Hi Charlie,

I'm not to sure upgrading your PC hardware will increase, MPEG 2 export rendering times by 50% running premiere in software only. However, if you buy a hardware accelerator i.e. Matrox RTX 100, you get realtime MPEG 2 Export (i.e. if the project is an hour long, it will take 1 hour to export), provided your system uses the recommended specs supplied by Matrox.

www.matrox.com/video

It might be worth looking into?

Hi Greg,

Those questions are very subjective. What one person might say, might be completely different to what you like. The best thing to do in this situation is to get a demo so that you can see it for yourself.

It does not matter whether you use HD or 24p in premiere than it is to use it in another program like FCP or Vegas. Digital is digital, HD is HD and frame rate is frame rate. These things can not change and will not make any differences, no matter what editing application you choose to use.

You are right though that in 1.5 you get 24p, and capture to HDV (Mpeg recorded onto DV). true HD capture is done via external capture boards.

Cheers,

Ed

Hi Alexey,

Have you set your DVX 100 device in premiere? Can you capture, if so does it capture video or just black?

Can you preview/ capture via windows movie maker?

What are the exact premiere settings you are using?

You should be able to see a preview in the capture window.

Thanks,

im glad someone remembers that feature and it wasnt just me! anyway, i have an xl1-s but the minimum is half a second record every 30 seconds. not good enough for me to get those really beautiful time lapse images i want (and used to get!). ( i have a small sony "danger cam" that also has the same interval recording) maybe i should re install the old premiere software on my laptop and i could use it that way....

thanks for the input!

marc

Hi,
I have Premiere Pro 1.0 and I can not get Premiere to recognize my JVC HR-DVS3U MiniDV/VHS recorder.

Does anyone else have this VCR and are able to get it working with Premire?

Help!

This is a funny coincidence, I have just today captured some time lapse footage of clouds flying across the screen! It is amazing being able to do REAL time lapse of one frame at a time. The interval recording in some cams is just not good enough, unless you speed up the footage, to get a smoother motion, which can work.

I have used Premiere 6.0 for my footage, and you can use 6.5. I tried Premiere 7.0/pro, and was surprised to see no stop motion/time lapse capture facility at all.

Give Premiere 6.0 or 6.5 a try. 6.5 can export MPEG2 which might make a difference, but either can produce stunning time lapse.

At work we have a JVC mini-DV/VHS combo deck and it works with Premiere Pro 1.5. It can't do some things like firewire DV --> VHS, but it works fine as a DV deck.

I have heard that the deck in question has lots of problems (lots of defective units). You may have a defective unit. I would try to refund it if possible. Some people from the DV-L mailing list have said the firewire port on it didn't work (if I remember correctly).

Thanks Chan! This is interesting....and I've also seen all the bad reviews for the deck. Although, the reason why I did purchase it in the first place because there was a glowing review here in THIS forum. Anyways, do you have a link to that mailing list you are talking about? Is there anything worth reading in there about this problem?

I am thinking of just sending it back to B&H and getting a better model.....

http://www.dvcentral.org/thelist.html
I used to read it but then I don't have time to read it anymore when I can check this board rabidly instead.

You should be able to use the search.

2- I would be sending it back to B&H. The deck would be fine as long as it worked (which it doesn't). You might want to look at the DSR-11 or Panasonic decks instead.

As far as I can tell:

DSR11:
Does DVCAM and full-sized tapes
Full sized DVCAM tapes can be very useful if you need to make a 2-hr master.
Clones timecode onto DVCAM, although you need the more expensive full sized tapes to clone a 1hr mini-DV (DVCAM uses more tape). This would be useful for dubbing tapes with the exact same timecode (archives, backups).
Not sure if you can start the timecode wherever you want. You want to do this if making a master for broadcast.
No LCD screen or audio meters or headphone jack, which is annoying.
Does not add 7.5IRE setup?
http://www.global-dvc.org/html/DSR11.asp

Panasonic:
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=68664&catGroupId=14596&modelNo=AG-DV2500&surfModel=AG-DV2500
Has audio meters!!! Super useful for dubbing. Otherwise you have to run things through a mixer or seperate VU meter.
The AG-DV2500 at panasonic's site looks sweet. Has all the pros of the DSR11 and doesn't have the cons. Not sure how good it is though. I've heard recommendations for the discontinued 1500 model.

