View Full Version : UGLY BETTY (stupid)


Frank Granovski
September 29th, 2006, 01:04 PM
I watched it last night. It wasn't bad but it wasn't good. I'm going to pass on this one too, in the way of new TV shows. So now I'll hold out for Lost, 24 and Dr. Who. I wish they'd bring back Captain Kirk and boys, though.

Tim Hodgson
September 29th, 2006, 06:09 PM
"Captain Kirk and the boys" ??? Really Frank, you're showing your age don't you think??

Mike Teutsch
September 29th, 2006, 06:14 PM
"Captain Kirk and the boys" ??? Really Frank, you're showing your age don't you think??

Sure would beat a lot of the current crop of shows! :)

Mike

Chris Barcellos
September 29th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Captain Kirk does just fine on Boston Legal.....

Thomas Smet
September 29th, 2006, 07:00 PM
Maybe we can have a new show called "Enterprise Legal" where Kirk retires and becomes a lawyer that flirts and sleep with all the hot young alien chicks.

oh wait...

I'm sure that would really get Star Trek on track again.

Jaadgy Akanni
September 29th, 2006, 07:08 PM
I for one, have never liked second and third generations of a show whose original version was so brilliantly done. I saw the original colombian version of "Betty La Fea"(Ugly Betty) which I loved, but was nauseated after watching a few seconds of the mexican version. I can imagine how horrible the american version is. In most cases, when a remake of a brilliant piece is made, producers and writers miss the point and sin from omitting the aspects that made the original version so good. It could be the actors, the writing, the camera work, the timing of the dialogue-but something always goes wrong.
The same can be said about "LA FEMME NIKITA" which was remade in america under the title "Point of No Return"- just horrendous.
However I did like "Vanilla Sky" which was a remake of the original spanish blockbuster "Abre Los Ojos"(Open Your Eyes). But this was an exception.

Richard Alvarez
September 29th, 2006, 08:49 PM
Synchronicity... I just turned on the Tube and guess what's showing

TERROR at 20,000 FEET

The great Twilight Zone episode with Shatner as the guy who spots the creature on the wing of the plane during a stormy night flight. You youngsters MIGHT remember the remake. But man, what a cheezy costume this creature has. Oh well, black and white noir lighting in a plane, at night.. yeah, it's still good.

Don Bloom
September 29th, 2006, 09:19 PM
One of the ALL time BEST ever episodes of any TV show.
I do remember it! Kinda frightening! (that I remember it that is:-)
Don

Frank Granovski
September 30th, 2006, 03:52 AM
Maybe I'll have to get more channels...for better quality re-runs. :-(

J. Stephen McDonald
September 30th, 2006, 04:40 AM
For me, of the 8 new prime-time shows I've watched, only two are possible keepers and the rest throwaways. There were some interesting and well-done Summer series this year, but they have all disappeared without any word of their possible revival later. The very worst new shows I've seen, despite having well-known actors and big budgets, are "Shark" and "Justice". I could barely make it through their pilot episodes. Really good shows vanish and bad ones survive-----good thing this reverse-Darwinism doesn't apply to species as it does to television.

Nate Schmidt
September 30th, 2006, 11:33 AM
If we're talking about good shows that disappear... I miss Firefly :(

Don Donatello
September 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM
i thought Betty was very good ... have to see if they can keep it up for weeks ... i wonder how much demographic's is playing in liking and disliking betty .. ... over 50 here and like it

Glenn Chan
September 30th, 2006, 03:06 PM
I for one, have never liked second and third generations of a show whose original version was so brilliantly done. I saw the original colombian version of "Betty La Fea"(Ugly Betty) which I loved, but was nauseated after watching a few seconds of the mexican version. I can imagine how horrible the american version is. In most cases, when a remake of a brilliant piece is made, producers and writers miss the point and sin from omitting the aspects that made the original version so good. It could be the actors, the writing, the camera work, the timing of the dialogue-but something always goes wrong.
It seems like sequels / remakes rarely live up to the original, but I think that's because the originals are really good. Whereas if you make any show, you are likely to end up with something average. It's not like you're going to churn out hit after hit after hit.

It's because people don't churn out hit after hit after hit that the sequels rarely live up to the original. As far the originals go, they aren't worth remaking unless they were a hit to begin with (with some exceptions I suppose). Once in a while a sequel will be better than the original... by chance, that's to be expected.

