the preset names to include symbols such as -, +, [, etc.
,

Based on your statement Chris, are you saying the XL-H1 doesn't allow these characters?

I don't have mine in front of me to check. If it doesn't that is fine, but Felix doesn't have access to the H1 to check and I'd hate to see him at this feature the H1 editor also and then have it break something else if it doesn't support it!

Thanks to all!

Felix Theissen
March 1st, 2007, 07:45 AM
Marty you are right, i wonīt add that for the XLH1 Editor until anyone confirms
that it is possible. The thing why i restricted the input to a subset of chars, was
that i had not seen other chars in the preset names and i wanted to be
cautious. But i think that most common chars are posibble in the preset name,
but i cannot verify with the A1 either because of my dealer whom i returned the
second A1 (sad story of my dumbness - i should have stayed with first one, but the canon repair
told me to send it back - and the second has a few faulty pixels with no gain i
definetly did not want to live with) run out off stock and sends me back my money
(i had such a great deal 3280,- euros). But now i found a dealer in Berlin who
will let me test it beforehand in his store. But I have to wait for the first dealer to send
back the money, before i can purchase. I am not in a hurry because i bought
it for a indie project which will not take place before summer, but wanted to
get familiar with the camcorder already.

I am waiting with changing the possible characters of preset name for the XLH1 Editor
unless you or somebody else who owns a XLH1 can give me more information.

Felix

Chris Hurd
March 1st, 2007, 07:57 AM
Here is your confirmation -- the XH is identical to the XL in this regard. Most all of the special characters above the number set on your keyboard are allowable, such as !, @, #, $, %, ^, &, *, (, ), _, +, =, -, [, {, ], [, as well as `, ~, a blank space, and a period (or decimal or dot).

Characters which are NOT allowed are \, |, :, ;, ", ', <, >, ?, /, or a comma.

Main point I'm making is that the XL and XH sets are indeed identical. Hope this helps,

Felix Theissen
March 1st, 2007, 09:25 AM
Thank you, this is a big help.
Will work it in the next version of the editors in the next days.

Felix

Even Solberg
March 5th, 2007, 05:29 PM
Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be easier to have one version on each platform, and just have the user select the camera type before adjusting the values, instead of individual versions for each camera?

Felix Theissen
March 6th, 2007, 02:52 AM
New versions are online. I added a reset button for the recently added reset
function (reset to the default values).
And i changed for the XH and XLH1 editor the possible characters for the
internal preset names.
If someone who uses a windows version could confirm that all of the allowed
characters (based on the last post in this thread of Chris Hurd) and no
unallowed characters are possible. (I am a mac guy and i am working on a
macbook pro with parallels win but i donīt know how to generate a few
characters in the win world e.g. [,],{,},|,\, etc. with my mac keyboard and
the development environment i use to compile the windows version behaves
different on mac and win)

As with any version of these editors: the use is on your own responsibility.
take care it is beta software. if you find a bug, please let me know.

Felix

P.S. Even, i thought of this posibility too, to merge the two editors in one,
but for now i will let it as it is.

David McGiffert
March 7th, 2007, 01:18 AM
Felix,

Your editor is great. Thank you for all the work. It has really helped.
Where should I send a donation?

David (Tourist...lol, that cracks me up)

Meryem Ersoz
March 7th, 2007, 07:58 AM
i agree with david, you need a donation button so we can send you a few bucks. it's a huge time-saver. i've been having a great time with this bit of freeware, since i started using it properly....thanks, felix.

Felix Theissen
March 7th, 2007, 10:42 AM
Thank you, David and Meryem. I like places like this a lot, where people are
willing to share their experiences and knowledge (how much more difficult it
would have been 10, 15 years ago to get the information i am looking for)
and i am happy to make my contribution in form of this little applications.
(and it was some fun, too, to gather the information and make the
programming)
So, just enjoy and have fun ;-)

Felix

Brian Pratt
February 12th, 2009, 03:30 AM
This doesn't have all the functionality of Console but is an alternative as far as Preset tuning is concerned - and it is free. Load in Presets from your SD card, modify quickly with sliders and resave - easy!

XH Tuner:
Aktionen : XHTuner - slashCAM freeware tool for finetuning the Canon XH A1 and XH G1: Einleitung / System Requirements / Installation / Licence / Instructions (http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Aktionen/XHTuner---slashCAM--freeware-tool-for-finetuning-the-Canon-XH-A1-and-XH-G1.html)

Kees van Duijvenbode
February 12th, 2009, 04:07 AM
Although this is a very good Preset configurator, I use it for over a year already, it cann't absolutely be compared to Console1.1. That's comparing apples and pears. With Console1.1 and your camera connected you can immediately see the effect of altering a value. That's the big difference.

Brian Pratt
February 12th, 2009, 04:22 AM
I agree (I've got Console 1.1 as well), but its handy for altering presets .. I only came across XH Tuner the other day while searching Google.

Daniel Caruso
February 12th, 2009, 10:26 PM
looks pretty nice, definatley a preset helper. my dslr has a program like this one. correct me if im wrong...but is this only pc based. any free preset software for mac platforms?

dan

Chris Hurd
February 12th, 2009, 10:31 PM
Daniel, you can choose either Mac or PC versions from this location:

http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/Web-Site/custom%20presets%20editors%20for%20mac%20and%20win.html

I only came across XH Tuner the other day while searching Google.Should have searched here first! Thread now merged with
our original six-page XH Custom Preset Tuner discussion.

Daniel Caruso
February 14th, 2009, 10:37 PM
much appreciated chris! you seem to be very knowledgeable around the a1/film...thanks!=].

does anyone know if this app works well for its purpose.

dan

Kees van Duijvenbode
February 16th, 2009, 06:35 AM
It works very well and it makes configuring a preset a lot easier than configuring it in the A1. But at the end, for checking the results, you always have to transport a preset to the A1.