View Full Version : hc-3 drops frames with vegas, but pani-gs300 does not


Richard Yium
August 9th, 2006, 09:23 AM
I exported a couple times an 8 year old tape with vegas, and both times
with the hc-3, it said it dropped 150 frames, but when I used the gs300 to
export to the computer it does it cleanly with no dropped frames.

Should I be concerned?

Thanks

Tommy Haupfear
August 9th, 2006, 03:14 PM
It could just be a difference of tape alignment between the two cams. How is the HC3 with transferring its own footage over firewire to your computer?

Richard Yium
August 9th, 2006, 03:33 PM
It could just be a difference of tape alignment between the two cams. How is the HC3 with transferring its own footage over firewire to your computer?

I don't have that much footage shot yet with the hc-3.
But the few minutes I have downloaded is fine so far.

I shot the original footage with a jvc and borrowed the gs300 from a coworker to run a test.

Tommy Haupfear
August 9th, 2006, 04:06 PM
I've seen certain cams not wanting to properly play another cam's tapes even though they both might be MiniDV format. This may be one of those scenarios in which case you might want to get a cheap MiniDV cam to transfer but your HC3 sounds fine to me.

I have the A1U but I'm not going to use it to play my massive library of SD MiniDV tapes. I've been looking for a SD cam on eBay with something like a broke lens but a working deck for under $100.

Richard Yium
August 10th, 2006, 07:45 AM
Well, I have a canon zr20 that eats tapes, so I have to use the hc-3 to download. I'm on my goal to transfer all my tapes to dvd to I don't have
to watch the tapes....

Tommy Haupfear
August 10th, 2006, 07:46 PM
Seems like we have similar goals. Are you going to look for another cheap cam for transfer?

Richard Yium
August 13th, 2006, 01:16 PM
I don't know yet.
I only have 18 more tapes to go.....

Tommy Haupfear
August 13th, 2006, 02:29 PM
I'm looking at about 50 tapes but luckily I want a decent RCA MiniDV cam on eBay for $77 yesterday. Fingers crossed.

Tommy Haupfear
August 17th, 2006, 11:35 AM
My recently acquired RCA CC9370 works flawlessly for capturing and transfer over firewire. I even picked up a souped up battery at Sears on ultra clearance.

Now I just need someone to transfer 50 hours of footage to DVD. Any takers? :)

Heath McKnight
August 18th, 2006, 08:04 AM
Consider using a DI (Direct/Digital Intermediate), that may help. Try www.cineform.com for more.

heath

Richard Yium
August 18th, 2006, 10:03 AM
My recently acquired RCA CC9370 works flawlessly for capturing and transfer over firewire. I even picked up a souped up battery at Sears on ultra clearance.

Now I just need someone to transfer 50 hours of footage to DVD. Any takers? :)


Be sure to create labels for your dvd discs instead of using a sharpie....:p

Alex Thames
August 18th, 2006, 11:19 AM
Really? Why is that? I've always used Sharpie.

Heath McKnight
August 18th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Ditto.

hwm

Tommy Haupfear
August 18th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Even a CD Marker? Does that effect archival life?

Richard Yium
August 18th, 2006, 09:21 PM
I'm sorry, I just made a joke to spend more time creating a label
than a few seconds with a sharpie since you had 50 hours of tape
which I assume would be 50 dvds.....

I spend extra time by grabbing a frame from the footage and use
it for the background of the label to make it more interesting.

That's just what I'm doing.

Tommy Haupfear
August 19th, 2006, 07:43 AM
I thought you were going to pull some off-the-wall technical term out like "laser rot" from the use of a permanent marker. You got me on that one. :)

Are you going with adhesive labels or Lightscribe?

Heath McKnight
August 19th, 2006, 08:02 AM
I think we're WAYYYYY off topic now. Let's talk about how the HC3 drops frames in Vegas, which might be happening because it's native m2t vs. a DI.

heath

Tommy Haupfear
August 19th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Let's talk about how the HC3 drops frames in Vegas, which might be happening because it's native m2t vs. a DI.

Will that even come into play with the tapes being eight years old and most likely SD material?

Richard, have you used another program to do the export? If you have XP you could try Windows Movie Maker.

Heath McKnight
August 19th, 2006, 09:47 AM
Whoops, I mis-read that part, sorry!

heath

Richard Yium
August 19th, 2006, 11:37 AM
I thought you were going to pull some off-the-wall technical term out like "laser rot" from the use of a permanent marker. You got me on that one. :)

Are you going with adhesive labels or Lightscribe?

Adhesive labels. I don't have a lightscribe burner.

Richard Yium
August 19th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Will that even come into play with the tapes being eight years old and most likely SD material?

Richard, have you used another program to do the export? If you have XP you could try Windows Movie Maker.

I have xp, but I figure why bother with Movie maker.

I'll give it a test run with movie maker when I get a chance,
although I've burned my dvd using the import from the gs300 already.