JVC:
Cheap compared to above.
It's a deck. Has decently fast FF/RW.
Is a (S?)VHS deck too, but I haven't figured out how to go from firewire DV to VHS.
No audio metering and no LCD screen. Not sure about 7.5IRE setup.

Camcorder:
Some can read DVCAM tapes.
Has LCD screen to help you troubleshoot connections and screen footage.
Has headphone output. Would be nice if they had audio meters.
May be bottom loading. (PITA)
Cheap cheap cheap.
Doubles as a camcorder.

You can run Premiere 6.5 and Premiere Pro on the same sytem, Since they install into completely different folders. They will co-exist with one another. That might help you out...

Cheers,

I have a scene that is supposed to look stressful, and then it calms down. I would therefore like to slow it down gradually, going from speed 400% to 100%. That should include the music track with "maintain original pitch".

My problem is that I cannot keyframe the speed attribute, so it remains constant for the entire scene.

Any ideas on how to achieve that?

thanks guys! i will run them together (as long as it doesnt mess with my matrox configuration!) and get the time lapse i need!

yes, i did use the interval recording but had to speed it up somewhere in the neighborhood of 2000X to get it to look decent (it still didnt look as nice as the old time lapse capture though!)

thanks for all the help...
marc

Oh, you are using Matrox hardware. That might complicate issues, in terms of running both versions on the same machine.

The reason for this is that the Matrox driver is only meant for Premiere Pro, so trying to install it with 6.5 ain't going to help matters. Even if you try to install the 6.5 matrox driver aswell, the software probably won't know when to use the hardware.

I don't think it will matter if you run 1 with hardware, and then the other in software only. However I think that Matrox had a little app for 6.5 that done more timelapse stuff than the in-built timelapse capture done by Adobe.

It might be worth to contact Matrox, via phone, e-mail or forum, to see what they can advise.

Things might get hairy otherwise...

Ed

What causes loss of frames (sometimes it's such a pain in the a)? Is it a problem with system resources or the camcorder?
thx

You mean dropped frames?

1- Hard drive not in DMA mode. (winXP) Go to control panel --> system --> hardware --> device manager --> IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
look under each controller's properties.
Go to advanced tab, check to see what DMA mode the hard drive is in. Higher is better (i.e. DMA mode 5 is good), but but the maximum depends on your hard drive.

2- Hard drive is over 85% full.

3- Bad interaction between your deck/camcorder and firewire drives. Get another firewire card or capture to internal drive.

4- Capturing to USB and firewire drives may cause problems.

5- Other programs that are running are competing for the hard drive. Check for viruses, adware, spyware, etc. Also try rebooting.

6- I've noticed Premiere will drop frames when you feed it bad signals (i.e. inconsistent timecode/video/audio). Try capturing from another mini-DV tape.

7- Your motherboard uses a VIA chipset (athlon XP processor).

You should give us more detail on your problem.
A- What device are you capturing from?
B- What device are you capturing to?
C- What version of Premiere?
D- How many dropped frames?
E- Are the dropped frames spread throrough?
F- When did this problem start occuring?
G- Does it always happen?

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Maybe we should have a troubleshooting sticky somewhere for dropped frames. It would save some typing and would have more possible causes and solutions.

Have you tried chopping the scene into multiple segments each with a different speed value? Will be sort of stair step depending on how many segments you cut the scene into, but should work.

Once you have your assets ready to go, you will then bring a copy of your waveform into your sound editing program. Select the area that you wish to transform and find the gliding stretch filter. This will slow the tempo down by adding time to accomplish the pitch stretch.
Kind of like in the old analogue days when you were playing a vinyl record and turned off the power to the turntable.

Thanks, but I am sending this POS back on Monday....no other piece of equipment has frustrated me more than this one.

I guess the chopping up would work, but the sound editor sounds good too. I just don't have much experience with sound editors, but Ill look around.

