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John DeLuca October 19th, 2004, 12:06 AM Maybe try to defragment your drives. A program like "memo kit" can free up your ram before you render, or export. You would be suprised how a gig of ram can get broken up by a bunch of little programs running in the background(that you may, or may not know about ;). I honestly cant say ive seen that error message before, anyone else care to add?
John
John DeLuca October 19th, 2004, 12:26 AM This goes without saying, but.......... Did you compress it first to mpeg 2 first? I belive a dvd will only hold 20 mins of AVI.
John
Christopher Najewicz October 19th, 2004, 08:29 AM Thanks for the help. I really think all the problems I'm having are not really problems with my encode per se, but my roomates crappy panasonic TV. I tested the DVD on another 27" TV and it looks fine, titles are not "jagged". It's also not having the "snow" effect I was having issues with before. Thanks for the help.
Paul Juhn October 19th, 2004, 05:23 PM Hi,
I am not sure ...
I was just exporting it to DVD using PPRO 1.5
It seemed to me that it was converting it to MPEG2 first and then it physically write on the DVD.
Since I was able to create DVD from 7 minute AVI, it is definitely a problem with memory.
But how much Hard/memory is required for converting 28 minute AVI to DVD?
I did disc regrag aslo`and same error at the same position...
I am using DVD RW...
Rob Lohman October 20th, 2004, 03:07 AM Could very well be, ofcourse. Might be good to test different
encoding parameters on different TV sets and see what does
which. It still might be something is "wrong" and the "crappy"
TV does not "hide" this defect as well, so to speak.
Rob Lohman October 20th, 2004, 04:34 AM The problem is that it might not be memory related at all. The RW
might be a problem as well, hard to say.
You will probably need at least 4 - 9 GB free on your harddisk,
memory should be more than enough. Do you have multiple
partitions? It might be that your temporary drive for Premiere is
to a drive/partition that does not have enough space.
Charlie Fuller October 21st, 2004, 09:15 AM Since i am not sure what part of my system is causing this problem, i decided to post here (hope it's the right area)
I am using premiere pro
capturing from a sony dcr-trv 22
using standard dv/ieee1394 capture settings
project settings are default ntsc
when i capture, the aspect ratio looks fine
but when i render or export (either by export movie - avi, or media encoder)
the resulting video is smushed vertically so everyone looks really stumpy
i played around with pixel aspect ratios in the export, but it doesn't
affect anything that i can tell...
what am i doing wrong? (or what are some of the possible things i could be doing wrong?)
thanks in advance!
Rob Lohman October 21st, 2004, 09:42 AM Please provide us with the following information:
1. premiere version
2. exact premiere project settings
3. output format (sounds like avi)
4. exact settings for this output format including codec
5. which program/system are you using to play the resulting file with
Without this it's hard to say. Definitely sounds like an pixel or
screen aspect ratio. You might have set the project or export
settings to 16:9 screen aspect ratio when your footage is just
4:3 or the other way around. Otherwise it is probably a pixel
aspect ratio.
Windows Media Player might/will not playback DV AVI or MPEG
in the correct pixel/screen aspect ratios. If you outputted to
DVD for example watch that with a software DVD player on your
PC or an external DVD. DV AVI can be checked by exporting it
to your camera/DV deck and play that back on a TV.
Otherwise export to a web format like QuickTime/Windows Media
and set the pixel aspect to 1.0 on export and that should play
back correctly in Windows Media Player/QuickTime player for example.
Charlie Fuller October 21st, 2004, 09:51 AM i'll post the full settings when i get home, but i have tried exporting to:
windows media
microsoft avi
microsoft dv avi
and changed pixel aspect ratios where available in the video export settings
played back the files in real player or windows media player
project settings are d1/dv ntsc (0.9)
version is premiere pro (i'll get exact build code tonight)
same results no matter the settings or the playback program...
should/might real player have the same problems playing a dv avi or mpeg in the right aspect ratio? if so, is there another mpeg or avi player that i should use/try?
thanks for the help!
Rob Lohman October 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM I can't speak for Realplayer, sorry. In my personal case WMP is
not playing it at the correct aspect ratio with a DV AVI at 1.0
pixels. The problem for me is that it is hard to see how much the
distortion is and whether it is normal or not.
If you output to something like windows media (or anything
besides DV AVI and MPEG2/DVD) you should set the pixel aspect
ratio to 1.0 (computer PA). That SHOULD play back correctly in
WMP for example. It does so here.
