The HD200/HD250 are great, but does anyone have any details about new lenses from Fujinon or Canon? Surely there has to be some new lenses on the showroom floor but sadly, I can't find reports or any press releases from either of them about new 1/3" lenses. Say it ain't so!

The HD200/HD250 are great, but does anyone have any details about new lenses from Fujinon or Canon? Surely there has to be some new lenses on the showroom floor but sadly, I can't find reports or any press releases from either of them about new 1/3" lenses. Say it ain't so!

Tim,

They have a glass display with several new lenses from Canon and Fujinon.

Canon has a 19x for $10K and Fuji has a 17x for $10K and another lens but not sure what it was. The prices were quoted to me by a JVC rep (Cark Hicks who is on this board), I also my have the specs wrong but I remember the prices were between $8K - $10K.

Dan Weber

Dan,

What are the len's on the wide end?

It seems that the lenses announced are all 2/3" HD/studio lenses:

Canon YJ20x8.5B and YJ13x6B series (both 2/3" lenses), Fujinon HA16x6.3ERM (2/3" lens) and HA27x6.5ESM (HD studio lens).

So, no new lenses specifically for the 1/3" or 1/2" format?

The new lenses are for 1/3" for sure.

The wide ends on each is not besting the current 13x, though.

I saw the lenses there were three and the Rep said the mid lense is very simulare to the stock lense but it has better glass and will cost around 3k thats the facts, just got back today I was their for two days! ps not referring to you nate

I saw the lenses there were three and the Rep said the mid lense is very simulare to the stock lense but it has better glass and will cost around 3k thats the facts, just got back today I was their for two days! ps not referring to you nate

Will you have an option pay extra to have the new lens instead of the current stock lens?

The lens "picture" is:

There are 6 lenses (5 ENG) for the GY-HD100/200/250
1 Th16x55 Fujinon that ships with GY-HD100 since to began


2 Th13x35BRMU - Fujinon - $11,995 - shipping
3 HTs19x42BRM-M48 - Fujinon - maybe $10,800 - Maybe Sept 2006
4 Th17x5BRM - Fujinon - maybe $3,300 - Maybe Sept 2006
5 KT20x58KRS - Canon - maybe $10,000 - Maybe Nov 2006


6 Th17x5BRM-MD Fujinon motor drive for Pan/Tilt maybe $4000 maybe Sept2006

So 2 thru 5 are the optional lenses.

At this time the GY-HD250 is thought to be available late 2006 without lens and the GY-HD200 said "TBD" as a body only.

Thanks for the list Ken.

I guess the 13x lens that's now available is the KING of wide angle for all len's in the near future. I have a question about the adapter for 16mm lens'. When is it's expected delivery date?

Thanks everyone for reporting back.

Ken: In the Highway newsletter that JVC Europe puts out, they mentioned new 12X, 17X and 18X lenses from Fujinon and a single lens from Canon. Do you know if Fujinon killed the 12X?

Here's the newsletter:

http://www.jvcpro.co.uk/getResource2/jvc_highway_2.pdf?id=6201

I can't seem to find any info on the new lenses.... really depressing. Can anyone help or do I just need a lot more patience?

Canon's got a bunch of 1/2" lenses aimed at Sony XDCAM users, but will work for us with a 1/2" adaptor.

http://www.canon.com/bctv/products/index_hdgc.html

The 21x5.7 and the 10x3.6 are probably all we're concerned with. Beware the statistics on field of view and whatnot on the individual pages for the lenses, they're given for a 1/2" camera, a 1/3" camera would have a narrower field of view on that same lens.

The downside: Both lenses are about $25k. Each. Eek. Still... If you need 240mm of flawless telephoto (i.e. shooting sports or documentary) while still being able to come wide enough for general shooting, that's the lens for you.

Me, I'd rather wait till I can buy a lens that doesn't cost more than 2-4 times the price of the camera.

that's on of the reasons i'm interested in 1/3 inch lenses only: the weight and compacness, price, no 1 k dollar adapter needed, and no worries about field of view....

that's on of the reasons i'm interested in 1/3 inch lenses only: the weight and compacness, price, no 1 k dollar adapter needed, and no worries about field of view....

There was a thread during NAB that talked about the new lenses coming out. Some of them were demoed at NAB.

A key lens was the new 17x Fuji that is a little wider than the current lens and lists at $3K.

The others were around $8-10K.

Dan Weber

Daniel, awesome if that is the case, I was about to say this is the lens to watch for most of the JVC users, with the price bracket etc. And have the extra 1 x multiplication at the wide end. Still being real, not expecting it to beat a $10000 lens in quality, but obviously a improvement over the $800 lense!

And have the extra 1 x multiplication at the wide end.

It gets just as tight as the current lens, it just goes a little wider.

Daniel, awesome if that is the case, I was about to say this is the lens to watch for most of the JVC users, with the price bracket etc. And have the extra 1 x multiplication at the wide end. Still being real, not expecting it to beat a $10000 lens in quality, but obviously a improvement over the $800 lense!

Adam,

Yeah I asked the JVC rep in the NAB booth to compare the "free" lens, the new 17x ($3K) and the new higher end $10K lens (19x I believe).

He said that the 17x was a big improvement over the free lens, but not near what the $10K lens will be like. He put it on par with the current 13x lens.

