View Full Version : "The Ten Commandments"... looked like bad VHS on ABC-HD
Boyd Ostroff April 15th, 2006, 07:49 PM When I saw they were showing this tonight I thought it might be fun to watch since it's been a long time. But when I went to the ABC-HD channel I was surprised to see that they were presenting it in really poor quality pillarboxed 4:3. According to IMDB it was originally released as 1.85:1, then later re-released as 2.20:1. http://imdb.com/title/tt0049833/technical
What a disappointment! This makes me think that wide adoption of HD may be further off than I had thought....
(EDIT) Hmm... as an afterthought... perhaps it was just the local (Philadelphia) outlet that was showing the movie and not the network?
Michael OKeefe April 15th, 2006, 07:54 PM Unfortunately, no. My local ABC affiliate has had commercials for weeks about it- I'm dissapointed to hear that it's not using 16x9, and indeed, that the quality is so poor.
Boyd Ostroff April 15th, 2006, 08:01 PM Well then, "rasberries" to ABC for such a poor job!
David Jimerson April 16th, 2006, 08:49 AM Biggger raspberries for that even worse remake.
Edward Slonaker April 16th, 2006, 10:22 AM Well, thank goodness. I thought I was being overly critical when I could only take the first 10 minutes of the cheezy acting before deleting both parts off my TiVo. That and the bad video quality made for a very disappointing remake.
Michael Wisniewski April 16th, 2006, 10:36 AM My neighbor and his family watched the whole thing on their new widescreen TV. Not only was it mangled and cropped for 4:3 but then their TV re-stretched back to 16:9. Talk about crashing consumer standards. The humanity, the humanity ...
Boyd Ostroff April 16th, 2006, 11:49 AM Actually that's interesting... if I watch regular analog channels, or SD digital channels then I can choose the screen format (full, zoom, stretch, etc), but if I watch an HD broadcast then none of those options are available, you have to watch it in 16:9 mode. So in the case of that program I had 4:3 pillarboxed inside the 16:9 frame.
Michael Wisniewski April 16th, 2006, 02:13 PM Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not connected properly. But I'm diplomatically not saying anything about it, until I can pull my neighbor aside privately.
Jim Arthurs April 29th, 2006, 05:25 PM You know, the "Ten Commandments" was shot on VistaVision... 35mm 8 perf (just like 35mm still camera film frame size) moving sideways through the camera. Amazing sharpness, closer to 65mm in image area but cheaper to shoot. So, it's a great pity that more care isn't given in the transfer to HD.
About ten years ago a local theatre showed a print of it over the Easter weekend... it was terrific, so I know better can be done with it.
I have fond memories of that movie on TV when I was young... I think it was the first thing I saw on -gasp- COLOR TV... also gave me my interest in visual effects...
Regards,
Jim Arthurs
Alexander Benesch June 4th, 2006, 06:30 PM Amateurism? Or were they too cheap to give it the necessary attention?
Boyd Ostroff June 4th, 2006, 06:53 PM How do you like the quality of this "restored" version? :-)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CJBsyePY8zQ&search=ten%20commandments
Christopher Lefchik June 4th, 2006, 10:00 PM The last time I caught The Ten Commandments on network "HD" television (don't remember which network it was) it was aired in 4:3. I didn't even know it had been originally shot in widescreen. At least the network didn't air it pillerboxed, which meant I could watch it fullscreen on our 4:3 HD CRT.
And I can't believe someone would even contemplate remaking The Ten Commandments. There are some movies that just can't be redone.
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