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Matt Trubac
March 6th, 2006, 09:44 PM
My interest in audio led to my introduction to video. Because of this I tend to take audio very seriously. To me getting the best audio is more important than getting a good picture, though I strive to get both. Good audio makes a video infinitely better.

Joe Barker
March 6th, 2006, 10:24 PM
I dont see what the problem is fitting a mic to a bride. Either cover the lavier in fabric similar to the dress,or color with paint so its not distracting.Now the fun part is fitting the mic between her boobs.That all depends on what type of dress and bra setup she's wearing. Sure, you might get a bit of squelching when she walks, but during the important vows , she'll hardly be moving.

Glenn Davidson
March 6th, 2006, 10:42 PM
The 'squelching' will be when you try to fit her with the mic and body pack. Let's see...do they make tulle colored stage tape?

Travis Cossel
March 6th, 2006, 10:54 PM
I'd like to see video of when a videographer explains to a bride that he would like to place a mic between her breasts.

Robert M Wright
March 6th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Of course, Mr. Videographer explaining to the groom where he'd like to place that mic would make for more of an action scene.

Travis Cossel
March 6th, 2006, 11:09 PM
LOL, no doubt. I'm thinking about promoting the "boob mic" service on my website from now on . . . complete with a free fitting session . . .

Miguel Lombana
March 7th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Matt, thanks for that clip. I think you are the only one to point out the reason why micing the groom works for all three. The mic near the groom's pocket or flower keeps it far enough from his mouth that it reduces overmodulation. The bride is usually shorter and facing directly toward the mic. This keeps her levels fairly high. The officiants are accustomed to speaking before a crowd. They may almost be too loud all the way over at the groom's lapel. Any mic that is more than 6 inches from a person's mouth will pick up other people in the room coughing, so you really can't work around the sick and the dying (that's what it seems like sometimes). Why can't people go hack up a loogy outside?

Be careful with the flowers - I have a wonderful clip of groom audio brushing up against his corsage where everytime he moves you get a nice crunching sound from the mic as it rubs the flower. This is not something that you can pull out in post either especially when someone is talking at the same time.

ML

Travis Cossel
March 7th, 2006, 12:13 AM
I was using an iPod at a wedding once as a trial to see what kind of sound I could get from it. The officiant, two minutes before the ceremony was supposed to start, was fiddling with it in his pocket for some reason and pulled the cord for the mic right out of the iPod. I got no sound from it and it was the last test I did with it.

d:-)

Marcus Marchesseault
March 7th, 2006, 04:31 AM
Yes, put the mic NEAR the flower, but don't let it touch anything. Also, don't even think of putting the mic inside clothing as it will likely sound like someone is bailing hay during your video. Yes, with time and just the right application, you could devise a way to put the mic inside, but there isn't time to go through all that before a wedding. The bride and groom have other things to think about.

Steve House
March 7th, 2006, 09:47 AM
I'd like to see video of when a videographer explains to a bride that he would like to place a mic between her breasts.

Yet it is a very common placement of lavs for theatrical and broadcast productions. For example, I saw on another discussion site a mention by Mick Fowler that that's where he often mics the female principals on "CSI." Of course, they and their wardrobe assistants have been taught how to do the actual placing of the mics themselves. But you might be surprised how matter of factly many women would treat such an option if presented in a professional manner as just one more of several options for them to choose from, each with their own pros and cons.

Peter Jefferson
March 7th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Matt,


A note to Peter, your mics could not cause feedback unless they went through the PA. They might cause drop outs or splitting but not feedback.

Sam Gates
I know dude, thing is THEY DIDNT... GGRRRR

Marcus Marchesseault
March 8th, 2006, 07:28 AM
I had a situation that seemed similar to this EXCEPT, when I turned off my mic, the feedback stopped. It gets even stranger. The feedback was in the PA, obviously. It only happened when the priest approached the podium mic. Why he went to the podium mic, when he was wearing a lav, I don't know. This was one of my first one-man weddings and I had a cheap lav. I don't see how this could happen, but maybe our wireless frequencies were clashing? How could my lav, similar to the priest's lav, cause feedback in the PA? I don't believe it is possible, but when it was shut off the feedback stopped.

