Hey everyone, so have you guys started to use this new version yet? Any testimonials? my only question is, does it still do the conforming audio stuff? Is it more stable? Any info/reviews would be great.

Also, how does the color correction compare to that of Vegas 6? Anyone used the multi-cam feature?

Most audio does not need to be conformed. A Peak file is still created in order to display it on the timeline. It talkes a while, but there are no more huge conformed audio files for audio brought is at the same rate as the project.

It is stable.

Color correction is good, and secondary color correction was added. But I am not sure any program can match color correction in Vegas.

Only thing I'd like to know is how does it work with 24p now? This was one thing that got me throwing the towel on this app, being an XL2 owner and frequent 24p shooter, as it was just a complete mess.

Working with 24p and 60i video in the same timeline was just horrible.

There was also no way to adjust and control your frame rate settings on the fly like you could in Vegas.

But most troubling of all, there was no way to export back to tape a true 2:3:3:2 24p sequence, as when I tried to export it to tape, I would get audio parasites throughout the whole sequence. Little random poping and crackling sounds. That meant exporting everything back to standard 60i DV and losing the ability to remove the extra frames if imported back again. Didn't get this problem with 30p or 60i video and the problem repeated on 2 different computers (Intel and AMD) so I doubt it was hardware related. Now THAT is one major issue I hope has been addressed.

On top of that the export movie option with the DV 24p advanced setting would just mean no other NLE was recognizing the footage as proper 24p video with corresponding pulldown removal flags. The codec wasn't doing a good job re-encoding the footage with the 2:3:3:2 pulldown.

Lots of issues with 24p. All the new additions like multicam are nice, but if the bugs haven't been fixed, it's a pretty pointless upgrade as far as I'm concerned.

I don't have first hand knowledge, but I read a post from someone I trust who said that the 24p problem was solved.

Does the version 2.0 takes more memory or resources then the 1.5.1?
Because now I have a smooth running system. I don't want to screw my environment.

from what i seen, it does. but not in all cases.
Pentium 4 3.4GHz processor for HDV; dual Intel Xeon™ 2.8GHz processors for HD
2GB of RAM for HDV and HD
with the ability to do muliticam, you would need memmory and a fast drive to
keep from lagging.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=44468

I haven't tried output back to tape tho. Sold my deck for upcoming HVX.

Does PPro 1.5.1 have known 24p problems? Specifically, the 24p used by the DVX 100b?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58506

I started another thread on this, but I ordered PP 2.0 from Video Guys. Anxious to try it out, I also downloaded trial version. It had no HDV preset, so I though I had done something wrong in install. I uninstalled, but it won't do that completely. I tried reinstall, that won't work either. When I try to run program after the reinstall, it says version is not registered, and won't start the program... anyone got any idea what to do ? And why no HDV ?

i just got the demo on one of my comps, and unfortunately found out that adobe still does its conforming audio crap. That is seriously annoying as heck.... I have around 17 hours worth of footage, and it wants to conform every single one of them... Especially when i dont even care for the field audio..
This feature also kills the portability of editing between various computers, because I have the raw footage on external HDs, and my scratch disks are set locally on one of my partitions. So that means, if I switch to a diff comp with the same project file, it'l reconform the footage... WHY??? To me, this is where Final Cut wins..

Spike, I haven't gotten the upgrade yet but others who are using it seem to feel that the time hit for audio conforming has been markedly improved. Not so? In any case, if you don't need the field audio, why capture it? If you only need the video, just capture that; the software won't conform what it doesn't see.

Hi, i haven't noticed the conforming audio time improvement because as soon as i saw it conforming the audio, i got ticked and shut it off. takes upway too much disk space! My past project is already captured with video/audio so I can't do anything about that..

It probably is a lot quicker, but my other concern is, it makes life very difficult as Its harder to edit on 2 separate rigs on the same project file, unless you conform audio onto the external HDs etc etc... My point is, why not have the option to select conforming or turn it off.. Argh, maybe a patch, someday!

Downloaded the trial version. Color correction tools are nice. Night and day with 1.5.

But I have no ability to burn a DVD or export to MPEG-2 using Adobe Media Encoder. I understand this is a demo but it would have been nice to be able to see if there are improvements on that front. Just put a watermark, it's not that complicated. Anyways...

I'll try to export some 24p footage back to tape in order to find out if they fixed the bad audio issue. I'll report on it later.

EDIT: Forget it, can't export to tape either. This demo's useless or close to it.

Anybody got the full version and can test those aspects?

You stopped too soon. It only conforms to get the Peak files it needs to draw the waveform. It is time consuming but it does not use the huge conformed audio files on the majority of audio imported into the project.

advice from a network engineer who doubles as a camera man.

I assume you are running XP Pro SP 1 or 2... click start -> all programs (or just programs) -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Restore

select a restore point before your install of the trial.
after your machine reboots - delete the folder that it was installed into.

Frank

hey Steven, I tried bringing in around 20gb worth of raw miniDV footage into premiere 2.0. Same old deal as before, conforming audio. i didn't notice any difference, my rig isn't that bad either.. 768mb ram, 3200 64 bit athlon venice core, and 7200rpm drives..its still huge, still resource intensive, still takes time to conform...just lettin ya know.. i doubt its my rig too...:(

But Spike, have you looked in the folder on your drive? Is it small Peak files or large conformed audio files?

I'm thinking about getting Production Studio Premium (thanks goodness for student discounts)
I found there's the "Premium" version... then "Premium with Color Corrector". Does anyone have details as to what this is? From what I can gather it has to do with correcting color for things as you copy them to DVD... I'm not sure if I need this or not.

Also, does Premiere Pro 2 support the Shuttlepro2 now, or has it been supported all along and I never figured it out?

Thanks.

Production Studio with the color corrector is essntially the Production Studio Premium with an extra AE plugin.