but wait the Gl2 in Japan (XV2) has always been Slate gray... please not a cruel tease at this stage?Now would I do such a thing? And if I would do such a thing, at least it gets us thinking and talking, right...?

The XV2 has always been slate gray? What, you mean this ain't the GL3? Are we sure about that? D'oh!

Maybe Sony is putting out custom color cameras, can I please have one in yellow with black stripes?

Now would I do such a thing? And if I would do such a thing, at least it gets us thinking and talking, right...?

The XV2 has always been slate gray? What, you mean this ain't the GL3? Are we sure about that? D'oh!

if you go to some Japen Canon sites it looks just like the XV2. But on the first picture Chris posted the LCD is different.

That pic looks like the Japanese black version of the GL2. Yes, in Japan, you can get the black one like the Pana Black Mamba a couple years back. Only in Japan. :-(

ok,,,I just checked Canon's website and they extended the GL2 $250 rebate till sept 30, 2006!! What the h#%$ kind of crap is that? At least give $500 or something new.
How long are they going to hang on to this camera? I'm sure it is a good camcorder, maybe update it or something. Maybe they will still come out with a new one too,,,,but it doesn't look like it.

The early thumbnail - I dont think thats a GL3 - looks like a photoshop to me - and hence why no larger pictures

ok,,,I just checked Canon's website and they extended the GL2 $250 rebate till sept 30, 2006!! What the h#%$ kind of crap is that? At least give $500 or something new.
How long are they going to hang on to this camera? I'm sure it is a good camcorder, maybe update it or something. Maybe they will still come out with a new one too,,,,but it doesn't look like it.

This is insane- how many can they still be selling???, mine went the day the FX1 came out, since then i've picked up a Z1 and A1 as well. So how far can they stretch this 'loyal' Canon fan??
I Know they have a history of keeping future releases under wraps, but if they ARE ever going to get a HDV GL2 up and running at least give us a clue.

This is insane-....... So how far can they stretch this 'loyal' Canon fan??


Damn reet Paul!! Damn Reet!!

I actually just bought 2 of em for the first time just the other day...

Not to mention, I've been waiting to see their their for years (not that it is going to be worth the money by how they are charging now).

I think the answer is that the Mpeg4 and h264 issue has thrown a spanner in the works.

I think Japanese companies pursued a line of under nourished HDTV codec cameras and got caught off guard by the rising capability of processing technology, as it became obvious that HDV was not as seamless quality as MiniDV. Processing speed increases were slowing down, so they might have been planing to pursue Mpeg 2 with things like XDCAMHD. But then advances in multiprocessing would have caused them to access old Mpeg4. The rise of low cost and powered processing arrays, caused an American company (Ambarella) to leapfrog competitors and come out with a low cost (hopefully quality) H264 product that leap frogged their competitors. I understand they Japanese were surprised to see it. The HDTV industry in Europe started questioning the use of Mpeg4 for HDTV, and now the industry has defined pro H264 for broadcast (maybe it had something to do with the Ambarella tech as well). All these things could have caused delays in camera releases as they were accessed.

I suspect that Panasonic might have known something that caused them to go the h264 route much earlier.

The Ambarella cameras did not come out in March, as intended. They have wither started manufacture of chips and are stockpiling for a number of camera releases, or they are yet to ramp up production and only a few cameras will be able to be released this year in quantity. I think it is likely, that only a few consumer/low end prosumer H264 cameras will be released this year.

I have always heard that panasonic makes the guts of canon cameras. If this is true I would imagine the GL3 to be right around the corner and to be very much like the HVX200 (only hdv) in footprint and capabilities and probably(hopefully) different CCDs, and of course a canon lens. As far as a P2 like recording medium is concerned, I think canon is stickin to tape.

Someone posted this at the other place:

http://cweb.canon.jp/prodv/xhg1/index.html

Now thats much more like it!

Have you looked at the specs?

It has a full cine curve for stretching the greyscale for more range. Nice!

And the full colour matrix adjustments of the H1!

HD-SDI out, and genlock/timecode, XLR sockets etc! And the pictures on the specs page clearly show it is the G1 with these sockets on!

I think I'm gonna like this camera!

At last!!
Thank God it's tape based HDV!

Not up on the US site yet, anybody know of a press event in the US / UK today?Soon?

Wow

Wow is right!

So, that Canon purchase of a 24p license might mean full resolution progressive scan?

Also notice that the pictures of the cameras have 2 rings. Possibly one for iris/zoom, and one for focus?

2 rings!! aRGGGGHHH

And it looks like they are slotting in 2 models. 2 models! Intersting.

Front end is 72mm? Sheeet that means the WD58 is off?