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Brad Vaughan March 28th, 2007, 04:44 PM I just have to say...I love your work man!
Good stuff. To get that sun shot, did you dial back the exposure using the dial to get the black background?
Very neat.
Doug Thome March 28th, 2007, 06:07 PM I can't view it on my Vista w/qtpro...apple says its intermediate codec and looks like thats mac only? Help....
Justin Avery March 28th, 2007, 06:37 PM Great footage, yet again.
I'm counting down the days before I buy the HV10 for my Round the World adventure, need to buy it within 30 days of travel to get it duty and GST free!
I'm interested to hear what settings were used also, were you using any filters for this shot?
Great detail considering you were using digital zoom as well.
Jacob Carter March 28th, 2007, 09:13 PM Here is a very short sample clip of a bird in a pine tree I shot the other day.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=998OGGI2
As you can tell, I am not even close to going pro. :)
The video was shot in 1440X1080i, captured and cut with PP2.0 then rendered.
I think the bird is a little overexposed, which I could have fixed in the camera settings.
John Godden March 28th, 2007, 09:20 PM Here is a very short sample clip of a bird in a pine tree I shot the other day.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=998OGGI2
As you can tell, I am not even close to going pro. :)
The video was shot in 1440X1080i, captured and cut with PP2.0 then rendered.
I think the bird is a little overexposed, which I could have fixed in the camera settings.
Jacob
I can't seem to download the file with Mozilla. ???
Jacob Carter March 28th, 2007, 09:27 PM Jacob
I can't seem to download the file with Mozilla. ???
Hmmm. I am not sure why not.
I am using firefox and I can download it.
Maybe I can try to host it up somewhere else.
Jacob Carter March 28th, 2007, 10:00 PM Try this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/23283389/Birds.m2t.html
I hope this works.
Robert Batta March 29th, 2007, 03:34 AM nice footage but a little bit overexposed
use auto settings ?
Jacob Carter March 29th, 2007, 07:39 AM nice footage but a little bit overexposed
use auto settings ?
Yes. That was shot in P mode, full auto.
Rich Dykmans March 29th, 2007, 08:37 AM You can't improve color by transcoding HDV to another codec but the color will hold up better when you do CC later. If you want your HDV colors to "pop" learn the 3 way color corrector in FCP (which I know you're using) or better yet invest in the colorista plugin from Magic Bullet. It works wonders on HDV. I rarely had to do much CC'ing on my HVX200 DVCPro footage but a 1 chip just doesn't capture color like a good 3 chip cam obviously. HV10 footage once tweaked intercuts fairly well with DVCPro.
Randall E. Drapeau March 29th, 2007, 05:32 PM I really wanted to get the Panny SD1.
I prefer SD cards to HDD and most certainly, tape. However, editing is still a problem and it seems that HDV is ahead of AVCHD in terms of picture quality.
So, yesterday morning I headed over to Yodobashi Camera in Shinjuku (Tokyo) and picked up the Canon HV20. It helped that my work place is practically next door.
Fortunately, I had some time in the afternoon so I charged up the battery and took it out into the streets of Nishi-Shinjuku and started shooting random stuff. I brought my monopod along and that helped reduce "the shakes."
I also shot some stuff later that night (around 10 p.m.).
I forgot to ask the guy at the store to see if he could get me a copy of the English manual (I have the English version on my computer) so, regretfully, all the footage was shot in full auto.
I'll let you be the judge. As I'm typing this it's uploading to RapidShare.com -- a one minute video at about 65 MB. My computer is a single core P4 2.8 gHz with a gig of ram. It plays the file fine in WMV. I had to dumb it down a little to get it to fit the RS 100 MB limit.
It does seem like it's 1440x1080 instead of 1920x1080. Must have made a wrong turn somewhere. Still, I have to say, I'm stoked. I love the high resolution. The colors seem a bit soft but not too bad. There's some blurring but I'm 99.9% sure this is pilot error.
This is the first time I've shot, edited and encoded HDV. All in all, not bad for a first effort, I think. I use Vegas 7.0 and, keeping it simple, it's just about as easy to edit HDV as regular DV. Pleasantly surprised by that. No other software involved -- just Vegas right out of the box.
This cam cost me 107,300 yen out the door so I guess that's around a 1000 USD. With about 25,000 yen added to the "Points Card" I was able to get an extra battery and an HDV tape and still have points left over.