Thanks.

Is the problem it won't recognize it or you don't have device control? I have a similar unit and it works ok. Try pressing the channel control on the JVC until it reads "F-1" this might help.

Been there done that. I can not get Premiere to recognize the VCR...meaning that I can not import/export or even control the device control. I did a search and saw that many other people in other forums have had the same problems.

You get what you pay for.

It's okay, it's already packed up and ready to ship back to B&H.

I had premere 1.0 and it wasn't showing the 2 video effects, motion and opacity; however the volume was there.
Now I uninstalled ver.1.0 and installed 1.5 and the motion and opacity still aren't there!
So my question is: what do you think is going on here? (I'm guessing its a conflict somewhere) or if that fails can u recommend a 3rd party plug in that would replace the motion and opacity filters?

i really wish somebody would write a plug-in to give us this feature...

it would be great to have this sort of flexibility on footage that we have already shot, withing having to thought ahead of time that we might want to do this with it.

matthew

Thats a million dollar question ! How the damn do we slow down the video speed & gradually speed it up ! I look forward to sugestion !!!

Adobe have not yet included that feature into Prmiere. It is possible via after effects.

If you want to do it via premiere you will need to cut the clip into segments and then assign each one a different speed.

If you want something a bit smoother, then this plugin might help you out:

http://www.revisionfx.com/rstwixtor.htm

Cheers,

Expirement is probably the best, but I would go with 23.976 fps
first. Why?

1) PPro will know the correct framerate since it can read it from the AVI file and you can even set it manually I believe

2) You don't want to do pulldown on something that isn't telecined 24 fps -> 30 fps footage

So it should either be 24 fps or 23.976 fps. Since the sources is
actually 29.97 fps and not 30 I'm assuming 23.976 would be the
correct number to use as well and not 24.

Any ideas on an upgrade date.



John

Well, I fixed it. Or rather I screwed up ver1.0 install (was working before) and it kept the settings in the 1.5. It certainly was my fault (bit of a hacker here). So, in a new project its reset to normal...thank God

version 1.5 review:
I love the fact that it uses after effects plugins! making it easily the most effect rich editor on the market.
Its very much like photoshop- a slightly quirky powerhouse!
New color corrector and HD support etc. but heck read above.
(I will try out Vegas for straight editing however ;) since its recommended so highly here)

Howd we do this i AF5 i havent tried it before in AF !! ANY help please !!!

Wow! We haven't had Premiere Pro 1.5 very long yet, and you want to skip over 2.0 and go straight to 2.5?

Seriously, Adobe never announces until they have a firm date within around 30 days. So rumors may fly, but nobody who knows can tell, and nobody who tells actually knows. My guess is you have at least 6 months or more.

Hi Bankim,

Go to google and type in after effects speed ramping, or time ramping in after effects.

heres one tutorial, that might get you started:

http://www.shumways.net/n/html/article.php?sid=38

Cheers,

thanks Ed.

I'm sorry to hear about your problems Jim. I don't have a solution
for you, however. What I do have is a common sense tip which
I always use.

When saving your project do so with different filenames, I usually
follow the following convention: projectname yyyymmdd desc

I at least do a "save as" instead of "save" once a day, sometimes
more often if I change something radical, like I can have this:

dvinfo_commercial 20040801
dvinfo_commercial 20040803

etc.

or sometimes:

dvinfo_commercial 20040803 blackandwhite

to indicate something drastical has changed

I just hooked up my firewire drive to check my last years Lady X
episode to see how many project files I had for that: 13 (and
since Vegas automatically makes backups of those files there
are 13 more totalling 26 files).

All my footage is in sub-folders split up in either scenes or
categories. All of this is in a seperate folder per project as well.

Why do I still include the name in the project file as well? To make
sure anything I e-mail to someone else or somehow move around
I know to which project it belongs. On some projects I've dropped
the year part since I know what year it is from, but generally I
would include it.

This method of archiving makes sure I always have a version from
not too long ago I can fall back upon if something where to go
wrong, which never happened with Vegas I might add.

