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Brett Schofield May 20th, 2006, 06:54 PM Hi all. I have finally got my new FX1 and veryy happy with it.
I bought a Rode Videomike to go with it but I am a little confused with setting it up.
The Rode manual says it outputs Line level but when I set the cameras input to line I get no or little sound. When I change it to ext mic it comes through, but only on the right channel at proper levels and on the left channel at the same level as for the line level....Anyone understand this and able to tell me whats wrong.
Thanks
Leo Pepingco May 21st, 2006, 03:35 AM someone out there must own a Rode Video Mic?
Ben De Rydt May 21st, 2006, 06:43 AM It outputs mic level. Check the plug if the left and right channel won't line up. Chances are you didn't push it deep enough.
Stu Holmes May 21st, 2006, 09:21 AM Also, (i'm not too familiar with FX1), but if there's a facility to independently change the levels of left and right channel, i'd check that too.
Mack Fisher May 21st, 2006, 09:39 AM I use the rode video mic, When I got it I plugged it into the jack on the camera and changed it to ext mic it worked perfectly. Just make sure you use auto for some reason every sony aside from the f900 etc.. when they come in contact with forgein audio masacure it completely
Brett Schofield May 22nd, 2006, 04:59 AM Thanks for the ideas guys. I does work fine on ext mike setting, but when I use the data screen to check Ch1 and Ch2 (L/R) only the right channel (2) has normal audio. The Left channel is VERY low and only registers sound when I tap the mic....
I have double checked the connection and it is plugged in properly and all the way in....has anyone heard of this situation at all?
Thanks again
Brett
Leo Pepingco May 22nd, 2006, 09:26 AM I did some reading, and since I live in Australia, I'll se if I can give the Rode people a call.
But for now, what I've found out is that the Mic is Mono. So you'll have to somehow split the sound in post. I'll post again after I get off the phone with Rode... Unless someone gets there before me...
Darin Boville May 22nd, 2006, 10:13 AM I did some reading, and since I live in Australia, I'll se if I can give the Rode people a call.
But for now, what I've found out is that the Mic is Mono. So you'll have to somehow split the sound in post. I'll post again after I get off the phone with Rode... Unless someone gets there before me...
I have a Rode Videomic on my FX1. The sound is indeed in mono but the mic splits it and uses a stereo pin--you get the same mono track on both both of the Sony's stereo channels. Nice.
I've never had a problem with the two channels being at different levels. Yours sounds defective. Can you return it?
By the way, I do not believe there is any facility on the FX1 to adjust audio channels independently of one another--it is either auto or manual with a single adjustement wheel. No way to bias it in the menus either.
--Darin
Ron Evans May 23rd, 2006, 08:36 AM I too have the Rode mic. I had problems at first with nothing going to the FX1. But after stretching the cord out a little it now works just fine. I think that the cord pulls on the jack in the FX1 if there is not enough slack. You might try stretching it a little to make sure that it is not pulling on the jack and see if this solves the problem. Yes the manual says line but it is mic level!!!
Ron Evans
Brett Schofield May 24th, 2006, 07:47 PM Thanks guys, I will give this a go...I suppose its not all that bad only being on the right track though at least there is some audio there.....
Thanks
Brett
Brett Schofield May 24th, 2006, 09:40 PM Well i figured out what the problem was....I opened the microphone up only to discover the worst manufacturing I have seen from a well known reputable company I have seen in a long time.....
Inside there are 3 wires from the cable that are soldered to the main PC board.
The stranded earth wire, a Red and a White insulated wires.
The white one was half melted from the sodering iron being to close at installation. The Red has broken off because they did not strip back enough of the insualtion and did not tin the wires first. And the Earth wire almost looked corroded and in a really bad way. So I have since fixed it by chopping it all off and starting again and all works perfectly fine now!!!
Hope this helps others with a similar problem!!
Brett
Leo Pepingco May 25th, 2006, 04:54 AM I hope that hasnt killed your warranty.... it may be 200 bucks, but its a good 200...
Still, good on ya. And good luck mate.
Brett Schofield May 25th, 2006, 07:09 AM Dont really care that much about the warranty......The things fixed now and to tell you the truth, I did a better job fixing the thing than they did making it!!!
Thanks for the help though - all of you.
Brett
Brett Schofield May 25th, 2006, 07:10 AM I hope that hasnt killed your warranty.... it may be 200 bucks, but its a good 200...
Still, good on ya. And good luck mate.
PS - I got it for $130 when I bought the FX1!!!
Randy Chisolm June 23rd, 2006, 10:40 AM question, and it may sound extremely silly as I'm just now understanding the importance of having good audio but:
Am I correct in my assumption from what I've read so far that the Videomic is not xlr based - but in fact would work on the FX1 with no additional equipment?
Again, excuse the naiveté of this, but I just realized for this documentary of concert footage, that I'll need something better than the stock mic - correct? And the videomic seems to be the most viable option for my budget being I currently don't have the funds for both xlr + mic...
Tom Hardwick June 23rd, 2006, 11:47 AM The video mic isn't XLR, though Rode do make an adapter if you wanted to use it on the A1 or Z1, say.
The stock stereo mic is a goodie, but the Rode is a shotgun, so it is listening forwards rather than to left and right of the camera as the in-built mic is. Being a shotgun doesn't mean it hears from a distance though - it's still designed to be used close to the source of the noise - like all mics bar the parabolic reflector types.
tom.
Randy Chisolm June 23rd, 2006, 12:03 PM Hmmm...interesting, I think I'm just going to test the stock at first...especially because most of the recording will be centered on the talent and their set-up is usually amps and vocal equip spread equally on the left and right side. If it does look like I'll need one I'll pick up a videomic at B&H when I get to New York.
Thanks for the advice! Certainly puts me a bit more at ease...
Chad Martin June 23rd, 2006, 12:09 PM Randy, yes. The Videomic works with the FX1 without any additional equipment (it does need a 9v battery). Just mount the mic, plug the Rode Videomic mini-jack into your camera's mic input, adjust the camera's settings to use the external mic and you have yourself an acceptable shotgun mic.
It was a stretch to get the Videomic's cable to the FX1's jack input, but it does just barely make it.
I don't know if it's the best mic for concert footage, but it is better than the camera mic. Definitely use headphones to monitor the audio. I also think I've read on these forums that the Videomic is mono, but feeds the camera as stereo (with the same track twice, I guess). Although, you might search around on the forums to verify this.
Tom Hardwick June 23rd, 2006, 12:42 PM That's right Chad, it's a mono mic that's wired into a stereo mini plug. The same signal is recorded in phase on both audio channels, so appears to come out of the middle of your screen when you play back the tape on a stereo TV.
tom.
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