Council Bradshaw
January 24th, 2006, 09:14 AM
I just got off the phone with my JVC rep. He says JVC is going up on their GY HD100 prices Feb. 1st. However he didn't have any details. Anyone else heard this?
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Council Bradshaw January 24th, 2006, 09:14 AM I just got off the phone with my JVC rep. He says JVC is going up on their GY HD100 prices Feb. 1st. However he didn't have any details. Anyone else heard this? Edwin Huang January 24th, 2006, 12:11 PM Could be a good thing if they come out with a better lens, battery etc... The free battery thing ends on Feb. 28th which makes things awkward for a Feb. 1 price increase. As it is the US streetprice is $5k from an authorized dealer - 10% under MAP. Steve Roark January 24th, 2006, 02:20 PM When you say, JVC Rep, do you mean someone within JVC or a sales rep who handles JVC merchandise? If its the latter, it sounds like a pressure tactic to close a sale. I hope Edwin is right, new batteries and lens options would be very interesting. I noticed quite a few people holding out for the HVX are starting to throw in the towel, especially after the HD100 held its own in Barry Green's shoot-out. Addressing two of the HD100's weaknesses could turn a lot of heads, especially the guys that are high up on the waiting lists. I guess we'll see in a week... Lou Bruno January 24th, 2006, 04:09 PM They are going up $50 US Dollars after Feb 1st. Steve Roark January 24th, 2006, 04:15 PM $50 doesn't sound like it would buy a wide-angle lens option :( Council Bradshaw January 24th, 2006, 04:18 PM I heard it from my local sales rep. Yeah I thought it might be a sales tactic but he's a pretty stand up guy. I asked if they (JVC) would be making any improvments along with the price increase and he said not that he's aware of. Terry Nixon January 26th, 2006, 11:07 AM I got the memo yesterday from JVC about the price increase. The cost goes up by several hundred feb 1. List is still $6295. Greg Corke January 26th, 2006, 12:43 PM Blimey, if thats true then its probably the first electrical product in history thats gonna be worth the same on the first of Feb as when you made a purchase a couple of months ago. Strange. Joe Carney January 26th, 2006, 02:20 PM Crud, I wasn't going to have the cash together until mid Feb. Not sure if it's worth the extra, unless there is a better lense. Joe Carney January 26th, 2006, 02:48 PM deleted double post Council Bradshaw January 26th, 2006, 03:30 PM Okay I'll admit it. The price increase Feb. 1st has made me place the order. I was pretty darn sure it was going to happen anyway, just not so soon. But what the hey I'm tired of reading about the camera and occassionally getting a 30minute demo. I want one of my own. Now the question is how long will it take for me to get my free battery kit. Diogo Athouguia January 26th, 2006, 06:15 PM The free battery kit is probably the reason why the price will be increased. Michael Maier January 26th, 2006, 06:20 PM Price increase may just be to catch up with the price drop it had earlier on, maybe as an incentive to early customers to buy it after all the bad "fake" press it was getting. Now that it seems to be selling well and people have realized all the fuzz was just that, fuzz, the demand is growing and meeting JVC's expectations, so they will probably bring the camera back to what's worth and or projected to sell (to recover their R&D and production costs). Just my guess and quite honestly the camera is worth the money, even the MSRP if you ask me. It’s all about demand too and the HD100 seems to be the hottest selling HD camera right now. I doubt Canon or Panasonic will sell as many. Who would have thought after all the fuzz uh? Well I did. After I bought mine I knew soon or latter the BS would succumb to the awesome camera’s performance and the truth would came out. Signed: Very Happy Early Adopter. Albert Henson January 27th, 2006, 12:00 AM I heard today from my dealer that the price increase of the hd100 will be due to the new and improved lens that will be included with the camera. All he said was that the lens would help eliminate the SSE substantially-Not completely and that the camera would be much more versatile in low light situations. He also mentioned that something was up corporately with JVC and the communication with the dealerships has not been efficient lately. So-in a nutshell dealers have been informed of a new lens being released with the cameras sent after feb 1st. They conveyed this-but do not reply to the queries of the dealers. Any JVC reps out there care to comment? I think I will be looking at buying one of the new units. The battery pack deal is sweet-but if the SSE is gone it will save more headaches in the long run. Guest January 27th, 2006, 12:09 AM I got the memo yesterday from JVC about the price increase. The cost goes up by several hundred feb 1. List is still $6295.I don't catch why? The usual is the opposite... BTW, how much hundred(s)? Tim Dashwood January 27th, 2006, 12:17 AM I heard today from my dealer that the price increase of the hd100 will be due to the new and improved lens that will be included with the camera. All he said was that the lens would help eliminate the SSE substantially-Not completely and that the camera would be much more versatile in low light situations. IF there were a new lens, it would have nothing to do with reduced SSE. SSE is an electronic issue, not an optical one. Jemore Santos January 27th, 2006, 09:43 AM Tim I have a case of CA maybe its what