great videos !

http://videosan.web.fc2.com/HV10docs/index.html

Thanks for the link.

Footage is very impressive. As good as the XL H1 I think - except in low light scenes, but still good.

I'll qualify this post at the outset by saying that I am a rank amateur when it comes to all of this. That being said, I am fortunate enough to be the new owner of a Canon HV10 (recieved on Thursday from BH) and an Apple Mac Pro. If someone wants to tell me what to capture (how long, what settings, export to what format, etc. ) and provide a place to post it, I'd be willing.

Congrats, on the new HV10! And welcome to (H)DV Info Net.!

I got a chance to take the HV10 on a real shoot. The following are examples from the HV10.

Link # 1:
http://www.asvideoproductions.com/stuff/HV10_Samples/HV10_Sample001.wmv

Link # 2
http://www.asvideoproductions.com/stuff/HV10_Samples/HV10_Sample002.wmv

Unfortunately, everything on the camera was set to 'Auto'', as we had to take care of other 6 cameras first, but I am quite surprised with the quality of the video. It is as good as our other HDV cams. The one thing that I am not too fond of, is the overblown sky. I guess it's time to get an ND filter.

The above links are in WMV. So, if anyone wants any different formats, please let me know.

Best,
Aanarav

Hi chaps

just been experimenting with different ways of sharing content.
I have discovered Stage6 which is like you tube but HD - only catch is content has to be divX and up to 2GB (although 1080HD is now supported with 6.4)

Also there is Zudeo which is another similar thing but uses Bitorrent but much simplified and easy to use. The advantage to this is that you can use any any file format and any size.

Anyway here is a link to my first upload to Zudeo

http://www.zudeo.com/az-web/details/CVQ6WF6RFJCU3QCL6ADV7RJVREV2ERKA.html

Its just a short clip encoded at 1080p wm9 advanced codec at 12.5mbs

Cheers
Fergus

Here is the same clip without the colour grading and encoded as 1080 DivX at 6 mbs uploaded to stage6:

http://stage6.divx.com/members/318621/videos/1069267

Fantastic stuff!

Great footage! I'm so loving my HV10. Now that Christmas is passed and we are back from our trip, I plan on getting to know this camera of mine and will share some samples as well!

Thanks.

Hello everybody and a happy newyear :-) .
I decided to post a video from last evenings fireworks here in Amsterdam.
I dropped the audio cos i was talking to much and well who wants to hear my voice anyways. So i hope you like it a bit. The file was rendered in Sony Vegas 7 as HDV 1080-24P intermediate. (On a P4 3.0 ghz , 1gb memory.)
Cheers,
Edwin

http://www.filefactory.com/file/f3e276/


Hope it works.

Cool. What mode did you use? Auto or the Fireworks setting?

Just downloading the clip at the moment

I used the fireworks mode.
Please don't expect professional shooting from me, i am just an amateur.
Cheers
Edwin

http://www1.flyupload.com/get.php?fid=3592720

Nice footage.

Auto settings?

You are one brave dude to get your camera that close to your dog while he's kicking up all that sand!

this is from my previous post asking how to encode:

I like he camera so far. The images are great in light. The low light is good, but you can't use auto or it will appear grainy with lines. Some of the presets are better in low light. I am not used to having little control over a camera. It will take some time learning to dumb down a bit. The least professional video camera I have used is a canon gl1, so I am so spoiled by having the complete control of ENG cams. All my clips are on auto. I can't wait to show them off. This camera really is a bang for the buck. Definitley a great family or B camera!! Not pro at all, but a good camera.....

Great shots Mike and bravo on being brave enough to take your camera near sand. :)

What settings did you manually control in low light and which ones worked well as auto?

thanks,
elmer

see http://moriz.hosted.smooth.im/video/airport2_big.mpg

seems to be his first try - and he strongly needs a tripod ;-)

That's a very large file (1.5 GB)... do you have a smaller version?