Someone Premiere seems to have a real problem keeping its
project files in a correct manner. Good luck with that!

Steve: you answered your own question <g>

The codec is using A DEFAULT. It is NOT using your PROJECT
or FOOTAGE SETTINGS!!!!

As I've said a time and time again on these boards defaults
rarely are good enough for most things you want to do.
ALWAYS learn what you can change, what it does and why
you should change it or leave it alone.

MPEG2 encoding is a complex business and I suggest you look
into things like:

- bitrate numbers
- constant versus variable bitrate encoding
- field order

Contrary to popular believe this stuff isn't "easy" if you want
the best quality.

I learned my lesson, now I save multiple times!

The new interface is soooo much better than 6.5 I work at least 3 times faster than I did before, also the fact that I can work with individual Photoshop layers is awesome... Anyone else feel me??

Oh yea A/B Editing is very easy to forget...

Okay, so I'm up to like 6 hours of captured footage for the short I'm currently working on. Premiere lags so badly it's not funny. After I capture something, it takes like 4 minutes before the window will respond again. If I lose focus to premiere during the usual editing by lets say an instant message, it takes like 2 minutes before premiere unfreezes when I try to give it focus again. I have a 3ghz, with a gig of ram, and 7200 rpm hard drives which have been defragged. Is Premiere 7.5 just bad at editing things together with this much footage imported?

I'm thinking of switching to Vegas 5.

Others will chime in who have more experience with Premiere, but yes I had a similar issue and so did a friend - I consider Premiere a piece of crap to be honest - but it's popular and must do a good enough job for all the people who buy it.

Needless to say, we switched and both now use Vegas.

Aaron

I switched to Vegas and it's like going from a 300mhz processor to a 2ghz. The program is just designed smarter. Of course the last version of Premiere I used was 6.5, so I don't know about "pro". Adobe should just stick to Acrobat, Photoshop, Illustrator, and After Effects... the rest of their programs suck.

I am a working with premiere and had a maximum of 5 hours of footage. I had no problems at all.

I give Premiere time enough for conforming audiofiles and writing some necessary files at transitions. It works smoother.
I like to divide my 5 hours in shorter chapters, which can be easily consolidated later.
I am working with a (one year) old PC with 2Mhz Intell and 768 Mb. I think next year this machine will be oldfashioned.

I always use an empty defragmented partion of a separate harddisk for editing and capturing. And i do a fresh restart.

I have my PC not really optimalised for video (a little bit only)except for the fact that I do no experiments with trial software on this pc. I have another pc for this. And i disabled all scheduled things like automatic updates etc. and also all humbug that comes with things like Real Player, Quicktime and Win Mediaplayer. Of course it is wise to disable all unneeded software while capturing like standby printer drivers etc. Being disconnected then from Internet i even disable my virusscan and firewall. I don't need them.

Another thing which i use a lot is using ScenalyzerLive. It cuts the footage in smaller parts. To play it safe I read half the tape (DVCAM 40 min) and then the second half. With ScenalyzerLive an overlap of one (or part of a) scene is no problem at all and wise.

All this together I never had any problem with premiere pro.

One tip: be sure that the powersupply is redundant sufficient for the number of disks. If not: ( minor) write-errors will occur and spoil everthing!! Those errors are not always recognised by Windows filecheck, but they áre by analysis software which is usually available from the diskmanufacturer. The writingspeed of the disk is no problem anymore.

I am working with adobe premiere pro.
I want to render a quicktime movie with Sorenson3 for video and mp3 for audio. I have seen impressing good results with that.

I have 2 questions:

1. How can i render mp3 audio together with sorenson3 for quicktime in Premiere?? The choise is not there! The mp3 encoder codec is on my PC.

