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Saturnin Kondratiew
July 31st, 2006, 01:51 PM
lol, your english is fine!!!

ok if i hold the merlin wihout the camera it tilts down
merlin with camera tilts down


btw, i'm not sure if you use msn but i added you :p

Pieter Mali
July 31st, 2006, 02:21 PM
Finally I succeeded to put some QuickTime-movies on my "website".

It are some shots I took during a family holiday in France, using the Merlin. It are extracts from an iMovie, so sometimes the added music just starts somewhere in the middle ..

As others keep saying, you do need to practice a lot with the Merlin:
- how to mount your camera to the mounting plate (so that the horizon of your lcd screen is horizontal if the airbubble on the mounting plate is in the middle). Here I added two 1 eurocent coins on one side, not beautiful, but effective (this is important if you switch to a tripod)
- how to quickly balance ( if you want to change tilt for different shots), also during shooting. this also includes switching between a tripod and the Merlin (the tripod plate works fine, although I can't understand why there is no hole for the fixing pin of the tripod in the tripod plate)
- how to keep fast moving objects (in particularly children) within the viewfinder (I can't remember the word for this)
- how to plan your shots (in particular if you want to edit, you may want a still start and a still ending of the shot).

What I like about the footage, is that it adds a 3D-effect as near objects move faster that remote objects. It is much more dynamic than footage taken with a tripod. What I also like, is booming. With a handheld camera you actually can't do this (or is very hard), and with a tripod you always get the tilt. I have added one clip on my website (merlinboom).

On the website below, I have put some simple clips taken with the Merlin. the clip TwoHalfMinutes is an extract of the complete holiday movie (1 second per clip, each clip is or Merlin or tripod, no handfilming):

www.xs4all.nl/~mali99

You will need Quicktime to watch them.

Hope you can enjoy.


Pieter

Saturnin Kondratiew
July 31st, 2006, 03:06 PM
ok i think i have it set again... although it takes a little longer than a second to comback to level....hmmm

Mikko Wilson
July 31st, 2006, 04:39 PM
Ok, sounds like you aren't quite bottom heavy enough.
Turn the "Z" adjustment (the guide ring aroudn the gimble) clockwise (up) to move the gimble up a little. This should make the drop time a little faster.

Then use teh blue trim rollers to correct for tilt.

- Mikko

Saturnin Kondratiew
July 31st, 2006, 04:51 PM
the z has been adjusted to the very top no slack...

...just out of curiosity, thre is no way to avoid rocking left-right with quick whip pan/dolly movments, is there? I have to hold with two hands, one on gimbal one on the grip, ya?

thanks

Mikko Wilson
July 31st, 2006, 05:11 PM
Correct.

When ever you move quickly, it will want to wobble *just a little* like a pendulum, and that's one thing you learn to compensate for with time.

And yes, using 2 hands to hold and control the Merlin is recomended.

- Mikko

Saturnin Kondratiew
July 31st, 2006, 05:13 PM
wicked deal, now i have to keep this paper wif the info safe so i dont loos eit agian, lol...

Stephen Armour
July 31st, 2006, 08:21 PM
Bought a Merlin a month ago. Discovered as soon as I began to train with it, that bad backs and Merlin's don't mix! Oh, the pain of it all...

Will soon be training a younger, stronger body to carry it. I think it really does work, but the learning curve seems pretty steep to me. If they can get it right, it looks like a serious tool for serious film makers, but definitely not for wedding-type or casual videographers. Too little cost-benefit unless you're seeking to impress someone.

Maybe I'll have more to say after I teach someone to use it...

Stephen Armour - Brazil

Mikko Wilson
August 1st, 2006, 11:20 AM
Stephen,
Unless you have serious back troubles, operating the Merlin should not hurt your back. You might want to check yoru posture when operating.
For example you should be walking normally with the rig, not with your legs or back bent. (There is a common misconception that a Steadicam operator has to "glide" with their body for the system to work. This it not true, the system is there to take out the bumps so you don't have to.)
Now there are some manuvers that you can do with a Merlin, such as a really low shot, that may be limeted by back pain.

Try using the rig again, but walk the way you normally do, so that it (hopefully!) doesn't hurt. Of course if it does hurt, then stop. But I'm of the oppinion that practically anyone can operate a Merlin basically, even if they arn't flexible enough to get absoloutly everything out of the rig.

