View Full Version : Check This Out -- My Stolen Clips
Mark Von Lanken February 4th, 2006, 10:38 PM Checkout these clips because you may just find some that you recognize from your own work. Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips. Of course he changed the music, so the visuals don't match the music. The three that are mine are, Misty Cry, Unforgetable and Sunburst.
http://www.integrityvideo.com/Page%206-Video%20Gallery.htm
Travis Cossel February 4th, 2006, 11:08 PM I'm confused. Are you saying this place is using your footage without your permission?
Jason Bowers February 4th, 2006, 11:55 PM Mark,
Have you contacted this person, because this is direct copyright violation and could potentially be sued for posting your work and claiming it as his own. Not to mention that he is blatantly misrepresenting his company to his clients by suggesting that he can produce the creativity of your videos in his own work. Please keep us posted on your progress because this is a major violation of trust among videographers and posting our work on this site.
A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006, 12:12 AM the "steadycam" clip is from a vendor.
i love that they're called "integrity video". nice touch.
Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006, 02:13 AM Morrison, Melzin melmorrison2005@yahoo.com
PO BOX 4171
Westminster, CA 92683
714-379-3804
Hrm
Glen Elliott February 5th, 2006, 11:09 AM Checkout these clips because you may just find some that you recognize from your own work. Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips. Of course he changed the music, so the visuals don't match the music. The three that are mine are, Misty Cry, Unforgetable and Sunburst.
http://www.integrityvideo.com/Page%206-Video%20Gallery.htm
"Integrity" Video- if I didn't know any better I'd think this entire site was a jest. How ironic!
Mark I'm sorry this happened to you. Kinda make you want to place a watermark right smack-dab in the middle of your training material clips. The three that are yours don't seem to link anywhere now. I'd have mr.integrity remove the thumbnails too beings that's your work as well.
Let us know what happens and how your coorespondence goes.
Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006, 11:33 AM No they work, just have to save as, he's got some JAVA errors on that page..
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 5th, 2006, 12:38 PM Mark- Have you contacted this person yet...and if so, what did they have to say? I would be steamin' if someone was fronting my work as their own!
Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006, 01:12 PM I'm confused. Are you saying this place is using your footage without your permission?
Hi Travis,
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. He took clips from my training materials, changed the music, covered up my watermark with his own and is passing it off as his own work. I really feel sorry for Brides that book him based on samples from other videographers, because obviously, he is not able to shoot or edit like me or anyone else he has stolen work from.
Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006, 01:14 PM Hi Guys,
Thanks for all of your support. No, I haven't contacted him yet. I don't want him to pull the clips until the other videographers that he has ripped off get a chance to view the clips. Like I said, there are 8 wedding clips and only 3 of them are mine.
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 5th, 2006, 01:34 PM Mark, I just searched this guy on the net, there's another company not too far from him about 3 hrs away called www.integrityvideo.net, but there name is Integrity Video, looks like he may have used that name without researching if it was used already...I don;t know the legalities with that but it doesn;t sound cool....maybe he stole someone's name too????
Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006, 03:05 PM Whatever you do don't click www.integrityvideo.com/images
Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006, 03:29 PM He's a photographer also..Mad Skills
Here's his portfolio.
http://integrityvideo.com/Photo%20Portfolio/pages/erin_and_dan%20045_jpg.htm
Now see that pic.. Using my super secret squirrel google mastery techniques, I found that same image here. Which I assume is the original
www.davehoare.com/slideshow. php?album=44&photo=18
Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006, 03:55 PM Ahhh.. Come on.. Who tipped him off? He's slowly pulling down the site..
Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006, 04:40 PM I was able to track down two other videos to a San Deigo Videographer.. Any luck on the others?
http://www.frontburnervideo.com/html/web_video.html
Specifically:
http://www.frontburnervideo.com/Video/avimimiforwebMed_Prog001.wmv
http://www.sandiegovideographer.com/video/MaureenPaul2Sm_Prog001.wmv
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 5th, 2006, 05:08 PM Mark-
How did you ever come across your work by this guy???? I'm sure there are scumbags all over the place doing this sort of thing, but how did you happen to find your work on www.intergityvideo.com's website. Is there a way for any of us to check for this sort of thing beside randomly looking at others' website's.....if so, please share. Thanks- J
Checkout these clips because you may just find some that you recognize from your own work. Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips. Of course he changed the music, so the visuals don't match the music. The three that are mine are, Misty Cry, Unforgetable and Sunburst.
http://www.integrityvideo.com/Page%206-Video%20Gallery.htm
Mike Cook February 5th, 2006, 06:59 PM Hey Mark,
I live not too far away from this poser. I'd be glad to pay him a visit for you....(late at night....)
Mike
A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006, 07:09 PM it makes me worry because none of my clips are watermarked. i'm seriously considering pulling them.
Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006, 07:17 PM I was able to track down two other videos to a San Deigo Videographer.. Any luck on the others?
Hi Pat,
Good work. Some have mentioned that the site is down, but it's still up and the video clips still work.
Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006, 07:18 PM Mark-
How did you ever come across your work by this guy???? I'm sure there are scumbags all over the place doing this sort of thing, but how did you happen to find your work on www.intergityvideo.com's website. Is there a way for any of us to check for this sort of thing beside randomly looking at others' website's.....if so, please share. Thanks- J
Hi Joe,
Another videographer that had purchased our training material recognized our clips on his site, otherwise I wouldn't have known about it.
Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006, 07:20 PM it makes me worry because none of my clips are watermarked. i'm seriously considering pulling them.
Hi A.J.
All of the videos on our training material are watermarked, but that didn't stop him. He just covered it up with his own logo.
Mike Cook February 5th, 2006, 08:04 PM With Marks case I don't know how you can really protect yourself from this stuff but with web clips is there not a way to post clips that can be viewed but not downloaded?
I am not all that web savy so maybe one of the webbies can address a method to help prevent web clips from being grabbed.
Any takers?
mike
Lowell Oswald February 5th, 2006, 08:19 PM That is ridiculous! I can't believe someone would be so stupid.
I have a fairly good way to protect against this...Use Flash.
I've got all of my wedding videos compressed into .flv files, which are in turn embedded into a .swf file that is called from my main site's .swf file...it sounds more complicated than it really is.
Have a look for yourself...try to see if you can get any of the clips off the site...I have the videos set to load into the ram and not the temporary internet files folder..
www.ehansenproductions.com
Hope this helps, email me if you need more info on going about using this method!
Mike Cook February 5th, 2006, 08:31 PM Well, perhaps you could start a thread explaining your method for us knuckle heads. I am sure you would have a great many grateful people such as myself.
Glad to see the helping spirit is out there too....
Mike
Lowell Oswald February 5th, 2006, 08:41 PM If there are enough people that want help with this I'd be happy to post a tutorial.
However, this method would require each person to obtain a copy of Macromedia Flash...which can be pricey, especially if it's just for posting videos online.
If it is just a couple people wanting this, I might be able to transfer their videos through flash, make the .swf and .flv files and then give them back on a CD (shipping fees payed by the person) so they could upload them.
But if several people want/need this done, I'll have to have some small fee for this work..it does take time.
Let me know what you all would like,
Lowell
_______________________________________________________________
ehansenproductions|strillogyfilms|insite events - Canon GL2, XL H1, Dual 2.7 G5
A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006, 09:06 PM mark... wow. that's pretty damn ridiculous. so where his watermark is now used to have yours? crazy.
hi lowell, a detailed tutorial thread would be awesome. i tried using flash before but i couldn't get the compression settings right... my stuff looked choppy and artifact-y... and i didn't have much time to spare on it so i quit trying.
Heather Darling February 5th, 2006, 09:13 PM Use Sorensen Squeeze to convert your video files to an flv file. The program costs about 215.00 but well worth the piece of mind. It's on ebay right now with a buy it now for $100 and there's another starting out at $30. You would still need flash to create the .swf. If you don't have flash you could always download the trial to setup your current videos. It's pretty simple.