1,490 mb !!!!!!!!

Even on my brand new 8mb broadband connection that is coming up as a 2 hour 12 minute download !!!

How long is the footage ?

How long is the footage ?

around 8 minutes

around 8 minutes

if you open the url within VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/, freeware) you can watch while downloading and quit if you don't like it.

Hi All,

having read the promising specs over and over again, and knowing that it'll take a while until we can actually hold the HV20, I thought it couldn't hurt to search and get a better picture of the externals of this promising cam.

And yes, at the German Canon site I found some higher-res images, for a closer look at the HV20:

http://www3.canon.de/pro/vid/dig/hv_20/foto_hv_20

This machine looks good! (Although I still have to get used to the 'double-body' design) It even seems many of the buttons are actually made of some alloy, not plastic.

I'm also glad they did not implement the blue-lit HDV logo the HV10 has (or could that be desabled).

I think that in the looks-department, Canon beats Panasonic and Sony hands down. Anyone? :)

I'm also glad they did not implement the blue-lit HDV logo the HV10 has (or could that be desabled).


Actually I like the Blue-Lit HDV logo. However, yes, you can disable it if you so desire.

Well everyone his or her preference, of course. I don't own an HV10, so who knows what I would've done... but I guess I would save the (milli-)amps. :)
Thanks, Pieter

I finally got hv10 yesterday.. i tested few indoor shot.
is there any free hosting where i can upload more than 80MB
ftp://211.254.172.143/

hi jung,
the site ask for user id and password...

hv10 indoor footage
i have a same angle shot of hc1 too...amazingly both video quality looks same
i would say hv10 is 5% better than hc1
hv10 manual exposure was horrible... i have to configurate every single shot

http://www.camuser.co.kr/cam_vm/VID_HDV_MOV/2007/02/hv102.wmv

I finally got hv10 yesterday.. i tested few indoor shot.
is there any free hosting where i can upload more than 80MB
ftp://211.254.172.143/

http://tv.isg.si/ is the best free video hostin so far...
after creating account and upload via FTP you must post the content for tv.isg.si "television program" otherwise they will remove your account.

like this:
http://tv.isg.si/site/trial_video_in_full_hdv

For the life of me I can't find those clips anymore. I know the Canon website had HV10 clips posted that were quite impressive. I'm thinking they may do the same with the HV20.

Does anyone have that link or are those clips gone?

It's a sticky at the top of this forum: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=80457

Nice Chris, thanks. Couldn't find those guys no matter how I searched the site.

http://blip.tv/file/get/TheCreativeLife-TheNokiaN93iIn720HD465.mov


I guess it's primarily because I've moved up to the HV10 from an old Canon camcorder, rather than down from a high-end HD video camera - but to me the HV10 produces amazing results! This Macro footage poses wonderful subtle tones and huge scoops of detail, it's the perfect camera for this kind of 'close up' product shot.

I'm heading out to Hong Kong in a few weeks and I'm wondering if I should pick up an HV20, but will it really be that much better than what the HV10 can produce?

I guess it's primarily because I've moved up to the HV10 from an old Canon camcorder, rather than down from a high-end HD video camera - but to me the HV10 produces amazing results! This Macro footage poses wonderful subtle tones and huge scoops of detail, it's the perfect camera for this kind of 'close up' product shot.


James,
Very beautiful footage. Very sharp too. What worries me are those interlace artifacts whenever there's movement - those are not so nice... I wonder if they'd go away when shooting at 30F?

Dino

but to me the HV10 produces amazing results!

HV10 and amazing results....you better believe it! I love my Hv10 too!

Image quality wise I don't think you'll see much difference between the 10 and 20 in daylight/brightlight recordings. In lowlight situations is were you will see the difference from what I gather.

Anyway, I'll be very happy with my HV10 for some time to come.