So your footage is NTSC 4:3? If so your project settings should
be okay. I don't need the exact Premiere build number, but I was
wondering whether you are running an old version or Premiere
Pro 1.0 or 1.5 for example.
I just checked and my Media Player Classic (MPC) DOES play my
DV AVI's back in the correct pixel aspect ratio, you can get it here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84358&release_id=227046
Dmitry Yun October 22nd, 2004, 09:06 PM I have this idea for a music video and I was wondering if there is a way to crop your shots in Adobe Premier 6.5 or Pro. If there is Holla Holla.
Arigato
Ed Smith October 23rd, 2004, 01:14 PM Premiere has Crop effects, its normally found in the video effects palette.
I guess it also depends on what you mean by crop. Could you please explain how you imagine the effect?
thanks,
Dmitry Yun October 23rd, 2004, 01:18 PM I want to shoot something and then cut it in half :)
I can't quite explain it. Are there tools that crop the image?
Something I can use to just cut the clip in half.
Thanks for the reply Ed
Ed Smith October 23rd, 2004, 01:25 PM Yes!
If you want to cut the image in half and want black at top or bottom then use the clip effect.
If you want half of the image to fill the screen use the crop effect (you will loose resolution).
If you want to squish the image then the transform filter should do the job.
As I said most of these are found in the video effect bin...
Let us know if you need some more advise,
Thanks,
Dmitry Yun October 23rd, 2004, 02:33 PM Rock on man. Thanks, I don't usually edit, but my editor is away and I really want to make this video :) Once I'm done I'll drop it by :)
Thanks Again.
Jonathan Nicholas October 23rd, 2004, 03:45 PM Crop in prem pro is different to 6.5.
It's a proper crop in prem pro
In 6.5 crop would only take upto 5% or so off the picture edges, and the picture would expand to fill the screen.
In prem pro, it's a crop where you can basically cut out any rectangular part of the picture. The resulting cropped picture does not expand to fill the screen, but remains it's original size and you can put it over another picture if you wish for a picture in picture effect - the crop now has an automatic keying matte.
Jon
Dmitry Yun October 23rd, 2004, 07:25 PM Thanks for that I don't really use Pro so much I kow it's better but once I get used to something I get used to something if you know what I mean. I figgured if you apply the effect of crop onto the clip more than once you can take off more and more (thats a solution) :)
Thanks again
Lukah Sighs October 24th, 2004, 09:45 AM hi,
i'd like to split the image but how can i remain the full image? if i crop it, it's only the half of it and i would like to split the screen in 2 images.
thanks,
John DeLuca October 25th, 2004, 12:56 AM I see alot of people posting about good 60i to 24p conversions. I was wondering if this is possible in pro, and how to go about doing it. How does it effect the image quality? Any help on this would be appreciated.
John
Jean-Luc Addams October 25th, 2004, 11:40 AM You can copy the wanted effect from a clip.
Select however many clips on the timeline you want by either shift click, or click drag, or click drag + shift.
This will select any number of clips on a timeline.
You just paste attributes.
As said above, it will add to any effects already on a clip, but IT DOES WORK for any number of selectd clips.
Although, it may be a better idea to use the other method - new sequence, drag the sequence you want and apply the effect that way.
BEWARE - Premire Pro does have memory leakage that can prevent some Canopus effects from completing properly (currently I am aware of Mirror when using Chroma Key). This seems to occur when using the 'main concept' mpeg writers multiple times!
George Gerez October 25th, 2004, 02:40 PM Does anyone have a template for premier pro for a 2.35:1 aspect ratio.. you can email it to me at george@asff.com
Thanks a million..
P.S. or let me know the url of a site that contains this info.
Randall Hall October 25th, 2004, 09:12 PM I'm new, brand new to Premiere Pro. I have books and help cds but can't even get started because of the following problem.
I open Premiere Pro and import a video clip. When I try to play that clip on the Monitor Window only the first frame flashes and then the Monitor Window gives me a black screen. If I continually drag the Monitor Window around, the clip will play. The second I stop dragging it around it freezes on a frame. Pick it up and drag it again and I get video rolling.
I'm raring to go but can't get the first thing going. Oh, also, I can play the same clips in Vegas 5.0 without a problem. This leads to a more fundamental question. . .maybe I should just stick with Vegas?
