I was originally thinking of the hd100 with redrock m2 indiebundle for nikon prime still lenses. Is the hd200 and HZ-CA13U worth waiting till October to see how the tests look. Anybody have the heads up? Plus,.....what's the cost comparison gonna be. Still not sure what the HZ-CA13U is gonna cost? Will the hd200 and HZ-CA13U allow still lenses? like SLR nikons?

I was originally thinking of the hd100 with redrock m2 indiebundle for nikon prime still lenses. Is the hd200 and HZ-CA13U worth waiting till October to see how the tests look. Anybody have the heads up? Plus,.....what's the cost comparison gonna be. Still not sure what the HZ-CA13U is gonna cost? Will the hd200 and HZ-CA13U allow still lenses? like SLR nikons?
This is a good question and coincidentally I will have the HZ-CA13U in my hot little hands on Monday night at the Chicago ProHD user group meeting along with some lens' to try out.

If anyone has any questions specifically, post them here and I'll take the thread to the meeting. BTW the HZ-CA13U fits on the HD-100 as well.

S.Noe

Regarding the HZ-CA13U:

Price.
Projection screen. (Or no projection screen?)
Any limitations re: vignetting, useable stops, grain, etc?
Light loss.

Stephen, would love to hear about the the HZ-CA13U. I have access to a bunch of 16mm primes and would love to hear some reports on how this stuff actually looks.

Thanks a bunch -

Well the HZ-CA13U will work for the HD100 as well since all these cameras have the same lensemount. And the new HD110/111 apparantly have a flip switch as well so that trouble seem to dissapear to. So you aren't required to get a HD200.

What I love to see is some sample shots. I am weighting more and more on getting a JVC as my next cam since it might be a step towards a bigger camera like the Red.

Hi Stephen,

Hope you're doing well. Quite a score, getting a HZ-CA13U at your meeting. I am full of questions. Here's a few:

Of paramount interest is if the adaptor is somehow optically maintaining Super 16 FOV and DOP. Here's a few ways to help us find out:

1) Is there a ground glass or any other re-imaging device inside. I'm told no, but just to be sure, attach a lens and look through the end that attaches to the camera. Do you see a focused image?

2) With a prime on the HZ-CA13U, measure the width of the frame at 10 feet and report your finding along with the focal length of the prime. I'll compare that to the same focal length on S16.

3) Do a depth of field test by framing up a subject with lots of depth using the HZ-CA13U. Duplicate the framing and f-stop with the stock Fujinon and see if DOP is the same or more than the HZ-CA13U. Also note what focal length you needed to duplicate the framing of the S16 prime.

And yes, pricing and light loss and a confirmation of the image flop would all be helpful. Thanks much for shedding whatever light you can on this piece of gear.

Also (and forgive me for going off topic with this), you’re an Avid Liquid fan, right? Have you used it successfully to edit HDV 720p24? Any hitches? Is it native or transcoded? Would you recommend it to others? Thanks!

This is a good question and coincidentally I will have the HZ-CA13U in my hot little hands on Monday night at the Chicago ProHD user group meeting along with some lens' to try out.

If anyone has any questions specifically, post them here and I'll take the thread to the meeting. BTW the HZ-CA13U fits on the HD-100 as well.

S.Noe


Stephen,

Where and when is that meeting? Is it open to visitors who happen to be ProHD users too?

Stephen Knapp

Stephen,

Where and when is that meeting? Is it open to visitors who happen to be ProHD users too?

Stephen Knapp

Monday, June 19, 2006 6:30 PM – 8:30 PM

SMS Productions, Inc.
1229 N. North Branch – S. 218
Chicago, IL 60622

Feel free to join in. SMS is on Goose Island right off of Division (pretty close to the Kennedy). Parking is on the street and is free.

Hope you can make it.

It's Tuesday...any news?

It's Wednesday now. Strange that no one has mentioned anything...even if the HZ-CA13U was a no-show.

I was really interested in hearing about the HZ-CA13U too.

Maybe Stephen is not back yet.

Any update on this?

[QUOTE=Fredrik-Larsson] And the new HD110/111 apparantly have a flip switch as well so that trouble seem to dissapear to. QUOTE]

Is this correct? I looked at the upgrades and do not remeber this being a new feature. I know the hd200/250 will have that feature but I had no idea the hd110 would have it too. I was going to buy a new jvc today but if this hd110 really has the flip switch, I am going to hold out.

I was going to buy a new jvc today but if this hd110 really has the flip switch, I am going to hold out.

Hmm.. I was probably wrong. It has something called mirror mode. I looked through the manual and I can't find any indication on it. But then again they might have some weird name for that feature.

I have to add to the list of those eagerly interested in this adapter -- ?

It is perplexing to me why Stephen has not responded to this thread. Oh well.

Anyhow, I'll share what little information I have on the HZ-CA13U. I was at CineGear over the weekend and at the JVC booth they had an HZ-CA13U sitting on the table. Sorry, but I forgot to take a picture of it. I don't know if this was just a mockup or a working prototype, but it was anodized black and it had what looked to be real lens mounts on it. There was a bayonet mount on one end and a PL mount on the other. It also had a JVC nameplate on it with the model designation "HZ-CA13U" and the serial number said "SAMPLE". It looked like a tapered tube and was about 4 or 5 inches long. If you looked through it, all you could see was an opening and maybe some optical elements. There is no vibrating or spinning ground glass in it. At least this is what the JVC rep said, but to be honest I didn't get the feeling that they knew that much about it or even knew what DOF meant. So I didn't get a definitive answer on what the FOV and DOF would be like.

I don't know if this was just a mockup or a working prototype
It was a mockup, ome elements inside were missing. The most important part though, IMHO, is the price. When asked about it the JVC people said: "below $10.000". Oh well, we'll see how much it will be rented for :)

$10,000!! Forget that,.....guess I'm going with the redrock/hd100 and the ikan H/V flip monitor. Sounds good to me,....thanks fellas. The other features of the hd200 don't interest me all that much,....considering I'll probably never use the 60p,.....unless I was going to use it to overcrank for slow-mo 24p output,......Now maybe I should be asking this in another thread, but can't you achieve slow-mo just as well in post? I would imagine it's a much smoother looking slow-mo with the added frames at 60p? anybody have experience with this?

It was a mockup, ome elements inside were missing.
This sounds like exactly what was shown at NAB 06.

It is perplexing to me why Stephen has not responded to this thread..
Sorry for the delay. I was asked not to comment since the device is still a prototype and not ready for primetime.