Now, this isn't the best example I've seen of what this little cam can do, but I'm a happy camper. I figure with a little more study I can start shooting in the 24p mode and I'm really looking forward to seeing how that looks. I think this camera has a lot of potential.
While I hope this is my last tape-based camera, I'm really glad I bought it.
I couldn't help but include some photos of the "unpacking" ritual complete with a camera girl :)
OK, here's the link to the vid:
http://rapidshare.com/files/23418440/Shinjuku2.wmv.html
Ken Ross March 29th, 2007, 08:14 PM Randall, looks very nice, but when I play it on WMP or MP Classic, it seems the footage is vertically squished a bit. Somehow the aspect ratio just looks a bit off. Any ideas?
Robert Hicks March 29th, 2007, 08:32 PM This is amazingly clear footage. Thank you very much for posting.
I do agree with Ken. It's just a tad squished when using windows media player.
Got any more? :)
Glen Kim March 29th, 2007, 11:13 PM It'd be great if you could get some clips of the cherry blossoms! Shinjuku Gyoen is beautiful this time of year!
Actually, I think Tokyo is a great city to shoot video. There are lots of things going on both during the day and at night.
I'm hoping to go to Tokyo Disneyland this month and get some HV20 clips. I'll try to post good ones. :)
Elmer Lang March 30th, 2007, 10:20 AM Thanks for the tip.
The HV10's fun, of course, now I want to sell my HV10 and get the HV20. Better lowlight, mic input, yadda yadda. I hope to find a buyer soon, it's only got ~10 hours on the heads. Maybe Ebay's the place.
Elmer Lang March 31st, 2007, 02:44 PM Actually, I think it's ~15 hours on the heads.
Wes Vasher March 31st, 2007, 10:09 PM I've included the source .m2t file as well as a 960x540 H264 movie which I compressed at 75% quality. On the .mov file, I removed the pull down in AE, used the Magic Bullet deartifactor, resized and adjusted the levels a little bit.
Shot it at either F1.8 or F2.0.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/08a5ad/
David Garvin March 31st, 2007, 11:04 PM I think the .m2t looks great!
Wes Vasher April 1st, 2007, 08:53 AM Thanks David, here's another clip of a cat in front of a window.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/4a878b/
Salah Baker April 1st, 2007, 04:12 PM Its uploading so give it time...
http://www.salatar.com/rainyday/H264_72024p.mov (112 Mb)
http://www.salatar.com/rainyday/Rainy_Day_WindowsMedia - HD 72024p.wmv (193 Mb)
Not a Pro shot just handheld...
Huge story behind it but you'll get the Jist...
Brad Vaughan April 1st, 2007, 06:36 PM For some reason the Quicktime movie isn't recognized by my Quicktime installation. Do I need a special codec to view it?
And the wmv version stops playing at about 33 secs into it.
Salah Baker April 1st, 2007, 07:35 PM Its uploading so give it time...
it just got done on both accounts
and its H264 mov
Alan Dunkel April 1st, 2007, 10:35 PM ..very creative for 12X12. Really nice light and color on the flowers. I'm thinking of getting a bogen monopod and video head for my HV20 as though haven't used one much before, it is just so portable might try to ditch the tripod.
Regards, Alan
Brad Vaughan April 1st, 2007, 11:06 PM yep got it.
Maybe next time wait til they are uploaded b4 you post the links. That way we will know when they are ready on our end and we won't waste the time d/loading unfinished files.
Salah Baker April 2nd, 2007, 04:19 AM I wasnt expecting to get back to computer for a few more weeks ..
But I did here are a few grabs ( you can see me under said 12x12 carport)
Randall E. Drapeau April 2nd, 2007, 10:35 AM A couple of days ago I posted a link to some footage taken in Shinjuku (Tokyo). Glen Kim suggested I get over to Shinjuku Gyoen to get some footage of the cherry blossoms as they are now in full bloom (good idea, Glen!).
Well, someone told me that the place would be closed by the time I got off work but I heard about another place that, according to my source, was even better.
When I got there, I thought I'd made a wrong turn and ended up at Disneyland -- the line was looooong. But I persevered and finally got to the entrance. It was along a river and very narrow and people were packed in like sardines. I didn't think there would be enough space to set up my tripod.
