Has anyone use the A1 for weddings. I'm thinking of purchasing another cam to go along with my Sony FX1. Are the low lights comparable to the FX1?

Anyone with experience with both cameras or equivalent please chime in. My wallet is itching.

TIA,
Ray

No, the FX1 low light capabilites are much better.

I have two FX1s and an HC1. The latter is useful for backup shots in decent lighting, but in poor lighting the image deteriorates much more than the FX1.

If outside in well lit environemnts definately yes, the quality of the image is indeed good looking enough to impress wedding clients. Indoors if well let the camera is still useable but in the terribely underlit receptions (and some ceremonies) then definately not, the image becomes just too muddy. I'm going to post up a sample later tonight of a wedding highlight reel shot with my HC1 (approximately the same low light capabilities of A1U).

Ray,

I've owned the FX1 and currently the A1U (also for sale in classifieds) and the low light performance is very noticeable between the two in dim lighting. I would agree with other that outside footage is great but otherwise a dim ceremony or reception could get messy, or dark as it were.

Two Z1s and an A1: the A1 is significantly worse in low light - almost unusable. 7 lux, compared to 3 lux, according to Sony's spec, and the Z1 footage can be pushed much more in camera and in post, and still look reasonable.

Oh, for an HDV camera with the PD-170's performance (1 lux)!

I do know people that use them for weddings.

This guy uses the HC1 variant to shoot weddings, check out the clips:
http://jcdv.com/demos.htm

I do know people that use them for weddings.

This guy uses the HC1 variant to shoot weddings, check out the clips:
http://jcdv.com/demos.htm
Yes I know of his work. However you should note that ne also uses on camera lighting. You can tell from some of his clips, like the highlight reel where at the end the door closes and you can see the on camera lights hot spot on the door.

Again, these cmaeras are great when there is available light, like supplemental lighting or on camera lighting, but, if there is none then the color values drop off subatantially in a dimly lit ballroom.

I've been looking for the right light to use on my A1U for weddings. I have the Sony HVL-20DMA on my wish list. Does anyone have a better suggestion?

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I do know people that use them for weddings.

This guy uses the HC1 variant to shoot weddings, check out the clips:
http://jcdv.com/demos.htm
Hey Jeff, Mike and Ray! Just wanted to chime in here for a sec. Jeff, thanks for suggesting my demos! Mike, you're right, you do need a light on these and there are hotspots that develops... Ray, these cameras can do very good for weddings with light, early this year I had to replace my cameras all at once so I opted for the HC1.... my clients don't notice hotspots and such, and not once had a negative comment on picture quality on any of their movies... does this mean that is acceptable? That is subjective based on the viewer. Atleast it looks much better than our local news channels! I'm not kidding either.

I have seen people use the HC1/A1 NOT to their full potential because of one reason or another and just chock it up to being "inferior"... ah well, whatever. They do and can make good cams for use in weddings as long as you don't rely on "auto" mode.

I suggest getting a V1 or Z1 to use as the main cam and the A1/HC1 as backups provided you can use them properly. I may be selling one this year (I have 3) and getting a V1 or Z1... haven't decided yet on which.

Hope this helps some.

Hey Jeff, Mike and Ray! Just wanted to chime in here for a sec. Jeff, thanks for suggesting my demos! Mike, you're right, you do need a light on these and there are hotspots that develops... Ray, these cameras can do very good for weddings with light, early this year I had to replace my cameras all at once so I opted for the HC1.... my clients don't notice hotspots and such, and not once had a negative comment on picture quality on any of their movies... does this mean that is acceptable? That is subjective based on the viewer. Atleast it looks much better than our local news channels! I'm not kidding either.

I have seen people use the HC1/A1 NOT to their full potential because of one reason or another and just chock it up to being "inferior"... ah well, whatever. They do and can make good cams for use in weddings as long as you don't rely on "auto" mode.

I suggest getting a V1 or Z1 to use as the main cam and the A1/HC1 as backups provided you can use them properly. I may be selling one this year (I have 3) and getting a V1 or Z1... haven't decided yet on which.

Hope this helps some.
BTW Jerome, sorry that I failed to mention that I thought that your demos looked great.

A Wedding Highlight Reel shot entirely with the HC1, you can judge the quality for yourself in comparision to 3 chip cameras.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=81781

Please ignore my first post regarding download instructions see post#6 for simple instructions.

BTW Jerome, sorry that I failed to mention that I thought that your demos looked great.
No problem, but thanks. IMO, if I had a better main camera, my demos could look Excellent---atleast much better.

I agree with everyone else regarding the HC1. I use the camera as a backup to my FX1, and the image is excellent for daylight ceremonies or very well-lit rooms. But in a dimly-lit church or reception hall, it is almost worthless without an on-camera light. (With the identical conditions, I get great footage in full manual with the FX1.)

With a light in these dimly-lit situations, the HC1 footage is great.

I got a deal on a clearance HC1 ($1,250.00), but for the cost of the A1U, I would spend a little extra and get another FX1. They're right around $3k right now with the recent releases of the FX7 and V1U.

Hope this helps!

A Wedding Highlight Reel shot entirely with the HC1, you can judge the quality for yourself in comparision to 3 chip cameras.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=81781

Please ignore my first post regarding download instructions see post#6 for simple instructions.
Nice footage Michael. I didn't care for all the flash transitions, but jsut my opinion. Personally speaking, you can't compare just based on the number of chips a camera has. Put a 3 CCD in the hands of a total noobie and it can look worse than a pro with a 1st generation 1 chipper. CMOS and CCD are different animals, both having different advantages/disadvantages...

Your 2 part highlight just showcased how a 1 chip CMOS camera can knock the socks off of some 3CCD cams out there. Good job!

Nice footage Michael. I didn't care for all the flash transitions, but jsut my opinion. Personally speaking, you can't compare just based on the number of chips a camera has. Put a 3 CCD in the hands of a total noobie and it can look worse than a pro with a 1st generation 1 chipper. CMOS and CCD are different animals, both having different advantages/disadvantages...


Agreed I went overboard on the flash transitions & I will look out for that in the future.

And I 100% agree that it's never the wand, but the magician. When shooting 3chip vs 1chip cameras in good light the average viewer will not notice a significant technical difference in picture quality & from there on it's up to the skills of the videographer and not the camera that will ultimately make the video work or not.


Your 2 part highlight just showcased how a 1 chip CMOS camera can knock the socks off of some 3CCD cams out there. Good job!

Thank you! Altho I did purchase an XH-A1 for lowlight/indoors work, my trusty HC1 will still remain my primary workhorse for outdoors work.

BTW Jerome I checked out ur site, the xmas eve wedding trailer was great!

BTW Jerome I checked out ur site, the xmas eve wedding trailer was great!
Thanks! Would you believe me when I tell you I had that up that night?

Jerome,

I'm really impressed with your work, very nice job on the clips. If I may ask, what software editing suite are using, that you can achieve such great results in such a short timeframe (like the X-mas clip that you did the same night). Vegas, Premiere, Avid???

Jerome,

I'm really impressed with your work, very nice job on the clips. If I may ask, what software editing suite are using, that you can achieve such great results in such a short timeframe (like the X-mas clip that you did the same night). Vegas, Premiere, Avid???
Thanks Alex. I'm using Vegas 7. I have a pretty slick workflow for making trailers "fast"... similar to how people do SDE's without a DTE device. When I get one of those puppies, I'll spit them out in about an hour.