Help will be GREATLY appreciated.
Randy
Glenn Chan October 25th, 2004, 10:30 PM Premiere is probably playing the video out (full fps) through firewire.
You should go into the settings and tell Premiere not to, or disconnect your camera/deck.
Randall Hall October 26th, 2004, 12:06 PM I don't think that's it. I have no camera connected. Also, my Canopus Storm Bay has a light that monitors when there is input or output. There's no light on.
The strange fact that when I continually drag the monitor window around leads me to think it has something to do with a refresh rate but I'm not sure what.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Rusty Williams October 26th, 2004, 04:34 PM For some reason, my PP will not show any even minute timecodes (for example, the count would go from 00;59;29 to 01;00;02.)
This is throughtout the entire duration of the piece and at every minute spot. The "00" frame does not exist on the timeline.
Can anyone tell me why this is happening, and how - and if - I can fix it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
-Rusty-
Rusty Williams October 26th, 2004, 04:42 PM Whoops, I just figured it out (after several hours).
I had to switch to NON Drop-Frame Timecode. - Thanks anyway for the prospective help.
...It figures, once I finally ask for help, I'd stumble onto the solution...
Nina C Frost October 27th, 2004, 09:58 PM Hi All,
Can i know wats the shortcut key to having a full screen preview on my monitor when I'm viewing video from Adobe Premiere Pro V7.0 for XP?
Thanks
Nina
My Inanimate World
Ronnie Grahn October 28th, 2004, 12:24 AM Templates: http://www.geocities.com/robvisuar/calc.htm
Moderator note: this in an old site, see post below for the new location
Ed Smith October 28th, 2004, 06:16 AM Hi Nina,
Viewing your video footage at the same resolution of your VGA monitor will not give you a good representation of what the video will look like. It is best to hook a TV upto your computer (there are many ways to do this).
You can expand the video preview monitor and then magnify the screen (right clicking on the video monitor and choosing magnify). But the resolution will be greatly reduced.
We now have a dedicated Premiere forum, so i'll move this into it.
Thanks,
Greg Harris October 28th, 2004, 06:21 AM Have PP updated this for the camera??
Miguel Lombana October 28th, 2004, 07:17 AM This came up a while back and I just got around to trying it to see if letterboxing in post was better than shooting 16:9 and importing into a 4:3 project and letting Premier do the matte.
Without a doubt, I'm convinced that shooting in 4:3 works best for me and adding in a simple Canopus region filter for the letterbox or even importing a matte done in photoshop over the final project works best and fastest...
But my question is (and I'm not sure if this will get an answer here or in a Canopus forum) why the heck would a 16:9 project imported into Premier in a 4:3 project hang the realtime of my canopus setup and cause a time line stop or out of frame error?
When I play back that 16:9 now in the 4:3 my system will play about 3 seconds of the file then pop up with a frame loss error. Canopus users will understand... but curious to know why, doesn't make sense... I can play back any 4:3 or 16:9 footage when they are imported into the proper project so why not now?
miguel
Peter Jefferson October 28th, 2004, 08:00 AM adobe have worked on a plugin to support the format. Apparently it works... but im still waiting for its release before i can test it..
im also waiting for matrox and canopus to come out with their response to the new PCI Express mobos and gfx cards....
not a good time to be buying a PC editing suite.. too much activity with new formats im afraid..
Nina C Frost October 28th, 2004, 10:18 AM Hi Ed,
Saw your reply. But wat i like to do is to have it full screen on my monitor. Like watching video with windows media player? You can have it on full screen preview.
It seems that premiere doesn't allow me to drag the preview monitor to the same size as my monitor screen. I know that i can magnify it, but the screen size does not increase simulatneously.
Talking about TV output,I do realise monitors aren't the same as TV but my card doesnt' suport video output so there goes...
Hope someone can help.
thanks
Nina
Ed Smith October 29th, 2004, 02:31 AM I take it that you are using a DV camera to capture/ export? If so simply leave the camera attached, and switched on while editing. Then make sure in preferences that you have set the playback settings to use DV camera/ firewire. Hook up a TV to the analogue outputs of your DV camera. Switch the TV to its AV input channel, and then you should see a preview of your timeline on your TV. easy...
If you need to know specifics please let us know.
Thanks,
George Gerez October 29th, 2004, 08:51 AM Thank you!!....