A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006, 09:17 PM Use Sorensen Squeeze to convert your video files to an flv file. The program costs about 215.00 but well worth the piece of mind. It's on ebay right now with a buy it now for $100 and there's another starting out at $30. You would still need flash to create the .swf. If you don't have flash you could always download the trial to setup your current videos. It's pretty simple.
probably why i was doing it wrong... i was making flash embed a quicktime movie (mpeg-4 @ 400kbps) and it just looked horrible.
any suggested sorenson squeeze settings?
Heather Darling February 5th, 2006, 09:21 PM Sorensen has presets for the flv's. Just tell it what video clip you want, pick your preset and go. The only thing you have to use flash for is creating the player that calls the flv video. I have a template setup already for the swf. Unfortunately, my computer is down right now. I should have it back in a few days and I'd be willing to email the swf file to anyone who wants it. The only thing you'd have to do is change the address to where you have the flv uploaded. It does sound a bit complicated, but really it's pretty simple.
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 6th, 2006, 12:27 AM [FLASH.....will not protect SQUAT when someone calls, or emails you asking for a demo dvd.....fronting as if they are a prospective client.....there are a lot of ways to get our footage, FLASH will protect the downloading thing but what about you sending your demos out......and we all do it, well most of us. You cant always tell if someone is fishing for this stuff because they could simply have a friend or girlfriend call you and pose as a bride to be.
I say when mofo's do this......TAKE ACTION on them however you can manage to do it......I WOULD NOT just let it go, but thats me.
QUOTE=Lowell Oswald]That is ridiculous! I can't believe someone would be so stupid.
I have a fairly good way to protect against this...Use Flash.
I've got all of my wedding videos compressed into .flv files, which are in turn embedded into a .swf file that is called from my main site's .swf file...it sounds more complicated than it really is.
Have a look for yourself...try to see if you can get any of the clips off the site...I have the videos set to load into the ram and not the temporary internet files folder..
www.ehansenproductions.com
Hope this helps, email me if you need more info on going about using this method![/QUOTE]
Lowell Oswald February 6th, 2006, 02:14 AM Very good point Joe-
I'm not sure how many people will go through the hassle of ordering a dvd then ripping it-converting it-then editing it. But I guess it is definately a possibility.
What are options to legally go after these kind of people? Just curious...I'd prefer to 'happen' upon them in a dark parking lot...
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 6th, 2006, 02:35 AM hey lowell, well....you would be suprised, think of it like this......you got some scumbag like www.integrityvideo.com who has NO DEMO footage but he aspires to be an "event/wedding videographer"...and maybe he "knows" how to shoot but again....he has no footage of weddings, etc. to display to potential clinets, its easy for he/she to call around.....get demos.....re edit them a little, then post them as his/her own.
to understand the scum....we must think like the scum, and that is a VERY easy way to make it all happen.....and if they get shut down like this guy were talking about has....he starts up under a new name...new website. hes like a cocka roacha.......can't get rid of em'.
i live near the scum we're all talking about....i'll do my best to pass the word out here on this guy to every vendor/camera op...ect. its a smaller world than you think.
Very good point Joe-
I'm not sure how many people will go through the hassle of ordering a dvd then ripping it-converting it-then editing it. But I guess it is definately a possibility.
What are options to legally go after these kind of people? Just curious...I'd prefer to 'happen' upon them in a dark parking lot...
A.J. Briones February 6th, 2006, 09:27 AM this is the main reason i stopped giving out demos.
Mark Von Lanken February 6th, 2006, 10:15 AM i live near the scum we're all talking about....i'll do my best to pass the word out here on this guy to every vendor/camera op...ect. its a smaller world than you think.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for spreading the work in your local market. The local vendors really need to know about the low level of ethics www.Integrityvideo.com has. I really wish there was a way to let brides know about it, because they are the ones that will suffer the most form his lack of integrity.
Mark Von Lanken February 6th, 2006, 10:24 AM this is the main reason i stopped giving out demos.
Hi A.J.