- Mikko

Michael Donne
August 1st, 2006, 02:23 PM
I would say that with heavier cams like my fx1, any back problems could be exacerbated if you try to fly for too long as a beginner, because as the arm fatigues the back arches and the neck and shoulder tenses, trying to compensate for an arm that isnt up to it.....not exactly Merlins fault.

I got a merlin 1 week ago , partially thanks to Mikko's advice (by the way Mikko, my shoot was postponed so thankfully i have more than my anticipated week to perfect it!!). I had it set up and balanced quite well inside an hour and went out to play.

Within a very short time my forearm was feeling fatigued.. I didnt give up soon enough though because some time later strain in my arm and wrist became apparent and i had to take the next day off from the Merlin!

I notice subsequently that I have to be quite aware of not tilting and flexing at the wrist, i think maybe subconciously trying to steer it as i move around.

I am finding it easier than expected to use in every way except for how limited a time i can practice in one go due to fatigue.

I have been frustrated at not being able to improve on my initial trimming in order to eradicate very slight pendulum effect when moving side-to-side or front-to-back but reading Mikko's earlier post maybe that will always be present when operator movement is anything other than slow. I figure i must be bottom heavy, my drop is only barely a second, but i notice if i move sideways the penduluming starts by the cam lagging slightly behind the weights...maybe thats aerodynamics (!!) but my logic would expect the opposite?

Overall though i'm very impressed with the 'steadying' effect the merlin has...makes a joke of my home made steady devices and im glad i spent the money rather than going for a fig-rig.

Donald White
August 4th, 2006, 06:03 PM
I've had my Merlin for a couple of months, but haven't used it much with my older Sony cam - I've put my name on the list for the new Canon XH A1. Any thoughts or input about how this might fly with the weight, etc? Should I consider a larger rig?

Another question considering the previous post - is there a system with an arm and a vest that will connect with the Merlin? I read that there was one in the works...

I will also work on getting together some footage and learning how to post it to the site...

Don

Mikko Wilson
August 4th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Based on the weight and shape of the camera, I'm confident that the Canon A1 and G1 will fly perfectly on the Merlin. I think they will handle similarly to the FX1.

I understand that there is a lightweight vest & arm in the works for the Merlin. But I don't know any more than that.

- Mikko

Michael Donne
August 5th, 2006, 04:10 AM
i dont know anything about this vest except what i noticed here

http://www.varizoom.com/products/stabilizers/vzdvsport.html

While not listing the Merlin, it may be worth asking them !

Given most of these systems seem to support the stabiliser by a 'pole' up the handle, i'm interested to know if the Merlin handle is up to the job anyway...

i've been tempted to rig a lighting stand with a manfrotto arm so i could rest the fx1 on merlin onto it via a pole into the tube that runs up the handle.....the shop where i got the merlin said i could do this, but i've been nervous of the strength of construction on the merlin handle.

Does anyone know if this is safe with an fx1?

Mikko Wilson
August 5th, 2006, 08:14 AM
The Merlin should be fully exchangebale with the JR on 3rd party support systems.

The hole in the handle is in deed created for docking. There is a docking bracket available from Tiffen. You can also dock the Merlin on a Flyer or Archer (as I do with mine) balancing stand.

You can actually fly the Merlin on a Flyer arm!

- Mikko

Donald White
August 5th, 2006, 08:47 AM
That's exciting - & gets the old mind a'workin.
The Steadicam site shows the vest priced separately, but not the arm... can you get it without the sled too?

Also, since I'm a big guy with a long torso - are there big differences in how the vests fit as far as the adjustments & comfort? I'm wanting to take the next step with a stabilizer system & therefore looking at all options - the only system I've seen locally is the Navigator.

Thanks,
Don

Tom Wills
August 5th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Nope, Unluckily the Flyer arm can't be sold without the sled and vest. Trust me, I've tried.

Donald White
August 5th, 2006, 02:42 PM
well shucks! I thought I could get my foot in the door by purchasing a piece at a time...

thanks.

Tom Wills
August 5th, 2006, 02:50 PM
You sure can do that, but you just won't get yourself a Flyer. It's real easy to find some old sled parts, arm parts, and vest parts, and begin putting together a rig for yourself. Heck, it only took me 2 days to source a topstage and a dovetail plate for my rig when mine stopped working.

David Cuebas
August 6th, 2006, 05:44 PM
I have been flying a Sony HDR-HC1 on the Merlin. Of course, I did some rough shots around the house to get the feel and setup of Merlin. My first real practice run was, literally, running around chasing my friend's dogs. It's one thing to follow people; you kinda know what they are going to do. Following dogs is a whole different experience.

