View Full Version : pricing on full kit ....
Dean Harrington September 2nd, 2006, 05:02 PM In the FAQ:"Price & Availability
The SI-1920HDVR is priced below $20k and will be available for delivery in Q3 2006."
I assume you've got a price in mind for the camera with the seagate drives and battery power. Any idea what that would be?
Jason Rodriguez September 2nd, 2006, 10:41 PM We're working on final pricing, but it's still in the $20K ball-park range for the full camera body product that we were showing at NAB.
Dean Harrington September 2nd, 2006, 11:29 PM Can't wait to see what you've come up with!
Joe Carney September 3rd, 2006, 02:23 PM Will the full kit price include Lens? I thought that was posted in the past, just wondering if that is still the case.
Dean Harrington September 3rd, 2006, 06:06 PM two fujinon C mount lenses are to be included with the camera.
Joe Carney September 5th, 2006, 10:18 AM Also, if you use a seperate PC for editing then the one you capture wth, another 1499.00 for the Cineform raw codec (Prospect HD).
Carlos Osterling September 8th, 2006, 08:10 AM I tried to contact Silicon Imaging in two occasions (to the email they show on their website), and I got no response. It's sad because this looks like a good camera to buy. But, if I am going to send them my money, I would like some kind of customer care.
Carlos Osterling September 9th, 2006, 01:45 AM Thanks Jason for your fast response. I had tried to contact SI before, but it seems that I was going in the wrong direction. Jason gave me his and Steve's email and I hope we can do business in the near future.
Jason Rodriguez September 9th, 2006, 06:45 PM No Problem :)
Joe Carney September 10th, 2006, 07:57 PM Are they any problems with the delivery of the Altasens chip? Also, if it's alright to ask, which model are they using?
Thanks in advance
Carlos Osterling September 10th, 2006, 11:59 PM Will this camera be available this year? I know you don't want to set dates, but I need to make a decision... This seems like a great camera, but how long could it take? Thanks guys.
Jason Rodriguez September 11th, 2006, 10:43 AM Yes, definitely this calendar year.
Tyson Perkins November 17th, 2006, 07:20 PM Is this still going to be delivered in this caleder year?
Jason Rodriguez November 18th, 2006, 02:36 AM Still the plan for the Mini . . . although the full-body SI-2K has been scheduled for January release . . . so yes, the plan is to ship the Mini this calendar year.
Tyson Perkins November 18th, 2006, 03:19 AM Im still tossing up between the mini with a good lense or the DVR with stock lense - could any of you guys convince which one would be a better go for an indie filmaker like myself, who is editing on a mac?
Tyson Perkins November 18th, 2006, 08:25 AM And also what do we really need prospect HD - if we have alot of time to edit and do not the added convience for 2000?
Will the final price on the full kit be 20,000 guaranteed?
David Newman November 18th, 2006, 10:36 AM And also what do we really need prospect HD - if we have alot of time to edit and do not the added convience for 2000?
Prospect HD (actually Prospect 2K which SI-2K bundles) offers much more than performance. The integrated look system will work much better with the full CineForm post tools, including the curves and color matrix management. This will give you control overall the "raw" processing through out the editing process, effectively a high dynamic range workflow whenever you need. The alternative is to "cook" the look into another file format and edit that, there is significant flexibility loss. Original Prospect 2K was going to come as standard with the camera, yet there was a valid argument that multiple camera shoots may only need one Prospect 2K license. Camera and workflow are designed to work together, it will be best to have a Prospect 2K license.
Steve Nordhauser November 18th, 2006, 10:49 AM The pricing of our cameras is $12.5K for the SI-2K Mini in c mount, $13.5K with PL mount, $20K for the SI-2K c mount, $21K for the PL mount. Our edit suite (Cineform Prospect 2K with Adobe Premiere) is $2K when purchased with a camera.
The Mini includes the SiliconDVR software and AC power supply. The SI-2K includes the full recording camera, 7" touchscreen viewfinder and arm, and a shipping case (SiliconDVR is built in).
On the question of bundled vs unbundled, our original camera shown at NAB was a 1080p camera. Since many people wanted the lenses unbundled anyway, when we went to a full 2K, we chose to avoid a price increase by unbundling the lenses. We still sell them separately ($400-$500 each) for those who want them. Many people already had Prospect HD and Premiere so they became separate also. (Prospect 2K is much more expensive than HD). We did create the edit bundle with both Prospect 2K and Premiere that is MUCH less than the standard prices, only for our customers.
Steve
Don Donatello November 18th, 2006, 11:51 AM "still tossing up between the mini with a good lense or the DVR with stock lense "
i think it depends on your projects ... have you heard of DV rack ? - over 1394 cable records from DV/HDV/HVX camera to laptop ... it works excellent interiors ... and it works excellent if you have control of exteriors = permit , set up tent for laptop etc ...
without a tent i just can't see the Laptop screen on exteriors , have to constantly be careful of cable between lap & camera - just too much trouble to set up for run-n-gun type shooting ...
IMO with the SI 2k DVR you have the BEST of both worlds .. you have a camera that you can run-n-gun , less problems exteriors and at any time you can use it as a mini ... but if you're just doing interior interviews or SFX shoots on a stage then mini only is good choice ..
Thomas English November 18th, 2006, 12:25 PM Tyson, I think you should definately by the full DVR solution and some cheap lenses.
Remember you can always hire in top glass at a moments notice if the job requires it but you will not be able to get a DVR on hire.
Tyson Perkins November 18th, 2006, 03:33 PM So how much am i looking at with all inc. some cheap glass?
Jason Rodriguez November 20th, 2006, 04:24 PM Well, depends on what you want to get for "cheap" glass.
I know you can purchase a single Optar prime lens for around $2K. So you could have two optimal focal lengths in your kit for around $4K.
There's the Fujinon C-mount lenses which are an option, but they do not have the same ergonomics as the Optars. They run around $350 a piece.
Of cousre there's always used 16mm and S16 zooms. You can get a good Cooke or Zeiss for around $2-4K. That's usually a great option as well.
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