uhm...well, that was helpful :)

Anyhow, it is very choppy when it is previewing in real-time in Pro 1.5, but when I run 6.5 (same computer), it runs extremely smooth.
I find it bizzare and was looking for an explanation and hopefully a tweak/solution from someone...

I agree this is quite a slow app even with my pentium 4 3GHz - apparantly it is a system resource and power hungry application and there's not much you can do about it!

Jon

Ah, that's a better explanation. I was hoping you would come back with a response.

There are quite a few things it could be. Premiere Pro uses an overlay on the screen, unlike Media Player. So it could be your video card, or just the video card settings. Do you have acceleration turned on?

Do you frequently defragment your video hard drive? Are you using a different drive for your video than your applications? Not just a partitioned drive, a separate piece of hardware? And do you have them both set to Master on different busses?

Also, do you reboot the PC often? The more RAM available to Premiere Pro, the smoother the previews. And the more often they are previewed, the better the RAM cache works. Sounds odd, I know. But hit enter and ignore the playback. Hit enter again and see if it looks better.

Also, when the screen is redrawing, the playback is poor. Set your tracks to NOT show the Picons and it will redraw faster. So you can preview sooner.

Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs.html) says your specs are above minimum, but when you look at their recommended specs, it is a bit under.

Right-click the monitor and select the display quality to be draft or automatic. That might help with the playback.

You should also follow the suggestions in this thread (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35666).

Thank you for the response...I will give all that a go and see if I can smoothen it out a bit :)
I have 6.5, pro and pro 1.5 all on the same machine, and I can't understand why 6.5 simply doesn't need any mucking around. It is very nimble with real-time, but I have to play around with pro to get the same results.. grrr...

Thanks for the tutorials guys. They've really helped and I've eliminated almost all of my problems. It worked great on the bus hum also.

Experimenting with newly captured footage - there was sound during capture.

Now when I drop a clip into the preview monitor there's only sound when I scrub back and forth over the clip. Also no sound when dropping the clip into the timeline. Again, scrubbing works.

I messed with the audio and audio hardware settings, but am simply using my default Windows soundcard.

What am I missing? Thanks....

Keep in mind that Premiere Pro 1.0/1.5 is far more resource hungry
and takes a much more powerful machine to work fast!

Steven: why do you say that WMP does not use overlay to
display video? Mine does here, as does every other media
player I have here (easily proved with a screen capture program)

John: I've moved your thread to our dedicated Premiere forum.
However, there already is a thread running on this very same
topic, if you can please continue the discussion there:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35595

Rob,

Perhaps I am wrong. My media player did not have overlay turned on by default. Yet it is possible to turn it on.

Or, I may have yurned it off to capture the screen once upon a time and the new Media Player 10 used the older settings when I upgraded recently?

An upgrade should indeed retain your settings <g>

Sorry about posting in the wrong forum, I felt like a knucklehead for a minute or two.

Anyway, this unfortunately is not the same topic as the other thread, as the other current audio thread has to do with rendering.

I have both audio and video in the timeline, the audio will playback only when I scrub over the clip. What gives?

Couple things to try...

1) Double check to make sure that you have enabled the sound output on the specific audio tract.

2) You may also want to expand the track and zoom in to see if you see the audio waveform.

3) Increase the track volume itself to see if it was muffled.

4) Ensure the preview screen has sound enabled.

Do you know of a way to allow multiple colors to be passed using the color pass filter?

What I did was to import the clip in AE and motion tracked the shirt export the file back into PPro and added the chroma key to the AE layer and the added the color lawyer to the original clip. I set the saturation of the original clip to 0 B&W look only

So now the only color in the clip is the shirt.

Thanks for the response - in fact, upon a subsequent restart of Premiere, the audio playback worked no prob. I think it was just a temporary glitch. I will keep in mind your checklist if this occurs in the future.

Hi John,

You'll notice this on many occasions and it can be puzzling when you first start with PPro... it seems to default back to the camera playback setting.

Always check that you have clicked the
"Play audio on audio hardware" button.

this is found by left clicking on the little triangle at the top right corner of your right hand monitor window.
Scroll down to "Playaback settings".

alternatively click on Project > Project Settings > and then click on the Play back settings button..

Et voila

This did confused me for a whole day when I first used PPro, I find it an annoying feature, and not very well thought out...IMHO

Otherwise I love it.

Regards

Gareth

Out of curiousity why didn't just using the colour pass effect work?

Jon

The way the scene was shot made me do the motion tracking AE. The shot began with him in the sunlight and then walking into the shadows. That made the shirt two different shades.

