Stopped by Guitar Center today to try and get an adapter that would let me connect my M-Audio LX4's studio monitors to the new Mac Pro. They connect via 1/4" Balanced TRS plugs. They only had one type of 1/8" to 1/4" TRD female adapter but it wasn't balanced.

I wondered about simply porting the M-Audio Audiophile 192 card over until I realized it was a PCI card....Mac Pros only have PCI-x I believe.

The specialist at Guitar Center suggested I invest in an EXTERNAL sound card. What is a relatively good one without breaking the bank. The only requirements I have is that it will accept the 1/4" balanced TRS plugs from my LX4s and maybe even an onboard XLR for when I want to use the Voice-Over feature in FCP. TIA

The Fast Track Pro by M-Audio is decent. I use one w/my MBP and like it a lot. It has two 1/4" TRS balanced outputs, and two XLR mic ins that are great for VO recording. About $250 i think.

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The specialist at Guitar Center suggested I invest in an EXTERNAL sound card. What is a relatively good one without breaking the bank. The only requirements I have is that it will accept the 1/4" balanced TRS plugs from my LX4s and maybe even an onboard XLR for when I want to use the Voice-Over feature in FCP. TIA

You might want to consider the new AudioFire 4 from Echo. 2 Univeral XLR Mic & TRS Line/DI inputs, 2 more TRS line inputs, 4 TRS Outputs, SPDIF I/O, plus MIDI ... http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire4/index.php

Is there any benefit or drawbacks to the USB vs the Firewire units?

Is there any benefit or drawbacks to the USB vs the Firewire units?

These days in firewire vs usb for sound cards is pretty dead. What fits your needs go for it. For external audio cards, firewire or usb the biggest difference is in the drivers. Audio manufactures could use top quality parts in a device and then make lame drivers that either cause trouble or could actually affect the quality of the sound.

Example is (there getting much better) Motu. Their devices use to seem to always work well on macs but for lots of pc people there was nothing but trouble. The problem wasn’t firewire, usb, or the electronic parts in the device but the drivers to communicate. There was so much different pc hardware the drivers weren’t very supportive.

That said sure whenever you need to record 12 or 24 channels of audio simultaneously firewire has proven more reliable because of the bus architecture, but in this case no difference.

That said the Fast track pro performs quite well for its price. I’ve used one on a pc (not a mac) and it performs fairly stable. You mentioned doing voice over work, the pres in the fast track pro are not magical you get what you pay for but it does the job.

Thank you all for the input.

I ended up ordering the M-Audio Firewire Solo ($189) from B&H today.

That's the one I ordered as well...120 off of ebay...I had to ship it to the states though and some friends have shipped it to me in Thailand...should be here soon...can't wait to play around with it...love that it can do Pro Tools as well...though not Pro Tools DV

Paul

I have been following this thread bacause I'm in a similar situation. I have an LX4 system that I want to connect to a new iMac. But, am I correct, that the solutions suggested here all refer to a 2.1 setup? For 2.1, I already have a Griffin iMic that, I think, will give me a stereo output, and the ability to add voice-over at a sound quality equal to miniDV. What external devices are available for connecting the LX4 5.1 setup? Thanks.

Wow that's actually a really good question. I never even thought about the concept of trying to connect a 5.1 system.

Looking forward to seeing th responses on this as well.

Just a heads up if anyone is interested. There are currently NO firewire Mobile Audio Interfaces that currently work with the Mac Pro. I found this out after experiencing difficulty in having the Mac Pro recognize my M-Audio Firewire Solo. Apparently they changed the firewire architecture on the Mac Pros and M-Audio is working on releasing a driver that will allow the Firewire units to be used. Currently there isn't any known issues with comparable USB units.

I just found out the M-Audio firewire/Mac Pro thing myself. I am in the process of switching over to Mac, and just purchased a Mac Pro last week. I couldn't get it to recognize my Firewire 410, contacted support and they confirm, no workie with Mac Pro. No ETA on updated drivers.

Well, heck, they posted the drivers today! I'm in the process of downloading and will let you guys know about the Firewire 410.

Glen, driver is for the Firewire Solo too.

http://m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers

UPDATE: So far so good with the new driver. The Mac Pro recognizes it, and I got sound, which is further than I've been able to get.

What external devices are available for connecting the LX4 5.1 setup? Thanks.

I connect a Logitech 5.1 monitor system through a MOTU Traveller. When playing a DVD the controller takes in 2 audio channels (AES or TOSlink from the computer) and does the demuxing (surround mode). When working with FCP you have to assign the channels as you want them and the 6 individual inputs come from 6 analog outputs from the Traveller (direct mode).
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Another one to take a look at is the Presonus Inspire 1394 for about the same price, under $200 http://presonus.com/inspire1394.html

A. J., that MOTU Traveller looks like a solution, but for me it might be like buying a Ferrari to drive to the grocery store. I guess I'm looking to something like this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=437709&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

but that can be used with an Intel Mac. Do you think a device of this general quality would suffice? Or something between the MOTU and this?

A. J., that MOTU Traveller looks like a solution, but for me it might be like buying a Ferrari to drive to the grocery store. I guess I'm looking to something like this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=437709&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

but that can be used with an Intel Mac. Do you think a device of this general quality would suffice? Or something between the MOTU and this?

But that device DOES work with a mac, despite the lack of mac support listed. As do most USB audio devices that conform to the generic audio spec.

That's good news, Greg. So would a device that works with a pre-Intel Mac automatically also work with a new Intel Mac? My Microcenter had an M-audio device similar to the one I linked, like this:

http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=219349

in a USB enclosure. But the sales person informed me that it wouldn't work with the newer dual-core Macs.

Or if you can afford it, the RME Fireface 400 is a very good one too. Nice mic pres.

Mentioning again, the new Echo Audiofire 4 is worth a look at ~$275 or so. 4 analog inputs - 2 XLR universal mic/line/instrument with phantom and 2 1/4 line level. 4 1/4 analog outs. Excellent specs.

Jim,

The scary thing about the Creative is the driver. The Spec sheet says Windows. You need a box that works with the Apple CORE drivers (shipped with the Mac) or comes with a driver compatible with Os X. I'd check into that before I plunked my money down. OTOH it's only $50.

Anything that worked with an pre-Intel Mac SHOULD work with an Intel Mac but there are always some bugs with a major change in architecture.

That's good news, Greg. So would a device that works with a pre-Intel Mac automatically also work with a new Intel Mac? My Microcenter had an M-audio device similar to the one I linked, like this:

http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=219349

in a USB enclosure. But the sales person informed me that it wouldn't work with the newer dual-core Macs.


Well upon further review, I don't have the exact box you first linked. I have this one... (sorry, this picture was similar...)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=437801&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

but it's even less expensive at $39.99. It does work with both my dual G5 power mac, and my 15" MBP. Just goes to show even the manufacturers don't know everything. Or maybe they know, but don't want to support OSX for some reason. I think anything that works on a PPC should work on Intel, but then again that's where this thread started...

I don't have a MacPro yet, so can't say if it works on that hardware...