they are talking about, not Split Screen Joe Carney January 27th, 2006, 11:22 AM reducing CA makes sense. If thats the case, I'm more than happy to wait for a new version even if it's a little more expensive. And if I can get the cool battery stuff, then great. The CA issues were about the only concern left I had with this camera. I just don't like to finance things, prefer to pay cash, so it takes me a little longer. Michael Maier January 27th, 2006, 12:01 PM I heard today from my dealer that the price increase of the hd100 will be due to the new and improved lens that will be included with the camera. All he said was that the lens would help eliminate the SSE substantially-Not completely and that the camera would be much more versatile in low light situations. He also mentioned that something was up corporately with JVC and the communication with the dealerships has not been efficient lately. So-in a nutshell dealers have been informed of a new lens being released with the cameras sent after feb 1st. They conveyed this-but do not reply to the queries of the dealers. Any JVC reps out there care to comment? I think I will be looking at buying one of the new units. The battery pack deal is sweet-but if the SSE is gone it will save more headaches in the long run. I find it hard to believe as the SSE is not related to the lens. The price increase may be because of a new lens which will have less CA etc, but I don't see any lens helping in the SSE. Warren Shultz January 27th, 2006, 01:32 PM Perhaps it's indirectly related in that lens flaring seems to stimulate the SSE most (for me) and I have a real problem with this lens catching flare very easily--more so than any lens I've used before. I've never heard anyone else mention it but it's been a real pain for me. Albert Henson January 27th, 2006, 05:43 PM My understanding, as I have interrpreted my dealer to understand is that JVC's thinking is that the improved lens will allow for improved shooting in low light-which is where most of the reports of the SSE occur. Don't shoot the messenger. Rod Finch January 27th, 2006, 11:12 PM There is no improved lens everything is the same ... they are just pricing the cam close to the other 3 HD cameras Paul Larche January 28th, 2006, 10:14 AM There is no improved lens everything is the same ... they are just pricing the cam close to the other 3 HD cameras How do you know this Rod? Michael Maier January 28th, 2006, 12:13 PM Perhaps it's indirectly related in that lens flaring seems to stimulate the SSE most (for me) and I have a real problem with this lens catching flare very easily--more so than any lens I've used before. I've never heard anyone else mention it but it's been a real pain for me. For lens flaring just use a matte box. Rod Finch January 29th, 2006, 12:26 AM I called and asked .. and that is what I was told Shawn Alyasiri January 29th, 2006, 10:25 AM ?? - Is this an incomplete poste above? You said you called, etc... Jiri Bakala January 29th, 2006, 11:43 AM ?? - Is this an incomplete poste above? You said you called, etc... Just go back to his previous post and... it makes sense. Terry Nixon January 29th, 2006, 12:10 PM Regarding rumours of a new lens, i have not been told by JVC nor have i seen any JVC dealer memo's indicating that a new lens is in the works. Mark Love January 29th, 2006, 01:17 PM Regarding rumours of a new lens, i have not been told by JVC nor have i seen any JVC dealer memo's indicating that a new lens is in the works. So, new lens aside, as a whole are we accepting that this price increase is happening? If so, I may need to push this purchase though this week. Our budget can't take a $1100 hit. Joel Aaron January 29th, 2006, 07:36 PM So, new lens aside, as a whole are we accepting that this price increase is happening? If so, I may need to push this purchase though this week. Our budget can't take a $1100 hit. I haven't seen $1100 increase quoted anywhere. Where did you get that idea? Does anyone know what the increase will be and how long the battery deal will be in place? Diogo Athouguia January 29th, 2006, 08:06 PM Any info about price increase in Europe? Michael Maier January 29th, 2006, 08:11 PM If it will go up in the U.S., Europe will sure follow. Laszlo Horvath January 29th, 2006, 08:49 PM I haven't seen $1100 increase quoted anywhere. Where did you get that idea? Does anyone know what the increase will be and how long the battery deal will be in place? Price go up by $390 as Feb. 1 Also, the battery adapter-battery-charger combo will included till Feb.28 Least my dealer told me Friday, when I ordered my second HD100 Some reason I don't beleive the lens upgrade. My dealer never heard about new lens. (Armato's) Laszlo Mike Marriage January 30th, 2006, 05:07 AM Just spoke to JVC Europe. The guy there said that he knows of no price increases over here and that they are completely separate from JVC US. Looks like it might skip us then. Michael Maier January 30th, 2006, 05:31 AM That may be because Europe's price is already over priced. Joe Carney January 30th, 2006, 10:36 AM Could be because of US/Japan currency fluctuations. Or they just want more money. If the battery kit is included, maybe not such a bad thing after all? Michael Lafleur January 30th, 2006, 03:12 PM I just got off the phone with a JVC Canada Rep and he clearly stated that Canadian JVC Dealers would NOT be offering the Power Promotion package in Canada. Instead, they are offering new pricing which includes the KA-551 Tripod Plate and the WCV-82SC Wide Converter that has