2. The stdrd settings in Premiere for Sorenson are not optimal.
I want B-frames enabled and "FrameDroping" disabled.
I could not find a registry setting for that ( may be I was looking wrong ).
Do you have any suggestions how to change that in the regsitry or any ini-file or settingsfile?

i've done a lot of editing with premiere 6.5, and i've never had those kinds of lag problems.

the fact is that how much total raw footage you have in the bin can't possibly be a factor, because it's not being accessed by premiere... it's just a series of links sitting there... if you are talking about putting 6 hours of footage directly in the timeline, you really should break up the edit into manageable lengths, regardless of what editor you are using.

one thing i always do with premiere is turn off the audio waveform re-draw feature... and how many undo levels do you have selected?

another thing to consider is how many total edits you have in the timeline, audio/video/graphics added together... 200? 400? 600 even?

some of the old video editing software programs simply couldn't handle hundreds upon hundreds of edits reliably.

Hello,
can anyone help?

1. I colour corrected a dv movie (shot in PAL format) using NTSC standards (In Premiere Pro). I used the waveform and vectorscope as guides, making sure the IRE values were between 7.5 and 100. I also enabled the video limiter option. However after rendering, I noticed to my dismay that the waveforms had changed and were not within the above stated IRE values and the video limiter checkbox was deselected on some clips. What's even more bizarre is that the clips appeared colour corrected but its just the waveforms that were out of wack.

Any ideas on what could have caused this and possible solutions?

2. I've got another question: my footage was shot in PAL format and I was wondering whether I should colour correct for PAL or NTSC standards for viewing in both North America and Europe.

thanks

Hi,
I'm working on video project with about 6 - 7 audio tracks in Premiere Pro, consisting of music, dialogue and sound effects. I'd like to know if there’s a way to select which tracks should be on either the left or right channel in the final mixing process. So that for example the dialogue can be on one channel and the rest of the audio tracks on another for dubbing into other languages later on. The final output will be on either DV or Beta tape.

Thanks

Hi,
I'm applying noise reduction filters on audio from a video project i'm working on in Premiere Pro. I have to take the wav files into Adobe Audition (using the 'Extract from Video' command), but when save over the existing wav files, they're not updated in Premiere. I have to manually import each and every wav file I've worked on and match it back to the video. Is there an easier way to do this?

Adobe Premiere comforms these new wav files as I import them, thereby doubling the number of conformed files on my hard disk. What I don't understand is that, the wav files that I apply the filter to in Audition replace the original wav files on the hard drive, but not in Premiere. How is that possible?

Hi Pat,

I'm glad you like PP.

Premiere has been out for such a long time that A/B editing workspace was used to mimic the linear way of doing things, so that the guys who were used to Linear editing should find Premiere pretty simple/ similar to use. What most people did not realize was that Premiere had a single track workspace as well, but most people tended to use A/B editing because it was easier to understand.


I like premiere too...

Thanks,

That depends on what "viewing" is. If you are going to get your
clip broadcasted it is probably best to let them handle the
necessary compression and perhaps PAL to NTSC conversion.

PAL basically does not need such safeguards. If you are going
to put it up on the web it does not matter if it is in PAL or NTSC
and you can forego any use of these guidelines as well.

Jan: you should not bother with things like registry / ini or
settings file. If it isn't there in your interface it won't get there.

Regarding the MP3 audio, that is a strange one. I have a
QuickTime movie on my desktop that Vegas claims has a MPEG
layer 3 audio track (MP3). I can play this back and Vegas can
load this. However, when I render to QuickTime 6 I do not see
this codec in the audio list indeed.

I checked and upgrading to QuickTime 6 Pro does not change
a thing. Somehow the codec is not there. I'm not quite sure
why it isn't there....

You have to pay for the mp3 codec. Quicktime may only work with the one from Faunhofer IIS or whatever. There are other mp3 codecs out there but AFAIK they won't work.

Sorenson3 options: You also need to pay to enable those extra options. The pro sorenson3 codec will give you noticeably better quality.

C'mon people, Premiere 6.x was a turd compared to Premiere Pro, Avid, Final Cut, and Vegas.

I don't have experience cutting huge projects in Premiere so I can't help you with your problem. But for a music video I am working on (there's edits in both programs), both Premiere Pro and Vegas are handling it fine. Premiere takes longer to conform things. Final Cut would likely be slower.

The suggestion for splitting your project up is a good one.

You can also try the demo for Vegas. You might be able to convert your cuts through an EDL to save a little time. (maybe!)