I switched to a Lectrosonics wireless years ago and never have any problems.

Mike Cook
March 9th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Ok, in response to the interest in this topic, I soon will be introducing:

THE BRA-MAPHONE!

Each cup will incorporate a high quality, professional omni directional microphone for stereo reception. Our ingenious intergrated bra strap/antenna system will insure perfect reception even during ham radio conventions. The transmitter inself will be encased in our patented "gel-packs" for those brides who want a "little more" on thier special day.

Remember gents, speak into the microphones.....

Mike

Travis Cossel
March 9th, 2006, 01:10 PM
I can only imagine where the actually mic is on the cup . . .

Mike Cook
March 9th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Travis,

typo on your website. Page "Marketing Solutions Services"

"guerrilla marketing consulations"

I think your missing a T

Mike

Travis Cossel
March 9th, 2006, 07:07 PM
You mean you've never had a marketing consulation? d:-)

Thanks for the catch.

Steve House
March 10th, 2006, 05:16 AM
I can only imagine where the actually mic is on the cup . . .

I think it's clipped on the bra where the two cups are joined together over the sternum and there's a natural space formed in the cleavage. Could be inside or outside the bra depending on her endowment, the cup style, and the type of outer garment worn.

Marcus Marchesseault
March 10th, 2006, 06:49 AM
I hesitate to partake in silliness regarding bosoms...but here goes...

Can the Bramaphone be used in reverse as a stereo parabolic mic? Is there a sports model available for rough service?

Trying to mic the bride seems a bit absurd to me. I'm pretty sure trying to put a mic on a bride would allow me to find out the grip strength of a 385 pound Samoan male. I'll just be happy not knowing that information.

Steve House
March 10th, 2006, 09:50 AM
I hesitate to partake in silliness regarding bosoms...but here goes...

Can the Bramaphone be used in reverse as a stereo parabolic mic? Is there a sports model available for rough service?

Trying to mic the bride seems a bit absurd to me. I'm pretty sure trying to put a mic on a bride would allow me to find out the grip strength of a 385 pound Samoan male. I'll just be happy not knowing that information.

ROFLMAO - very true. Only said it was a workable way to place a hidden lav on a female - never said it was very smart to offer to place it there yourself (unless you are a female videographer). But it's a rare woman that is embarassed by the fact she HAS a cleavage or that people notice she has one. We men tend to be more sensitive about such things than they are.

Marcus Marchesseault
March 10th, 2006, 06:54 PM
Perhaps micing the bride is something to be attempted successfully by certain videographers. I agree that many women don't mind most people noticing their cleavage. Unfortunately, I am not one of those people. This is a surprisingly small island socially, so I don't think I will confront the issue why women don't want me noticing their assets. I'll just mic the groom.

Steve House
March 11th, 2006, 01:10 PM
Actually I think the real issue in micing the bride would be more of where to hide the transmitter than where to hide the mic. The all-white version of the Countryman B6 is so tiny - 2.5mm across by about 4 mm long - that it could go almost anywhere and be invisible to anyone who didn't know it was there. It could be disguised as a seed pearl on the bodice of the dress for example or taped to the fabric just inside the neckline or in a button hole

Marcus Marchesseault
March 13th, 2006, 11:28 PM
I do a lot of outdoor weddings and have learned (painfully) that I must keep a windscreen in place. This makes the mic too large to ever hide on a bride. For indoor weddings, it might work if transmitters get really small. Wedding gowns seem to be rather tight in fashion, so I haven't seen a place to put a transmitter anywhere near their current size.

Matt Trubac
March 14th, 2006, 08:30 AM
this is for guitar, but something like it may be along the right lines of a transmitter to hide on a bride.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Microphones/Wireless?sku=271148