Dan Weber

We just received the HA27x6.5ESM lens today, purchased for the long throw we need for sports shots, and it'll be in the field tomorrw for testing. If there's any interest, I'l post the results after the shoot.
Jonathan

that would be great Jonathon, is this a 2/3inch lens? Any and all footage is appreciated, especially as the standard lens as good as it is at it's price point, seems to be the achilles heel. And all other options are of great interest. I haven't checked today, but I think you were revamping your website? is this correct as it didn't have all the links it originally had the 1st time I visited it. Look forward to see the progress with the 2nd unit production. As always, appreciate your effort and time on the forum.

Daniel,
all I can say is October was it? Seems all to far away for the new units, and is it the lenses also? Did the rep say they are waiting for the new cameras or are the lenses being released prior?
looks like the overall zoom range is a little different, the 17x being 5 - 85, and the 16 x being 5.5 to 88.
In anycase, I'm sure I'll get to appreciate the 16x at the moment until then.

anybody know where the 17x ($3K) lens is being sold. What are the improvements in the lens? etc..

Yeah I asked the JVC rep in the NAB booth to compare the "free" lens, the new 17x ($3K) and the new higher end $10K lens (19x I believe).

He said that the 17x was a big improvement over the free lens, but not near what the $10K lens will be like. He put it on par with the current 13x lens.


Looking at the Fujinon designation for that 19x, it looks to be one really sweet all-purpose lens. It's HTs19x42BRM-M48, so the HTs prefix instead of the Th prefix must mean it's in the high-end HD range and it's pretty wide at 4.2 mm yet still goes all the way to 80 mm at telephoto.

Regarding the 17x, in post #8 of this thread Ken said it will not be out until maybe September of this year. So no one is selling it right now.

that would be great Jonathon, is this a 2/3inch lens? Any and all footage is appreciated, especially as the standard lens as good as it is at it's price point, seems to be the achilles heel. And all other options are of great interest. I haven't checked today, but I think you were revamping your website? is this correct as it didn't have all the links it originally had the 1st time I visited it. Look forward to see the progress with the 2nd unit production. As always, appreciate your effort and time on the forum.
Thanks for your "thank you". As for the site, we received so many ideas at NAB at our party and talking with both mfg reps and Board members afterward that we did a fiscal to see what it would cost us to enlarge and substantially modify the site to be the first Web TV site dealing directly with the independent filmmaker. The result is we decided to put the extra money into it to move it from a simple report on what can be done with the sub-$10k cameras to one that deals with a number of the issues that the independent filmmaker deals with today with guest commentators from the ASC, DGA, WGA and others. We really believe in education and that today's independent filmmaker is tomorrow's feature filmer. From books to boards, Douglas Spotted Eagle and others and Chris and Jared have done so much to educate the indie community through the written word that we felt a video site was in order that could, through it's guests, help educate future filkmmakers. It's not a Board but more a channel; a vehicle to drive education and interested people to Boards like this where they can discuss and expand on what they have seen on the channel. It's alot more money and time than we first envisioned and we've hired two more people to deal with it but we feel that the money will be well-spent and that the visitors will get alot out of it. As an example, Rush just finished producing a DVD set that, for lack of a better explanation, teaches prople how to be a better filmmaker. One of the segments is going to have Rush discussing that series and showing a bit of the lessons on-line and then telling people how they can find it if they're so inclined. Another will have George Dibie discussing how he really brought video to television with his innovative lighting and camerawork. A better explanation is at www.dvx-2ndunit.com and we hope you enjoy it when it comes out in June. But there's alot to do between now and then.

We just received the HA27x6.5ESM lens today, purchased for the long throw we need for sports shots, and it'll be in the field tomorrw for testing. If there's any interest, I'l post the results after the shoot.
Jonathan
I have to apologize. We received the Fujinon HA 21x7.8 BERM lens, not the HA 27 (bad handwriting on my part). That being said, the 21 is an incredible lens for the money. We tested today at Willow Springs in North LA County and what a clear HD result. I'll be posting some footage as soon as we figure out the best scheme to use in exporting footage for the web. Any suggestions from those of you who have posted some great footage here???

Adam,

Yeah I asked the JVC rep in the NAB booth to compare the "free" lens, the new 17x ($3K) and the new higher end $10K lens (19x I believe).

He said that the 17x was a big improvement over the free lens, but not near what the $10K lens will be like. He put it on par with the current 13x lens.

Dan Weber

If it's on par with the 13x, then that's good enough for me. Makes me wonder how the $10k lens is.

If it's on par with the 13x, then that's good enough for me. Makes me wonder how the $10k lens is.

Is Ken Freed's list still accurate? I'm sure the prices aren't, but how about inventory? Anything new?

Is Ken Freed's list still accurate? I'm sure the prices aren't, but how about inventory? Anything new?

Prices as per BH photo video out of NY as of today.. just checked. pic of the Th17x5BRM doesn't look right.. probably just a webpage thing...

Th13x35BRMU - Fujinon - $6,599 - in stock
HTs18x42BRM-M48 - Fujinon - (NOT 19x) $8,999 special order 2-4 weeks
Th17x5BRM - Fujinon - maybe $2,999 - special order 7-14 days
KT20x58KRS - Canon - maybe $8,999 - special order