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Joel Aaron November 14th, 2006, 06:47 PM I'm thinking about adding a hard disk recorder to my HD-100 and I'm curious what you guys would advise regarding the DR-HD100 vs. the new Firestore's and other brands out there.
Best bang for buck?
Bill Ravens November 14th, 2006, 06:57 PM i've got a couple of fs-4HD's that work really well. they're a lot cheaper than the fs100's, but, then, they don't power up when the hd100 powers up.
Carl Hicks November 14th, 2006, 09:46 PM I'm thinking about adding a hard disk recorder to my HD-100 and I'm curious what you guys would advise regarding the DR-HD100 vs. the new Firestore's and other brands out there.
Best bang for buck?
The DR-HD100 has the following advantages over the FS-4:
1. Status in the viewfinder/LCD monitor - you can see in the viewfinder how many minutes are available on the drive, and you can see what mode it is in. This assures you that the drive is getting a good signal, and that it is rolling when it's supposed to. I think this is really important to know!
2. Power Management - when you turn the camera off, the drive will shut off as well
3. Split Record - allows you to program the camera so that one start button will roll only the tape, and another start button will roll only the drive.
Some nice features that are worth the small difference in price.
Regards,
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Carl Hicks
JVC Professional Products Company
Brian Luce November 15th, 2006, 03:39 AM what is the difference in price between the units?
Matt Ecklund November 15th, 2006, 01:31 PM Can the firestore record to 480p while the camera shoots to tape in 720p or vice versa?
Jack Walker November 15th, 2006, 02:03 PM what is the difference in price between the units?
FIRESTORE FS4 80GB $1699.00 AT B&H
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=404565&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
DR-HD100 80GB $1599.95 AT B&H
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=401416&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
The drive for with the special features for the JVC camera is $100 cheaper at B&H for the same capacity as the straight FS4.
Bill Ravens November 15th, 2006, 02:24 PM the 40Gb drives are the ones I was referring to: $899
Joel Aaron November 15th, 2006, 05:23 PM the 40Gb drives are the ones I was referring to: $899
I just saw them at another site for $699. That's starting to be a pretty big price difference. I notice 24p is not listed as a supported format. I'm sure it is - but can you verify it handles 24p OK?
Bill Ravens November 15th, 2006, 08:57 PM 24P works fine.....www.videoguys.com..yep $699...and he's a sponsor of dvinfo.net
Set the mode to "tapeless" and trigger recording .m2t to the hard drive without headwear on the tape transport.
Carl Hicks November 15th, 2006, 10:01 PM 24P works fine.....www.videoguys.com..yep $699...and he's a sponsor of dvinfo.net
Set the mode to "tapeless" and trigger recording .m2t to the hard drive without headwear on the tape transport.
Gentlemen,
Keep in mind that the Focus FS4HD-40GB DOES NOT give you the following functions, which the JVC DR-HD100-40 DOES give you:
1. Status in the viewfinder/LCD monitor - you can see in the viewfinder how many minutes are available on the drive, and you can see what mode it is in. This assures you that the drive is getting a good signal, and that it is rolling when it's supposed to. I think this is really important to know!
2. Power Management - when you turn the camera off, the drive will shut off as well
3. Split Record - allows you to program the camera so that one start button will roll only the tape, and another start button will roll only the drive.
4. Quicktime HDV for 30p, MXF, Avid OMF and Pinnacle AVI support.
5. Retro Record modes so you'll never miss a shot.
6. Scene Marking which allows clips to be categorized into prenamed folders on disk while you shoot.
7. Uer definable time lapse and loop playback modes.
Some nice features that are worth the in price.
Carl Hicks November 15th, 2006, 10:03 PM Can the firestore record to 480p while the camera shoots to tape in 720p or vice versa?
No. The record mode menu in the camera controls the record mode for both tape and HDD.
Jonathan Porter November 16th, 2006, 03:21 AM Is it possible to play a tape in camera and record back onto the DR-HD100? I was thinking of using this option if possible for backing up to a rev drive for archival (record to HDD then copy the M2T files to either a back up drive or REV drive)
JP
Drew Curran November 16th, 2006, 05:23 AM Hi
Anyone using the DR-HD100 in the UK? Does it support Quicktime 25p?
Thanks
Andrew
Carl Hicks November 16th, 2006, 06:43 AM Is it possible to play a tape in camera and record back onto the DR-HD100? I was thinking of using this option if possible for backing up to a rev drive for archival (record to HDD then copy the M2T files to either a back up drive or REV drive)
JP
Maybe. I will check that today while I'm working a trade show.
Brian Chow November 20th, 2006, 02:16 PM For those that already use the hard drive recording systems, has anyone ever had any problems with missing files, missed shots etc. or does everyone still roll tape at the same time? Just curious, thinking about going this route but wondered about the consistency and the firewire plug.
Thanks,
Brian
Bill Ravens November 20th, 2006, 02:30 PM For a while, I was nervous about shooting without tape backup. Things have now become so routine and reliable that I no longer run tape in my camera...it saves transport hours.
..and Carl, yes, these are nice features to have. They're certainly conveniences, however, none of these feature are show stoppers without them. If I didn't already own two FS4's, I'd probably buy the JVC dr-HD100.
Robert Castiglione November 20th, 2006, 05:26 PM A tangential question.
I shoot in 25P and have had dreadful problems with the whole FCP capture issue. Will these hard disk recorder devices eliminate that capture problem for 25P? Sorry if this is a basic question but I know little of these devices.
Rob
Bill Ravens November 20th, 2006, 05:55 PM Rob...
I can't really answer your question, since I run Vegas on a PC. Essentially, "capturing" has already occurred by the time the files get written onto the hard drive. At that point, FCP only needs to be able to recognize the m2t file.
Robert Castiglione November 20th, 2006, 07:10 PM Thanks Bill. Sounds promising. I might start a separate thread on the issue to see if the question can be answered definitively.
Rob
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