Also masking and titling in AE is better than PPro

Trying not to sound too cheap (but rather economical :)
If you live in Europe, do you have to buy your adobe-stuff through the eurostore (or affiliated dealers in Europe), or can you also buy online at US stores? Will Adobe accept activation and give you support if you imported the apps yourself?
I'm asking this because at the moment of writing, the prices in EUROS in the adobe-eurostore (eurostore.adobe.com) are exceeding the prices in DOLLARS in the US store. Taking account of a 0.75 currency rate, this means that if you take for instance AE pro, you pay 73% more if you buy in europe (€1300 -vs- $1000=€750). That seems a bit ridiculous to me. So if it's not possible, I'll probably consider other software from a company that hasn't got a eurostore ;)

Steven

I've found that after importing footage if I leave the playback deck or camera on the sound will not work in the program, but still be scrubbable. Of course turning the stuff off fixes that.

I've tried importing a PPJ into AE several times with no success. The timeline is only 4 minutes in length and seems to cause AE to freeze up completely. Any ideas?

I've got a 12-minute short film I'd like to encode for distribution on the web using Premiere 6.0. It seems that Quicktime is the best solution for video for the web, since its fairly cross-platform and has a larger installed base than something like DivX, but the Cleaner5 EZ setup that comes with Premiere doesn't seem to like exporting at resolutions higher than 320x240. I'd ideally like to export at full-framerate, 720x480.

I know it's possible to get a 24-minute video on that scale compressed down to <200 mb -- anime fansubbers do it all the time, in DivX, but I don't know what settings to tinker with in Cleaner..

Help greatly appreciated.

Why in the world would you want to post a full frame video to the web!?
"IF" you could actually get it compressed to a reasonable file size it would look like butt "AND" if you compressed it to look decent, the bandwidth charges would eat you alive from downloads. There is a reason video on the web is smaller! Most people can't and won't download a 200MB file! I would, but then again, I've got a fast connection, and then, only if it were a QuickTime progressive download. That way if it sucked I could stop it.

A little trick you can try is to encode it very cleanly at 320x240 and have it play back a 2X size. That's what the Divx and WMP folks do, and yes even Quicktime. The problem you will have is with the presets in Cleaner EZ. You need to do a lot of testing and re-testing of custom settings but I don't know what "EZ" will let you do. You may need Pro to really get it perfect. There is a setting in Cleaner 6 for QuickTime full screen download but it is 1.5mbits/s and is still 320x240, just doubled.

Things to tinker with... frame rate, video bit rate, audio bit rate, keyframe rate, gamma, contrast, brightness, etc...
Test-test-test!

Hi, I got a quick question for you guys. I'm trying to export an 15 minute documentry into a MPEG2DVD file to put into Encore, but several minutes later it starts exporting a error comes up that says, "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame. Cancelling the operation." I have the stock settings for the MPEG2 file and stock settings for NTSC footage. How do I fix this? I need to have this burned by Wensday, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know why you get that error message.
But have you tried to export an avi file from Premiere, and import the avi file to Encore? Then Encore can do the mpeg encoding.

<<<-- Originally posted by Trond Saetre : I don't know why you get that error message.
But have you tried to export an avi file from Premiere, and import the avi file to Encore? Then Encore can do the mpeg encoding. -->>>

No, I haven't, though I will try, but the encoding will mean more extra time and I'm really on the line to get this burned and sent out. If anybody elses knows how to solve this problem please help.

Check out Adobe's Support Knowledgebase (http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330380.html) and let us know if you can get it to work.

However, I prefer to export to AVI, especially if there are several files. Encore can do incremental encoding before the final encode, so while you have some down time, you can tell Encore to transcode the assets you have so far.

So if you import some of the files, you can tell Encore to transcode them. However, this works best when the total amount of your material does not approach disk capapcity (which would force Encore to encode everything over again).

Hi Jake,

Try this:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330380.html

Hope it helps,

<<<-- Originally posted by Ed Smith : Hi Jake,

Try this:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330380.html

Hope it helps, -->>>

The first solution solved my problem. Thanks everyone!

your biggest problem is that you are trying to push the limit with marginal codecs and encoding software that isn't up to the task.

export your footage into the windows media encoder, and run a two-pass wmp9 encode on it... you can't match that quality with any quicktime codec, and while divx is better quality than qt, it still has problems.

the biggest issue with divx is that it creates a non-standard avi file that won't play back in wmp... and wmp is the standard default avi player on all internet computers, so you are forcing the end user to have to also download the divx player to see your movie... not the right choice for the average 'net surfer.

i agree with the concept of not resizing, because it will produce better picture quality... all you have to do is to make it 640x480, which makes the pixels square instead of rectangular... you should be able to do 12 minutes in less than 100mb, depending on the source... you can also offer the 320x240 as a choice.

finally, you can't compare animation to real video when it comes to compression efficiency... real video is much harder to compress.

no problem!

Premier 1.0 DVD's good enought to learn 1.5 version?
Just wondering if I should shell out the extra $100 to get the latest training tapes?

With photoshop 7.0 versus Photoshop CS the tapes are almost the same, so I thought I might get some usefull feddback from people who have already gone this route?

Thanks, Rolland

My tutorials are available on http://www.lynda.com/ and the first chapter is free. Check it out. For only $25 for the month, you can get training on Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop, and much more. Cancel before the end of the 30 days and only get charged the original $25.

