I just uploaded my film noir short "Don't Speak" to YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RsN0CTTpVo


I'd like any opinions on the lighting. Overall I'm very proud of the look we were able to achieve.

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated (lighting and overall movie)

Thanks,

-Kris

Nicely done...very distinct looks for each invironment. Nice in teraction of lights in the hallway...like the launch bays from the original battlestar galactica. last scene, just outlines...very cool. Well acted too.

I just uploaded my film noir short "Don't Speak" to YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RsN0CTTpVo


I'd like any opinions on the lighting. Overall I'm very proud of the look we were able to achieve.

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated (lighting and overall movie)

Thanks,

-Kris


I absolutely loved the shot showing the lead's rage when he discovers his girlfriend's body. That great lighting effect coupled with a shift to black and white. Excellent stuff.

Wow thanks.

Anyone else?

Could you post some of these lighting setups in this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=66451

Wow that looked great. I loved the switch from color to black and white. I also thought the look you got from your lighting really added so much to the final look.

Thanks,

I’ve got a lot of good feed back on the color to B&W transition.

Did you guys notice the color effect at 42sec. The girl is the only thing in color, but as the guy crawls onto the bed everything fades into color. It is a subtle effect, but it is one of my favorites.

-Kris

We done mate. Great use of lighting design. Like mentioned in early post I too am really interesting on the details of how you got this result. Also what Camera was it shot on?

You created something really atmospheric here. Expland on your process and experience for us other dudes who want to come up to the mark.

Congratulations once again.

That was hot man! I've bookmarked it into my favorites. The contrasts and techniques were awesome.

Actually felt bad for dude. That Bi*#@.

I'm big on story so it's killing me...WHY DID SHE DO IT? And was it worth three of their men dying for.

Great job.

Any chance on you posting you presets and post techniques?

Here is some general info on how we worked. I'll go into some scene specific detail latter.

We shot using an FX1 with factory defaults. While setting up lights we would always set up the scene with the camera in black and white and then we filmed in color. We shot in color for a couple of reasons.

1. I didn’t know how many color element I was going to leave in the B&W shots.

2. I could then choose which color channel was the best. Green usually had the least noise while blue had the most. Red sometimes had the best contrast depending on the location.

Our lighting set up was… crap in terms of equipment quality. We used one theater spot light with barn doors. It had to be duck taped to keep in from pointing at the ground. We used two floor painters’ lights, and in a couple scenes we used a battery powered camera light that we held by hand.

So, as far as equipment goes, it was nothing special, and I’m glad. Too often we worry about our equipment. Having limitations sometimes brings about the most creativity.

For the most part we either used the standard three point light system, or a two point light system. For the two point system, we got rid of the fill light and just used the key light and the back light. This gave us very dramatic shadows but still allowed us to separate the characters from the backgrounds.

Some more general tips:

1. We lit for style not for reality. (We put lights were no light source would be).

2. Create your main shadow first and then worry about your fill and rim light.

3. Know your post tools. I used a luma key through most of the B&W shots. I keyed out the darker portions of the image. This allowed my blacks to be as black a possible, and it allowed me to adjust my shadows without affecting my highlights. The color to B&W transition was done this way. If you watch it again you’ll notice that the whites of his eyes never get darker. The contrast almost makes them glow.

4. Black felt is an amazing tool. My camera man suggested using it. First of all it is good to block lights you can’t control. Combined with the luma key in tip 3 it allows for some great contrast. The final shot in the movie is almost all highlights because we held black felt behind the actress then keyed it out.

That is enough for now. I’ll go into individual scenes latter.

-Kris Galuska

Any specifics you guys want?

um...are you sure you want to ask that question? :) Scene by scene breakdowns with overhead diagrams and stills. Or explanations of the physical setup with a still posted from that scene...and what you did to it in post to acheive the look.

Did you use a 35mm adapter for the shallow DOF card part(3:48)?

Really neat stuff. The color shift was cool as well.

Overall, I thought the short was great!

I always wanted to make a film noir short, not a serious one, but a comedy one. Someday when I have the free time, I am going to make one.

Re: the black felt tip
The stuff that professionals use is called Duvatyne (aka Commando Cloth), and is a cotton cloth treated to be fire resistant (a good thing near hot lights). It has a knap on one side that is much like black felt, and a smoother side that is still black. It's used all over the place for blocking out windows, flagging off lights, killing reflections. and on and on. A very handy addition to any kit.

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In the beginning, the story and dialogue was TOO reminiscent of Sin City. It was, however, good.

The hallway shots of the main character walking and the killer walking felt out of place. The color, the camera movements and just the overall look of those scenes threw off the whole begining sequence. It wasn't "stylish" enough.

The acting was good and I must agree with Rob. The scene with the lead showing his rage and the fade to black was great.

The whole poker table scene was fun. It made me chuckle and from here on out, the short really starts to establish itself as a noir film. You started good, but like I said, the walking sequences threw it off, at least for me.

The ending was a nice twist, but I honestly felt it was predicatable. When he got shot in the stomach (or wherever else he got shot that didn't kill him), my first thought was that it was her...actually, my first thought was that it was her TWIN sister =P

Overall, I thought it looked great for the most part and it kept me watching 'till the end, wanting to know what happenes next. Entertaining short, I'd like to see more of your stuff.

And the question everyone is asking, Why?

EDIT: Kris, I forgot to mention that yes, I noticed the beginning sequence where the female is in color and the rest is B&W. That is my fav. sequence. Looks really nice and crisp. Very cleanly done.

Did you use a 35mm adapter for the shallow DOF card part(3:48)?

No we did not use a 35mm adapter. This short was way too low budget for that.

The depth of field was a trick in After Effects. It shouldn’t really be called a trick, because it is a long process. Basically I used layers of video with animated masks to focus on the areas I wanted and then used animated Gaussian blurs to “de-focus” the other areas. There were at least 5 different layers in that one shot.

This worked very well for the hand and card because there was little movement. Doing this with multiple people would have been very difficult.

-Kris Galuska

nice, I just posted a short 1 minute film in another thread, for the film noir fans maybe also a nice thing to look at. also wondering what you think.

http://www.grijzewolken.nl/vzion/pro.html

Very nice ... I liked it very much. Although I'm inclined to agree with the poster that said it felt Sin City-esque, especially his voice. It reminded me so much of Josh Hartnet's intro in Sin City. His comments about the hallway sequence I agree with as well.

nice, I just posted a short 1 minute film in another thread, for the film noir fans maybe also a nice thing to look at. also wondering what you think.

http://www.grijzewolken.nl/vzion/pro.html

Cool!

Great voiceover and music. Did you do the music yourself?

It almost feels like it should be a commercial for a TV show. Or, you could rewrite it as a commercial for a product, kind of like the film noir Aflac commercial.

Good job.

-Kris Galuska

Thanks, and no, I must give credit to Miles Davis for the music here. We are planning to make a longer version, longer then a minute so you can actually have a plot in the film ;). And for that version we also want to have an o.s.t.

Don't know that commercial, they don't show that in Holland. Can I watch it somewhere online?

Nice exercise. Got the "Sin City" look / sound down very well.

Nice exercise. Got the "Sin City" look / sound down very well.

Thanks, this really was an exercise. Since it was my capstone project I wanted to show a wide range of my abilities. Instead of having a demo real with different clips I though one short would be better. It shows pacing and development that a clips reel never has.


-Kris Galuska

It looks very good!