Thanks for another great looking vid.

btw, what's with the Rally Racing game footage at the end? Did that sneak in there on ya? :)

HV20 raw 24p (60i) sample (not mine!) without with the cine preset - just automatic:

http://www.youngsterproduction.com/v...hv20%20raw.m2t

If anyone can tell me how to render as true 24p in vegas I would appreciate it
(remove the 2:3 pulldown)

The interlacing is because of standard pulldown added to the 24p for 1080i standards compatibility.
What will be the case with 25p PAL raw footage? Will that show interlacing? Will VLC be able to play it as true 25p?

Hmmm... the link doesn't seem to work.

I figured out the correct link:

http://www.youngsterproduction.com/videos/hv20%20raw.m2t

left: HC7
right: HV20

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle/articles/0702/23/news032_3.html

Thanks for this. But what I'd really like is a side-by-side comparison of some raw video.

Although I'm not a big believer in derterming quality soley by still grabs, the HV20 is obviously sharper in those pictures.

Although I'm not a big believer in derterming quality soley by still grabs, the HV20 is obviously sharper in those pictures.

I totally agree. Having said that, the low light comparison (the pic with the snooker table) was a lot clearer on the HV20. The HC7 was very noisy. I'd love to see the original video of those caps.

Although I returned both the HC7 and the HV20, my vote
would definitely go to the HV20.

The HV20's pictures(video or still photo) had a lot less noise
when compared side-by-side in low-light situations. The room
where I did the comparison only had one 100W bulb.

http://447productions.com/HV20_24p_1920x1080.mov (115mb)

here it is.... before posting this link, I downloaded it from the above link onto my 13" Macbook, which is alot smaller then the "Actual" size of the QT movie. It looked alot more pixelated the the same QT file on my desktop, even at that size.

After 8 minutes or so it was downloaded, and I clicked on the screen which the movie on it and right clicked to get a small dropdown window which gave me a few options. I selected "SAVE AS QUICKTIME MOVIE" onto my desktop and when I double clicked the newly saved movie, everything was exactly as the original file that I uploaded. And of course for those with a smaller screen, the best option is under the Quicktime menu, View as "Half Size." From there, I suppose DVI out to a larger 1080 HDTV? Hope this helps.

Taylor,
...very good PF24 example. Thanks for posting. Alan

Wow! Have you noticed how many people are viewing this corner of the DV Info right now, 47 at the time of posting!

I guess it must be all the interest in the HV20

Anyway, here is another sample from the HV10

http://blip.tv/file/get/TheCreativeLife-CanonHV10LowLightAndDigitalZoom868.m4v

http://447productions.com/HV20_24p_1920x1080.mov (115mb)

here it is....

Very cool !!!! Amazing quality!
Do you have a shot taken with fully open aperture? I'd really like to know how shallow a depth of field is possible with the HV20.
Best,
Dino

haven't done any shots where i'm controlling aperture, but this clip i shot shows some pretty good DOF at least when zoomed in a bit

http://file.meyersproduction.com/hv20/hv20%20test-barton-H.264%20Full%20HD%206k.mov

What are the best settings for low light situations? Thanks!

Nice job, Taylor. I like how the cam is handling the hotspot on the house/duplex on the right side of the frame.

There's an interesting quality to the progressive look of this material. It's detailed, but very smooth. No edge enhancement that I can discern.

I can't believe this is possible now in a $1K cam.

Ridiculous. :)

I made a short film (2min) and sequenced in both HDV and DVCPRO HD. Made in Compressor using H.264 LAN tweaked. The difs aren't noticeable to me colorwise.

One odd thing was having to change the aspect ratio of the photos to match the look after copying the HDV sequence into the DVCPRO HD sequence.

It was shot in crappy light, I believe shutter speed of 30. There's a bit of gain, but wonder what I can do to make colors more vibrant.

Music by Loomis, Beauty by Jennifer

http://elmerlang.com/I'llBeLovingYou2.html

http://elmerlang.com/I'llBeLovingYou2_DVCPRO_HD.html