When using Premiere 6.5, how do you eliminate the flicker or strobe when slowing down the image that was recorded in 30 fps?

Hi Ray,

Deinterlace or flicker removal.

These can be found by right clicking on the video clip in the timeline choosing video options and then select field options.

Hope this helps,

Are there any free plugins for adobe premiere pro??

There are TONS and TONS of (free) plugins for Premiere. However,
I have not been using it for a long a time so I cannot really help
you in that regard.

Why not do a google search on something like "Premiere plugins",
I doubt it should take long before you find some sites that link
to all sort of plugins.

I believe Premiere Pro 1.5 uses the After Effects engine and older Premiere plugins (premiere 6 and less) probably will not work. In the same token it can use most of the free After Effects plugins.

Hi Steven,

Thats a tough question. I don't think that many people would have brought Adobe Premiere like you suggested, So I don't think you'll be getting many responses.

I would first of all try and get in contact with an Adobe dealer in your area. They'll properly have better prices than on the Adobe eurostore - Or at least could offer you some sort of deal.

Try posting on the adobe forum as well, or try and get in contact directly with Adobe.

Hope this helps,

hi, which matrox real time editing card will work with adobe premiere pro 1.5

i read somewhere that old plugins dont work with this new premiere, so... if i get the old one.... like the matrix RT2000, will that work for this new premiere?

another question, if they're all realtime cards why are there so many different models? im REALLY clueless about matrox, JUST learned about them

any words of wisdom?

thx
-arthur

Hi Arther,

In the Matrox range Premiere Pro will not work with anything less than an RTX100 or RTX 10. That rules out RT2000, RT2500.

If it was me I would go for the RTX100. It offers a few more features than the RTX 10.

All real-time (or hardware accelator boards) offer slightly different functionality than the other. It just depends whether you will benefit from them, and only you can decide that!

Take a look at this comparision between the RTX 100 and RTX 10:

http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/rtxsuitepro_comparison.pdf

Hope this helps a little,

I can speak for the Total Training Videos I have them for Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Photoshop. They are really nice put together videos. If you spend the time to work through them then you'll know the in's and out's of the program. Definatly worth the money. I bought my sets off ebay, and saved a lot of money on them. And I'd say you be safe going with the Premiere 1.0 DVD's.

I'd suggest you forget the matrox cards if you want to realize all the features of pp1.5.

After using Matrox cards for the last four years, I've gone with good hardware and OHCI card along with a pro audio card.

The rt.x100 isn't certified to work with any pro audio cards...... a deal killer right there, then when you add in other hardware conflicts and the loss of many features that aren't supported by Matrox, forget it.

I have a simple question that I should be able to figure out, but haven't been able to do so. I wish to capture in a lower quality (file size) for a pre-edit. I've messed with all the settings I can find. Can't figure it out. Let me know if you get a chance. Thanks in advance.

Rick Stephenson

Think I got it. I switched from DV to windows video and reduced the colors to 256. Gonna capture now and see if that works.

I'm having lots of frame drops when capturing footage from my Canon Optura 10 in Premiere Pro. This has never been an issue until the last couple of times I've captured. Now, I can hardly get 10 seconds of capture before frames start dropping like crazy.

My question is could this be blamed on dirty heads?

Bad tapes? (I've only used one brand, Sony HQ with the blue wrapper)

It seems as though after rendering the previews on the monitor in Premiere are choppy. I'm running a P4 @ 2.8Ghz, with 1.5gig of RAM so I feel like I have enough gas in the machine. Like I said, this has gotten progressively worse over time. When I first started editing video I never experienced this problem.

Any suggestions you might have to remedy the situation would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Some of the likely culprits:
- a nearly full or very fragmented drive (check your drives)
- DMA got accidentally turned off for your capture drive (check and if needed, re-enable)
- 1394 cable/connection (try a different firewire cable)
- anti-virus or other background utility software (temporarily unplug your network connection for safety, turn 'em off, and try the capture again)

Switching brands of tapes is widely reported to cause problems, but if you've used the same tapes all along, shouldn't be a particular factor. I think dirty heads usually result in blocky noise rather than dropped frames, but I suppose if it is bad enough it could repeatedly break the continuity of the timecode in the signal. From what you're describing, though, it doesn't sound likely. More likely a HDD throughput issue since it gets worse as the capture continues.

If none of the above helps...we'll have to think harder!

I have two drives, one is nearly full, the other has 60gigs free. Could one drive being full effect performance?

I have not defragged the bigger drive lately, I'll try that.

I'm not sure what you are speaking of when you mention DMA. Explain?

I'm not opposed to buying another firewire if it helps. I'll try the defrag first and go from there. Thanks for your suggestions.

Anyone else have any ideas? Thank you.

Try "ace utilities: a free trial download from cnet.com. This along with the other suggestions given may help. I cleaned up my computer with it and everything now runs lightning fast. You can also easily view what programs that are running in the background and turn them off it necessary.

Regards,

Mark