Jose di Cani October 29th, 2004, 09:02 AM Before editing a new movie, start up premiere......choose NEW, then you will have lots of options where you can decide the resolution of your proyect. Import your video sample. Doesn't fit, huh? well, go back to you menu and choose properties for the composition and resize it. YOu can also look for info about yje ovie you want to import, write these down on paper. Then choose new, and type these dimensions over into the box.
Good luck
Jose di Cani October 29th, 2004, 09:09 AM import 16:9 to yoru proyect> render movie> choose 4:3 pulldown.
Jose di Cani October 30th, 2004, 05:37 AM HI
I started premiere with the same setting as used in the video I imported. The video has no visual problems whatsoever. Evrything is clean and great. Then I import it and then I see interlaced-kind-of visual problems...straight edges around fast moving objects. That is weird. I haven't appplied any effects in adobe and still adobe gives a not-true representation of the imported video. Weird.
video: 25 fps, 48 kz , 90 min
any tips?
Jose di Cani October 30th, 2004, 06:00 AM thanks for the info. I understand that an imported file in pc will always LOOK interlaced and edgy. SO ow to the profesionals make a video with their xl2 or pd150? They use pc's as well, don't they? SO they will also see interlaced artifacts whatever video you import (24, pal or 30 fps).
Steven Gotz October 30th, 2004, 01:51 PM Where did you get the video? From the Internet? You wrote "import" and not "capture".
What kind of video is it. PPro does not take well to MPEG video.
Rusty Williams October 30th, 2004, 08:03 PM Hi, Folks...
I'm having a problem exporting my timecode along with the timeline out of Premiere Pro to my Canon ZR40.
When I export, the camera ignores the timeline's timecode and starts fresh from 0. Is there a way to send the timecode out or am I just out of luck here?
Thanks a lot in advance.
-Rusty-
Rob Lohman October 31st, 2004, 11:00 AM Actually, that is my old site, the new link should be:
www.visuar.com/letterbox/calc.htm
Randall Hall October 31st, 2004, 08:45 PM They have been AVI video. I've tried both AVI that I have captured and stock AVI videos. Thanks for the info that Premiere Pro doesn't take well to MPEG video. Though that's not the problem in this case, it's still useful information.
Steven Gotz October 31st, 2004, 09:14 PM Perhaps it is the DirectX causing a problem. Premiere Pro uses an overlay to show the video in the monitor window.
Try turning down your hardware acceleration one step. You should find the setting in the troubleshooting section of the advanced settings of the screen properties.
Scott Ellifritt October 31st, 2004, 11:25 PM Unless you have a Rolls Royce set up with memory and dual processing power, the video will not play back at full speed and resolution. I have Adobe Video Collection Pro and I get pristine results when I author to DVD via MPEG2. So try going to DVD and check your results there, just to be sure.
Rob Lohman November 1st, 2004, 06:19 AM I think that is the camera's choice, although I'm not quite sure.
Double check your camera/premiere settings and manuals to see
if it is an option somewhere. Otherwise I don't know. The general
idea is that DV timecode is not very robust, so I wouldn't be
surprised if it did it this way.
George Gerez November 1st, 2004, 01:28 PM I am having a strange problem. While playing back content in the timeline I keep getting ever 10 seconds or so a 2-3 second audio drop. where no sound is heard.. its extreamly annoying to say the least.. The video is fine.. but the audio keeps on stoping.
The maching is brand new with running Premiere 1.5 and a Canopus DV storm 2 Pro board. Running the latest Windows XP with Service pack 2.
Can anyone help?
Rusty Williams November 1st, 2004, 03:05 PM Thanks, Rob... I took your advice and pored over the manuals and all online info I could find on camera & software. - I believe you are right; it just ain't gonna happen. :-)
Oh well, I've got a plan "B" to try, so I think that's next.
Thanks!
Randall Hall November 1st, 2004, 03:22 PM Thanks, again. But this didn't change things. It remains that if I drag the Monitor Window around I get video; the second I stop, freeze frame. If I don't drag it around then the first frame only is shown and then I get a black screen.
Daniel Gast November 1st, 2004, 10:28 PM I'm assuming this is something done in Premiere. I've never had the problem before, but fast motion is causing the lines to appear quite badly on my low-light footage. How do I de-interlace the footage? Does it have to be done with the camera, or are my suspicions correct that it's somehow done in exporting?
I'd love to know, I hate those lines :)
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