The concept in statistics is called "regression to the mean".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean

Gabriel Yeager
September 30th, 2006, 03:15 PM
If we're talking about good shows that disappear... I miss Firefly :(

I'm with Nate! That was a good show! The only show that I'm hooked on right now is, "Prison Break"! That is an awesome show!

~Gabriel~

Frank Granovski
September 30th, 2006, 03:28 PM
I didn't know that Ugly Betty was a remake, a copy of the original. The new Betty was promoted as a new original show. Liars! :-)

Nate Schmidt
September 30th, 2006, 04:38 PM
Gabriel what's up? Glad to meet another "browncoat" on the boards!

Gabriel Yeager
September 30th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Gabriel what's up? Glad to meet another "browncoat" on the boards!

Not much... Just looking for a camera.
mind if I ask what "browncoat" is?

~Gabriel~

Nate Schmidt
September 30th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Basically just a term for a fan of Firefly. Browncoats were the name given to the army that resisted the Alliance in the show, of which the captain of Serenity was. Think "Trekkie" - Star Trek fan.

Frank Granovski
October 1st, 2006, 07:53 PM
Who here thinks Betty is ugly? I wonder what she really looks like.

J. Stephen McDonald
October 1st, 2006, 08:02 PM
Who here thinks Betty is ugly? I wonder what she really looks like.

The actress was on an entertainment news show a few days ago. Without the glasses, the removable tooth braces and a dorky hairdo, she was passably good-looking.

Frank Granovski
October 1st, 2006, 08:10 PM
So, was she sexy?

Joe Carney
October 2nd, 2006, 01:57 PM
I watched it last night. It wasn't bad but it wasn't good. I'm going to pass on this one too, in the way of new TV shows. So now I'll hold out for Lost, 24 and Dr. Who. I wish they'd bring back Captain Kirk and boys, though.

Ask and ye shall receive...
They are recreating the characters of TOS, including Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty,Chekov, Uhura....These guys have a completely accurate replica of the TOS bridge and to date there have been more than 30 million downloads. Also, Tim Russ from Voyager has directed a new show using some of the original characters at their set.

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

The actress everyone is refering to is
America Ferrera, a latin american actress who came to fame in
'Real Women have Curves', and more recently 'The Sisterhood of the travelling pants'.
She's listed on IMDB.

Charles Papert
October 2nd, 2006, 10:27 PM
So what do you guys think of the remastered HD Star Trek episodes that are currently airing late night on NBC? I can't get over the color saturation myself--the reds pop so hard I almost can't hear dialogue over them--but overall it's fun to watch. The new CGI effects shots are slightly disturbing, but at least in the spirit of the original (unlike Mr. Lucas' efforts).

Keith Loh
October 2nd, 2006, 10:51 PM
I saw the Balance of Terror and thought the new CG was pretty understated. So a thumbs up for me.

Jay Kavi
October 4th, 2006, 01:46 AM
I really liked "Ugly Betty" Its definitly not perfect though.

J. Stephen McDonald
October 9th, 2006, 02:51 AM
The Mexican version, "La Fea Mas Bella", about a young woman named "Lety", seems to have the same basic theme, but a much different storyline. It's on Univision and is a significantly awful program. I may be mistaken, but I think that Lety is played by a guy. I watch it occasionally, along with others on this channel and Telemundo, to improve my facility with Spanish, so program content is secondary.

Jaadgy Akanni
October 9th, 2006, 03:00 AM
The Mexican version, "La Fea Mas Bella", about a young woman named "Lety", seems to have the same basic theme, but a much different storyline. It's on Univision and is a significantly awful program. I may be mistaken, but I think that Lety is played by a guy. I watch it occasionally, along with others on this channel and Telemundo, to improve my facility with Spanish, so program content is secondary.
J. Stephen you're right, the mexican version is an awful version of the original, which was a Colombian telenovela called "Betty La Fea" and which was actually brilliant. However the main role in the mexican version is also a girl-it's not a guy...hahaha. Colombian and Venezuelan shows are usually better than mexican shows 'cause they're written and produced with a higher level of writing and directing.

David Jimerson
October 9th, 2006, 09:42 AM
So, was she sexy?

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/1065229/HH/1065229/iid_950736.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Ferrera,%20America

Judge for yourself.

Chris Hurd
October 16th, 2006, 06:30 AM
Glad to meet another "browncoat" on the boards!Another browncoat reporting...

Alliance Commander: "You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war?"

Zoe: "Fought with a lot of people in the war."

Alliance Commander: "And your husband?"

Zoe: "Fight with him sometimes, too."