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David Phillips
November 1st, 2006, 04:31 AM
FCP3/MacG4
Hi
I guess I've inadvertantly hit a setting somewhere without realising it.
Each clip I drop into the timeline needs rendering. I also notice that the canvas window shows that the clip has been auto re-sized, thus requiring the render in the timeline.
What have I done? I'm tearing my hair out, well I would do if I had any!!
Viwer settings are, fit to window 52%
Canvas settings are fit to window 52%
I've tried all combinations of window settings without success.
Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.
Cheeres, Dave

David Scattergood
November 1st, 2006, 06:49 AM
I've only just started using FCP over the past couple of days - I too have this issue, though I presumed it was native to FCP. I'm having to render small titles and audio also.
If there is indeed a 'switch' to turn this off then I'd like to know also.

Martin Mayer
November 1st, 2006, 07:49 AM
Your sequence settings almost certainly don't match your captured footage settings.

Use "Easy Setup" before capturing footage and before creating sequences.

BTW: Changing settings using "Easy Setup" AFTER you've created sequences and catured footage is too late. Sequence settings and captured footage settings won't change once created/captured. :-(

David Scattergood
November 1st, 2006, 07:51 AM
Thanks Martin - aside from taking the rendering process out of the equation (at least for a while) is it good practice to use easy set-up as standard?

David Scattergood
November 1st, 2006, 08:11 AM
Thanks Martin - aside from taking the rendering process out of the equation (at least for a while) is it good practice to use easy set-up as standard?

Martin Mayer
November 1st, 2006, 08:24 AM
Yes, I would always use it before anything else when setting up a new project. It makes ALL the settings you need, and more importantly: makes them all the same! (Which is probably the reason for your problem.)

Meryem Ersoz
November 1st, 2006, 09:14 AM
the minute you see this happening--"everything needs rendering"--it means a discrepancy in your desired formatting/outputting settings that needs fixed. drop everything and fix it immediately. you will save yourself hours of pain and suffering.

David Phillips
November 1st, 2006, 01:16 PM
Hi all, I think I've solved the problem.
The footage we are capturing came fom a customers Sony Handycam and was shot in widescreen mode.
As this is not true widescreen it would make sense to assume it needs rendering once in the timeline.
We tried footage shot on our own XL2s and there's no problem.
Cheers all.
Dave

David Scattergood
November 1st, 2006, 02:17 PM
Actually, just realised that my footage was 4:3 (specifically had to record in this mode for this particular project - usually true 16:9) - as I recorded this in SD would FCP automatically set to 4:3 SD (it states DV Pal for video settings). This may explain my constand rendering battle also. I will adhere to easy setup from now though.

David Phillips
November 1st, 2006, 03:05 PM
David try this.
Click your timeline, go up to sequence, select settings and check the box anamorphic. This should solve the prob of capturing in w/screen. No rendering required.
Cheers, Dave

David Scattergood
November 1st, 2006, 03:49 PM
Cheers David - I can see that now. I've actually got mixed footage to play around with at the moment - SD 25p 16:0/SD 25p 4:3 and SD 50i (soon HDV 25p).
Not sure whether his would fall under DV PAL 48Khz or DV PAL 48Khz 24 @ 25 ??

David Phillips
November 1st, 2006, 04:37 PM
David, I'm using mixed footage also. Clicking the box doesn't seem to pose any problems. Give it a try.
Dave

David Scattergood
November 8th, 2006, 04:20 PM
Sorry to drag this back up, but I'm having a little headache over this...
I'm slowly getting to grips with FCP and currently attempting to capture 25p SD from my camera - both anamorpic and 4:3 (footage is mixed).
The only option I can see in easy set up is for DV PAL - would this be 25p (there another option - 24@25...not too sure what that is?).
I hit the easy set up option and created new project, but I'm still having to render, for example, imported audio files?
Any ideas folks?
Thanks.

Nate Schmidt
November 8th, 2006, 04:51 PM
The audio problem is most likely due to it not being a 48 kHz AIFF file. FCP does not play nice with mp3's especially, you can use iTunes or Quicktime to convert your audio into a more friendly format.

David Scattergood
November 9th, 2006, 03:29 AM
Thanks Nate - the audio is from iTunes as it happens but I'm guessing the format isn't 48khz. I'll set up a new folder purely for FCP audio imports, converting them beforehand if necessary.
The 48khz bit is interesting - I'll be recording music via Logic Pro and was thinking of sticking to 44khz for most projects, I guess I should therefore use 48khz sampling rate (if I'm on the right track here?).

Am I ok with the DV PAL easy set up for 25p (SD) footage?

David Phillips
November 10th, 2006, 10:20 AM
David
I've just finished a project where I had to use a mix of widescreen and normal, this is how I got round it.
If you drop a widescreen clip into the timeline it will show the red render bar along the top of the clip. Highlight the clip and go to the top tool-bar and click on Sequence-Settings. A box will open. Check the box marked Anamorphic 16.9. The clip in the time-line should now show that rendering is not required.
I have noticed a problem when I've tried to mix both in the timeline. One way round this is to open a new sequence for widescreen or vice-versa.
I probably do things different to most like when I'm buring to DVD. I just play straight from the timeline to a DVD recorder, saves hours and hours.
Never had probs with audio, yet.
Dave

Greg Boston
November 10th, 2006, 02:44 PM
The 48khz bit is interesting - I'll be recording music via Logic Pro and was thinking of sticking to 44khz for most projects, I guess I should therefore use 48khz sampling rate (if I'm on the right track here?).

The 44.1 khz sampling rate is the standard for CD audio while most DV audio tracks are at 48 khz. The mini-dv spec also allows 4 channel audio, but at 32 khz sampling with 12 bit depth.

But yeah, if you use standard video setups in FCP, it's going to be looking for audio at 48 khz/ 16 bit.

-gb-

Martin Mayer
November 10th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Just to support Greg: there is no choice here - if you want an easy life in FCP audio (and in fact in any NLE audio) it HAS to be 48kHz.

David (Scattergood): DON'T be tempted to "stick to 44.1kHz for most projects" for any reason.

David Scattergood
November 11th, 2006, 05:40 AM
Thanks folks.
I'm converting specific audio/music tracks in iTunes/Quicktime to AAC - it's a really quick process. Slight concern that upgrading 44khz (or even less when talking about AIF/MP3') to 48khz might add a couple of gremlins (or at least waste space).
But from now on I'll be recording audio in Logic at 48khz...also realising I have a really nice DAT machine which is probably out of a job now!
David
I've just finished a project where I had to use a mix of widescreen and normal, this is how I got round it.
If you drop a widescreen clip into the timeline it will show the red render bar along the top of the clip. Highlight the clip and go to the top tool-bar and click on Sequence-Settings. A box will open. Check the box marked Anamorphic 16.9. The clip in the time-line should now show that rendering is not required.
I have noticed a problem when I've tried to mix both in the timeline. One way round this is to open a new sequence for widescreen or vice-versa.
I probably do things different to most like when I'm buring to DVD. I just play straight from the timeline to a DVD recorder, saves hours and hours.
Never had probs with audio, yet.

Cheers Dave - I'll give that a whirl - can I confirm that DV PAL is correct for 25p (SD) or should I use the 24@25 setting (not entirely sure what this means)?
Many thanks.