Japanese people really take their cherry blossom viewing seriously!
Across the street was Yasukuni and it looked like something was going on over there so I decided to check it out. Turned out to be a mini-festival that one might compare to a county fair in the U.S.
I managed to get a little footage there before it started to rain. No matter, I can only upload about a minute's worth of HD video anyway, so here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/23992389/Shinjuku_2.wmv.html
This was taken with the HV20 and this time I encoded it a bit differently and it didn't come out "squished" like before.
I know I started out shooting in the "night" mode and I can't recall right now if I changed it. It does appear the shutter speed needs to be increased to avoid the blurring. That may sound elementary to most people but I've never shot before in anything other than full auto! This camera is going to make me change my ways.
Theoretically, you need a 3.0 gHz machine to view this video in WMV. Mine's 2.8 gHz and it plays just fine.
PS - I love this friggin' camera!
Eric Gorski April 2nd, 2007, 11:59 PM wow, wes. those clips are fantastic.
seeing this camera at work in a softly lit environment really shows off what its capable of. its nice to see that the transition between the bright window and the shadowy interior is smooth and without a harsh digital fringing.. plus the interior shadows still contain a nice amount of detail without everything else being too blown out. nice dynamic range i must say.
not to mention the detail is excellent. that cat's fur.. so soft..
Wes Vasher April 3rd, 2007, 08:27 PM Thanks Eric! The color, image detail, manual controls continue to impress me. The dynamic range is better than what I'm used to with my old Sony DV camera so I'm happy with that as well.
Daymon Hoffman April 4th, 2007, 12:31 AM ggrrr! I"m so jealous. Really sick of being the last at everything here down under. really wish companies would stop reaming us (both in price and release dates) when it comes to new releases. ARGH!
I... WANT ONE!
:)
Daymon Hoffman April 4th, 2007, 12:55 AM Thanks for the samples! Gosh i'm getting really angry at company's atm. Sick of getting shafted here in Australia. We're the last to get anything and we pay extreme dollar for that privelage! :(
Still not on Canon's AU website. *sigh*
Wes Vasher April 4th, 2007, 07:19 AM Nothing fantastic or limit pushing. Preview images of the clips are here (http://www.vasher.com/v4/v4_more.php?id=98_0_3_0_M4), the stove and cat clips are new.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/357866/
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3d100b/
Some new frame grabs and digital stills here...
Flickr gallery (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wesvasher/sets/72157600037408740/)
Brad Vaughan April 4th, 2007, 09:50 AM Alright, finally got the clip after jumping thru several hoops at filefactory (guess that's the price we pay for free hosting)...
The HV20 sure produces a nice clean crisp image. Nice stuff.
&
The photos (especially the Cat) are simpy amazing!
Randall E. Drapeau April 4th, 2007, 10:03 AM Hey Daymon,
Lot of Aussies over here. Know any who could send you one? The box really isn't all the big.
OTOH, it might be worth the wait since you'll be getting the PAL version -- lucky you!
I remember when folks were complaining in the U.S. that Panasonic was holding back all the good stuff. Some "interesting" theories started floating around.
Anyway, I don't think you'll have too long to wait and I believe you will be very happy with this camera.
Oh, and you have Rode just next door. I'm going to have to jump through some hoops to get my Video Mic.
Happy shooting :)
Taj Jackson April 4th, 2007, 02:38 PM Thanks Wes. Keep up the great work!!!
Mike Horrigan April 4th, 2007, 03:12 PM Here's a short clip of a couple of ducks and some flowers.
Miserable day though...
http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/duck.avi
100MB file.
Mike
Glen Kim April 4th, 2007, 07:12 PM The subject matter is really good in those shots! The "hawker stalls" in Japan are very colorful and allow for a wide range of colors when shooting. (The food also looked really good!;)) What settings did you use btw?
Yes, the video was somewhat "squished" but that is very easily fixed when playing back with VLC player.
I think the unfortunate thing is that since the weather has been so cloudy, you couldn't capture the cherry blossoms in full daylight. Perhaps some HV20 owners in Washington D.C. could get some video??? :)
Dennis Vogel April 4th, 2007, 08:12 PM What codec was used for this? It's an AVI file but it doesn't appear to be DV. AVIcodec doesn't know what codec was used. It reports 4CC as "CFHD" but says "Unknown" for the codec name.