You can check out one of my chase shots here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5387182235982911777&hl=en

The shot starts out by walking behind or next to the dog. He tries to lose me by walking faster, then by running, but I'm able to keep up with him and (more or less) keep him in frame.

I'm going to upload some more Merlin videos soon.

Greg Watts
August 6th, 2006, 06:50 PM
That's some nice footage. I'd be very concerned that the dog would stop suddenly and run at me. Bad things happen when the dog does that if you're not ready. :) Good stuff.

Cheers!

Tom McDougal
August 7th, 2006, 07:05 AM
nice dogs...nice flying :)

Mikko Wilson
August 7th, 2006, 02:01 PM
Good looking footage there David.
Still some tameing to do on the operating. Though the faster shots looked good. - Faster is easier than slow, though.

Just be carefull when running around like that, you mind is busy shooting and you can easily trip and fall.

It's always a good idea to scout out and rehearse running shots if possible - or at least know the area. Can't rehearse with dogs, but it's your own back yard which you know well I presume. :)


Thanks for the footage and keep on shooting!

- Mikko

Armin DeFiesta
August 8th, 2006, 06:43 AM
Great flying David! I'm loving my Merlin. I recently filmed a wedding with it and got all kinds of curious looks. Even the photographer was simply amazed (he also does videography) and is thinking of getting one too after seeing me fly mine the event. Post up some more footage David!

Kris Holodak
August 8th, 2006, 01:14 PM
I signed up for DVChallenge #5 for the express purpose of practicing with my Merlin before I needed to do anything real for work.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4670970093702992570&q=heron+media

I was happy enough with it for my first effort that I pulled it out for a real work project later. It just got posted to be the first episode of a podcast, so to be honest I'm not sure if the direct link will work, but here it is. The merlin work comes near the end. I shot with it more than ended up getting used. But the one follow shot we did use I liked.
http://podcast.rbn.com/kennedy/artsedge/download/concert_hall_tour.m4v

Paul Leung
August 9th, 2006, 02:15 AM
I signed up for DVChallenge #5 for the express purpose of practicing with my Merlin before I needed to do anything real for work.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4670970093702992570&q=heron+media

I was happy enough with it for my first effort that I pulled it out for a real work project later. It just got posted to be the first episode of a podcast, so to be honest I'm not sure if the direct link will work, but here it is. The merlin work comes near the end. I shot with it more than ended up getting used. But the one follow shot we did use I liked.
http://podcast.rbn.com/kennedy/artsedge/download/concert_hall_tour.m4v

Hi Kris,

Nice video of the Kennedy Center! What cameras do you use? Lighting is very good!

David Cuebas
August 9th, 2006, 04:54 AM
Good looking footage there David.
Still some tameing to do on the operating. Though the faster shots looked good. - Faster is easier than slow, though.

Just be carefull when running around like that, you mind is busy shooting and you can easily trip and fall.

It's always a good idea to scout out and rehearse running shots if possible - or at least know the area. Can't rehearse with dogs, but it's your own back yard which you know well I presume. :)


Thanks for the footage and keep on shooting!

- Mikko

Thanks to everyone for their feedback! Yes, I still need some practice controlling the movement and framing. And I know what you mean about scouting the location. Fortunately, like you said, Mikko, I do know this yard and the way these dogs run. I was not too worried about the dog stopping and turning on me. In the video when he did stop and turn, I was far enough behind him to control my moves and not run over him. (Kinda hard keeping up with a husky, even without a camera!)

I will definitely share some more videos. I just need to put some footage together.

Kris: That was a fun video! And it's true: we do pamper our dogs more than ourselves! ;-)

Kris Holodak
August 9th, 2006, 05:38 AM
What cameras do you use? Lighting is very good!

Hey Paul, glad you liked it. We used 2 Panosonic DVX100a cameras and mostly available light. I made one of the guys cart around a Rifa softbox, but only ended up using it in the Hall of Nations, sitting in the audience seats in the concert hall, and when he's on the phone with his boss. I'm surprised I got away with that, but I'm glad I could because it kept things moving. Apart from bringing in a real sound guy, my crew were all people from the web team.

Smile,
Kris

Pieter Mali
August 9th, 2006, 11:36 AM
On my website, I have put a 2.45 min QuickTime movie with a compilation of Merlin shots. they were taken during holiday, mainly of my kids walking & running around.