I know what you mean. It's like a double edged sword. You hate the thought of giving unethical videographers a chance to steal your work. At the same time we just booked a $5500 wedding this morning because we were willing to send a DVD Demo to a bride 100 miles away.
I the case of www.integrityvideo.com , he stole our work from our training materials. Will I stop making training materials? No, because the educational value has done far more to help videograpers than what this guy has done to hurt our industry.
Some have said, how can this guys actions hurt our industry? When the Bride books him based on the abilities of other videographers and then her video doesn't look like the samples she saw on his site, she isn't going to have a very high regard for him or our industy.
Kim Kinser February 6th, 2006, 10:43 AM There really is not much you can do here I think. You would need very deep pockets to litigate and you would also need to prove damages AND they would have to be able to pay.
But, I wouldn't let that sad reality stop you from putting your stuff out there.
In the meantime, perhaps we could all request a copy of their demo to be mailed to us. A few thousand requests for a dvd mailing should be enough to make them choke. And, if not, you know you have someobody worth suing.
Just a thought.
Nicholas Valentine February 6th, 2006, 10:43 AM Well, I just checked the infamous site out and it seems to be down. It's just a gradient background.
I just started my own videography business and I don't have a wedding demo yet. I'm good friends with the owner of a local costume shop (which might have wedding dresses, I don't know yet), and I might stage my own wedding just to have something to show. Is this bad?
Sam Gates February 6th, 2006, 11:07 AM I want to thank those of you who post clips anf allow them to be downloaded.
I only do video for church and as a hobby. Since I do not intend to do this for a living or even seriously, training videos are not practicle. I am currently working on some video shot at my daughter's wedding and working on a slide show of the photographs. I have learned more from watching clips from this forum tan any other sorouce I have found. I learn the most when I download them and watch them again and again looking for what makes them work. Some of them have helped with ideas for editing our church service also.
I hope the actions of a few people do not ruin this learning experience for everyone but I certainly understand your frustration.
Sam
Mike Oveson February 6th, 2006, 11:48 AM I just thought I'd throw something out here for those who use Adobe Premiere Pro. The newest version, 2.0, will now encode to Flash Video without the need for additional software. I haven't done this yet myself as I am a Vegas user, but I thought that the information might be useful to someone.
A.J. Briones February 6th, 2006, 12:26 PM Well, I just checked the infamous site out and it seems to be down. It's just a gradient background.
I just started my own videography business and I don't have a wedding demo yet. I'm good friends with the owner of a local costume shop (which might have wedding dresses, I don't know yet), and I might stage my own wedding just to have something to show. Is this bad?
this is going a bit off topic, but here in my city there is a company whose samples look very staged. i don't have a problem with it, but some brides i've spoken to have mentioned them by name, and they felt as though they were being sold a lie when they saw the demo.
it might be better to do a couple of weddings on the cheap or free so you can get sample footage. it's also a great way to learn (by way of jumping in the deep end). it's how we started, and our first wedding ($200) is still generating referrals.
Nicholas Valentine February 6th, 2006, 01:16 PM Thanks A.J. I'll go your route.
Pat Sherman February 6th, 2006, 10:55 PM Use Sorensen Squeeze to convert your video files to an flv file. The program costs about 215.00 but well worth the piece of mind. It's on ebay right now with a buy it now for $100 and there's another starting out at $30. You would still need flash to create the .swf. If you don't have flash you could always download the trial to setup your current videos. It's pretty simple.
I was going to mention Premiere Pro 2, but Mike beat me to it..
So enode away then just get something like WimpyAV Player for your website and flash away or design your own player..
Mike Cook February 8th, 2006, 06:27 AM Mark and other posters,
Don't let guys like this ruin the environment for all. There is so much to be learned from watching others work and learning from it. I too had my work passed off by someone else. While this stopped me from passing our project files (AE project) I won't let this stop me from helping move the wedding video industry to a higher level.
The best way to torpedo guys like this is keep pushing your work higher. Posers like this will be shown for what they are in no time. While they may be able to fool a few people for a little while it won't take long for them to fade away.