Good luck.
Dennis
Randall E. Drapeau April 5th, 2007, 09:33 AM Glen,
Thanks for your comments. My town has quite a few cherry trees and there are still a lot of blossoms although I think they're a little past their prime and a lot have blown to the ground. Still, if it's decent tomorrow, I may try to get some footage of the what's left. If not, we may indeed have to rely on an HV20 owner in Washington, DC :)
The Shinjuku footage came out squished but the food stall footage was okay. I think I put the original footage into Vegas incorrectly. Not to toot my own horn, but I thought those colors were great. Actually, it was all the camera's doing since I just had it set on Night mode.
Tomorrow I'd like to really get into the manual settings and even try out the 24p. I think I need to up the shutter speed because I am getting too much blur.
It does seem to me that these high def, 16:9 cameras need a tripod or at least a monopod. A little moving around doesn't seem too bad in standard def 4:3 but these cams show everything. I wonder if Average Joe Shooter is going to be happy about this?
Bryan Wolf April 5th, 2007, 11:05 AM Pretty sure it's cineform.
Mark Patrick Anderson April 5th, 2007, 11:49 AM Besides footage of Laguna Beach shot with HV20 that I've seen, I like yours the best. My HV20 arrives today and I can't wait to put it through the motions.....
Mike Horrigan April 5th, 2007, 11:50 AM It was an "export movie" from Premiere Pro 1.5.
Cineform HDV
Steve Szudzik April 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM I'm still working on familiarizing myself with the new HV20, but saw some other folks putting up some frame grabs and figured I'd join in the fun.
There is one for a soccer ball on there which I liked. No, not going to win any awards for it, but I think it does a good job of showing off the color capabilities. That was shot in full auto, zoomed in abou 8x or so from about 10 feet. Very accurate colors for sure.
http://www.szudzik.net/caps/HV20/
The one of my dog was taken inside under very low light (60 watt bulb). The rest pretty much taken outside in "Portrait" mode under very cloudy skies.
--Steve
Daymon Hoffman April 7th, 2007, 08:52 PM Thanks Steve always good to see more samples!
Joe Busch April 7th, 2007, 09:21 PM http://www.lousyheros.com/nwps3.wmv
Was a cool angle though, this was a tie-breaker 1 on 1
Camera only got hit once, I got hit... a lot...
got 3-4 more videos to work with... lots of footage...
Relevance being that this was a Canon HV10... maybe the size of the camera helped avoid getting hit...
James Hooey April 7th, 2007, 11:25 PM Good stuff! Hard to believe your camera made it through everything being as you were directly in the line of fire for a lot of that exchange. How did it handle being hit the one time?
Joe Busch April 8th, 2007, 02:31 AM Oh just fine, it's been hit multiple times w/o issue... paintballs leave the gun at 280-300 fps (roughly 200 mph) but slow down very fast... as you can only get 125-140 ft out of a level shot. Either way as you can see in the video, they're going pretty fast ;)
Only problem I had w/ the camera all day was my cheapo $8 ebay battery decided not to work properly, the copper connectors got pushed in somehow and so it wouldn't make a solid connection, I popped in my $40 Impact battery and it was flawless... yet my other Ebay battery was great before that...
Oh well :)
Dave Blackhurst April 8th, 2007, 02:32 AM Cool footage, those incoming rounds almost look "3-D" here - made me want to jump outta da way!
DB>)
Fergus Anderson April 8th, 2007, 04:12 AM Thanks Steve - great stuff
Were these frame grabs from 60i or 24p?
Steve Szudzik April 8th, 2007, 09:41 AM These were from 60i. I have done a few small clips with 24p, but haven't gone through removing the pull down yet. Ok, honestly I haven't stopped to figure out what I need to do for that yet. I have Vegas setup to automatically remove pulldown (in the preferences checkbox list), but had not noticed any major differences.
I had done a few small 24p clips ealier and had a lot of jitter when panning. Somebody in the forum had said that the panning rate has to be significantly slower when shooting 24p. So I tried that and indeed had much better success. I was probably moving much slower during the pan than I had to but it came out very well.
--Steve
Gabriel Yeager April 8th, 2007, 10:05 AM That was some cool footage! I have seen the damage that paintball can do to people -- ouch!
I liked the angle alot. It was cool being able to see the balls fly everywhere.
~Gabriel
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