I own the Merlin since two months, I practiced mainly during the two weeks holiday. The lens was not very clean, I found out (too late).

Enjoy: http://www.xs4all.nl/~mali99/Merlin%20movies/MerlinMovie.mov

Pieter

Saturnin Kondratiew
August 13th, 2006, 11:21 PM
i tried running with the merline a day ago...what an nightmare....it was all over the place. Lol... slowly loosing interest......... :(

Pieter Mali
August 17th, 2006, 03:23 PM
..And what camera's are you flying on it?

Any reviews, photos or video?


There's a lot of talk about it, and I end up fielding a lot of questions, but I'd really love to hear back from those of you who have them now.
How are you using them? Impressions, 'war stories', coments for those considering getting one, or just starting out using one...

- Mikko

Some Merlin footage (already posted, but in the wrong place, I am afraid, as there were no reactions):

http://www.xs4all.nl/~mali99/Merlin%20movies/MerlinMovie.mov

Mikko Wilson
August 17th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Pieter,
That looks REALLY good!

There's a little bit of sobble and some bumps in some of those shots, but that's ok.

Your video really demonstrates the potential of the Merlin - I love all those height changes. The world is so different from a child's level! Very ncie smooth boom up shot in the middle there too.

Good stuff!

- Mikko

Pieter Mali
August 18th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Pieter,
That looks REALLY good!

There's a little bit of sobble and some bumps in some of those shots, but that's ok.

Your video really demonstrates the potential of the Merlin - I love all those height changes. The world is so different from a child's level! Very ncie smooth boom up shot in the middle there too.

Good stuff!

- Mikko

Thanks! You just made my day.

Biggest challenge with children I find the framing: if they walk towards you, they will always try to evade you and walk to the right or left side, so you must be able to run backwards pretty fast and simultaneously avoid tripping.

Pieter

David Cuebas
August 24th, 2006, 12:52 AM
I put together some footage I shot at the lake for a friend's retirement "cruise" on her houseboat. It is a mix of Steadicam Merlin and handheld shots taken from the houseboat and later from a speed boat.

Wind and choppy water were definitely a challenge, but I have to admit, the Merlin shots from the speed boat came out better than expected. At one point, I was on the speed boat and we were pacing the houseboat at probably 20-30 mph, so there was quite a bit of wind during the bumpy ride.

The last segment of the video (during the song "Lovely Cruise") was handheld during a 360 of the houseboat. I wish I used Merlin on that shot, but there were some zooms that I cut for this video. (Hmmm, a reshoot may be a good excuse to go back to the lake...) ;-)

The "Boat Mix" of my Lake Cruise:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4752298797840803046&hl=en (.flv, 35.1MB)

Stephen Armour
August 25th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Am training two guys to use the Merlin with a Sony HVR-A1U (larger battery, original Sony mic with "Armour mod" reversal to it, and orginal sunshade).

After a couple of hours, I challenged them to try to do an "upstairs-downstairs-with-90-degree-turn-in-middle" sequence, both with and without the Merlin, to show off it's smooth action and convince them it's well worth the effort and money. Even though they did their best to make smooth non-Merlined sequences, after watching those two scenes on a larger TV, they were sold!

I'll try to post a couple of clips if I find the time.

BTW, it was somewhat of a pit to set up, but once we found the "sweet spot" for that particular combination, it was VERY NICE. Not perfect, but VERY VERY NICE. If you haven't flown one, find someone with one correctly setup and try it. You'll thank yourself.

Stephen Armour (Lion Cub Productions - Brazil)

Steve Madsen
September 6th, 2006, 03:08 AM
Hi all,

I've just bought the Merlin and I'm getting nasty jolt in my footage with each step...any thoughts on how to fix this?

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/showphoto.php/photo/2232/cat/500/ppuser/991

Thanks

Greg Watts
September 6th, 2006, 05:02 AM
Looks like you're holding the guide ring too tightly which is causing your motion to transfer to the camera. Just gently keep your guide hand barely touching it and that jarring should go away.

Mikko Wilson
September 6th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Steve,
It does appear that you are holding something a little too tight and that's transfering motion.

Also check to make sure that everything is tight on the rig. If you can, use the G-platz screw to stiff up the camera to the stage.

- Mikko

Steve Madsen
September 9th, 2006, 05:41 AM
Greg and Mikko, thanks.

It looks like a little tightening did the job. I seriously digging this piece of hardware. Now to try some running shots...