Along with Joe I will help spread the work in the LA area. Meanwhile we should persue avenues to protect our work via Flash and others. Help each other police ourselves.
Mike
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 8th, 2006, 09:45 PM Well, I am guessing that many of the users here pounded this guy at www.integrityvideo.com about the crap he pulled by stealing others work and using it as his own. His site is down, chances are ....he'll do it again so I will be on the "look out" here in Southern Cali, that is where hes located. He also disconnected his phone or changed he number!
Mark Von Lanken February 10th, 2006, 09:44 AM I would like to thank everyone for their support. Here's the latest. Integrityvideo.com is a blank page. I called him and his phone number has been disconnected. So now at least Brides in his area will not be able to easily reach him, and it is the Brides that I wanted to protect the most.
Just for some clarification. He stole clips from our training videos and not our website. Some have encouraged us not to let this guy's lack of integrity stop us from sharing our work. Let me assure you, we will not let one bad apple ruin it for everyone. We will continue to offer training materials, give seminars and have video clips on our website.
I would especially like to thank the local California videographers for spreading the word on this guy and keeping a watch out for him. I will continue to monitor his website.
Joe Allen Rosenberger February 10th, 2006, 01:29 PM You're welcome Mark.....and I don't think this incident will ruin anything as in folks not sharing, training vids ,etc....it just brings a sense of awareness to all of us that there are idiots like this out there.....
I would like to thank everyone for their support. Here's the latest. Integrityvideo.com is a blank page. I called him and his phone number has been disconnected. So now at least Brides in his area will not be able to easily reach him, and it is the Brides that I wanted to protect the most.
Just for some clarification. He stole clips from our training videos and not our website. Some have encouraged us not to let this guy's lack of integrity stop us from sharing our work. Let me assure you, we will not let one bad apple ruin it for everyone. We will continue to offer training materials, give seminars and have video clips on our website.
I would especially like to thank the local California videographers for spreading the word on this guy and keeping a watch out for him. I will continue to monitor his website.
Mark Von Lanken February 20th, 2006, 10:34 AM That's right, Mel is back at it.
http://integrityvideo.com/oneknight4you/oneknight4you/Page%206-Video%20Gallery.htm
Sometimes the clips work and sometimes they don't. I had the best luck downloading the clips in a new window.
I have contacted his ISP's legal team. I'll let you know their response.
Richard Alvarez February 20th, 2006, 10:47 AM Just as a question, are the training videos this guy ripped of registered with the copyright office?
(Yes, yes, I know they are automatically copyrighted the moment they are fixed in a tangible medium... I'm married to a copyright attorney.)
Because if you have sent the training videos in to the Copyright Office and registered them, the DAMAGES you can collect will be much higher than if you hadn't.
Just one more reason to go through the extra steps of licking a stamp.
(Good move on contacting the ISP. If they leave his site up after being notified that he's in infringement, they become liable. He may not have deep pockets, but I'll bet they do.)
Pat Sherman February 20th, 2006, 02:52 PM You know I think Mark is missing a marketing opportunity here.. Just start selling clips already encoded in your favorite codecs for videographers to use as marketing materials. No Watermarks, they own the copyright and at $300.00 per 5 minute clip, heck..
Pat Sherman February 20th, 2006, 02:58 PM This is the reason I encode everything in Flash Video now and built a flash player embedded into a SWF that loads the external FLV file into a frame. Then I disable the Flash right-click menu and fill the page with only the flash file. It won't stop the hardcore high-tech guys, but it stops Integrity Video type guys..
It's sorta like a alarm system, they see it and the right-click save as doesn't work they will keep going to find something easier to steal..
Not to mention Flash 8 player is free and runs on macs and pc's so I don't have to deal with these emails
"I tried to view your clip but I don't have this quicktime program and your site sent me to the quicktime download, but it sounds like this could be a virus, I'll have to call AOL and see if it's ok to install this quicktime it would really be easier if you just put the dvd on the website so I can watch it with my PowerDVD player, everything is doing it."
|
|