bumped the street price up by approx $500 CAN. It appears that most of the JVC dealers in Canada opted for this alternative pricing promotion to avoid cutting into the profitablity of portable battery sales. If anyone knows of any authorized Canadian dealers that are doing otherwise, I'd be interested in having that information. Joe Carney January 30th, 2006, 04:34 PM At least 2 of our sponsers, zotz and evs ARE participating in the idx battery promotion, both with excellent prices too. All I had to do was ask about it. Tim Dashwood January 30th, 2006, 05:08 PM I just got off the phone with a JVC Canada Rep and he clearly stated that Canadian JVC Dealers would NOT be offering the Power Promotion package in Canada. Instead, they are offering new pricing which includes the KA-551 Tripod Plate and the WCV-82SC Wide Converter that has bumped the street price up by approx $500 CAN. This is a smart move IMO, and a very good deal at only $500 increase. These are both JVC distributed items so there will be no delays sending in redeemable "coupons" or waiting for IDX stock (as I did, and then just went with AB instead.) It also gives the end users the option to choose a 3rd party power system to fit their own production environment. And welcome to the forum Michael. We live in the same area. I can hook you up with my dealer in Hamilton if you want. Jim Giberti January 30th, 2006, 08:00 PM At least 2 of our sponsers, zotz and evs ARE participating in the idx battery promotion, both with excellent prices too. All I had to do was ask about it. I wish I knew that...Brian at Zotz is a good guy and they've done well by me. If I continue to be impressed with it, I'll get our second HD100 from them. Albert Henson January 30th, 2006, 08:37 PM What is the CV-82SC Wide Converter? Is that just the adaptor to fit different lenses, or is it a len enhancement? Tim Dashwood January 30th, 2006, 08:40 PM What is the CV-82SC Wide Converter? Is that just the adaptor to fit different lenses, or is it a len enhancement? It attaches to the end of the stock lens. It turns the stock lens into a approximately a 16x4.5 (4.5mm to 72mm instead of 5.5mm to 88mm) Albert Henson January 30th, 2006, 08:41 PM Tim who is your dealer in Hamilton? I'm from the west coast...but I'm keen to see if prices are more competitive on the east? Michael Lafleur January 30th, 2006, 08:47 PM What is the CV-82SC Wide Converter? Is that just the adaptor to fit different lenses, or is it a len enhancement? Albert, As I understand it, the WCV-82SC will 'widen' the standard Th 16x5.5 RMU lens that ships with the camera by a factor of approx. 30% or .7. If you want to see the item, its on page 15 of the JVC HD100U brochure. You can downlaod the brochure at http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/color_broch.jsp?tree=&model_id=MDL101540&itempath=&feature_id=12 Hope that helps Tim Dashwood January 30th, 2006, 09:15 PM Albert, As I understand it, the WCV-82SC will 'widen' the standard Th 16x5.5 RMU lens that ships with the camera by a factor of approx. 30% or .7. If you want to see the item, its on page 15 of the JVC HD100U brochure. You can downlaod the brochure at http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/color_broch.jsp?tree=&model_id=MDL101540&itempath=&feature_id=12 The factor is 0.82x Cavision has a 0.7x http://www.cavision.com/optics/broadcast/BWA07X86.htm and century has a 0.7x and a 0.5x that may work. http://www.centuryoptics.com/products/broadcast/index.htm Michael Lafleur January 30th, 2006, 09:23 PM Tim, I'm certainly glad to have someone of your calibre in the industry so close at hand! I truly appreciate the many informative postings and insights you have shared so that those newer to this format can draw upon your experience! Thanks for the more precise info on the lens. I was quoting Peter at Hamilton Video. Great web site and very impressive CV!! Michael Tim Dashwood January 30th, 2006, 09:43 PM Tim who is your dealer in Hamilton? I'm from the west coast...but I'm keen to see if prices are more competitive on the east? Albert, I doubt the east in any more competitively priced than the west. I believe the Canadian pricing is set by JVC Canada, and there are so few dealers in each region that I doubt they compete with each other, especially when the HD100 flies off the shelves so fast. Tim Dashwood January 30th, 2006, 09:53 PM I was quoting Peter at Hamilton Video. Peter's my dealer too. He's a real stand-up guy and very helpful. You know he actually "knows" all those model numbers he quotes all the time! He must have a photographic memory or something! Anyway, I haven't heard anything about the rumoured price increase from him yet. If it is to happen in Canada, then it must be a sign that sales are going well. Michael Lafleur January 30th, 2006, 09:59 PM Actually, Tim, if you can believe it, I found out about the new package/new pricing before he did late last week... I think he was slightly ticked at JVC Canada that a prospective customer had one up on him. :-) He seems like a good guy but I am looking a several other dealers in the area before I dive in. Michael Rush Hamden February 6th, 2006, 02:02 AM We sure are in the IDX program, and I just received the coupons for the customers who bought them in January before the announcement. Nice to see my rep Marion took care of those good people. We sold 5 cameras the day before the price increase, and have been steadily taking orders since. The camera has redeemed itself, and is steadily garnering support from many communities. |