Marcus van Bavel
November 28th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Marcus,
What if I shot in 50i with CineFrame 25 and have been making, in Final Cut, a Photojpeg (at 75%/8 bit) quality, then conforming it in Cinema Tools to 23.98 fps vs. using one of the DVFilm plug-ins? My audio's pitch drops slightly, but not too bad. Would I get that with DVFilm? Also, do I lose more resolution?
Thanks,
Heath
1. Instead of CF25 I would shoot 50i or 60i to avoid any loss in vertical resolution. The reasons are elucidated here http://dvfilm.com/fx1
2. The main benefit of 60i is that you don't have to slow the movie down 4%. Because the 60i to 24P conversion requires blending fields together (in areas of the screen where there is motion) you have to be careful about shutter speed and blown-out highlights that create an artifical high shutter speed look. This is also a consideration for 50i but not as important.
3. Assuming that you have to shoot 50i like for example you have a Euro model FX1, then convert to 25P with Maker and do all your ediiting at 25P, not 24P. You can make a 60i (NTSC) DVD movie with DVFilm Atlantis with no speed change, instead of a 24P DVD movie.
If there is a transfer to film the film transfer house will do the time expansion of the dialog with ProTools or similar app. We generally like to do this rather than let the filmmaker do it as we can check the results in our screening room. Despite great efforts time expansion of dialog always suffers a slight quality loss. For original music (esp orchestral music) and effects it's better to just slow it down and not attempt a pitch correction. Then we mix it all together at the new rate (24P). Much of this is covered in SHOOTING DIGITAL if you have the old edition, The new one is not quite done yet.
What if I shot in 50i with CineFrame 25 and have been making, in Final Cut, a Photojpeg (at 75%/8 bit) quality, then conforming it in Cinema Tools to 23.98 fps vs. using one of the DVFilm plug-ins? My audio's pitch drops slightly, but not too bad. Would I get that with DVFilm? Also, do I lose more resolution?
Thanks,
Heath
1. Instead of CF25 I would shoot 50i or 60i to avoid any loss in vertical resolution. The reasons are elucidated here http://dvfilm.com/fx1
2. The main benefit of 60i is that you don't have to slow the movie down 4%. Because the 60i to 24P conversion requires blending fields together (in areas of the screen where there is motion) you have to be careful about shutter speed and blown-out highlights that create an artifical high shutter speed look. This is also a consideration for 50i but not as important.
3. Assuming that you have to shoot 50i like for example you have a Euro model FX1, then convert to 25P with Maker and do all your ediiting at 25P, not 24P. You can make a 60i (NTSC) DVD movie with DVFilm Atlantis with no speed change, instead of a 24P DVD movie.
If there is a transfer to film the film transfer house will do the time expansion of the dialog with ProTools or similar app. We generally like to do this rather than let the filmmaker do it as we can check the results in our screening room. Despite great efforts time expansion of dialog always suffers a slight quality loss. For original music (esp orchestral music) and effects it's better to just slow it down and not attempt a pitch correction. Then we mix it all together at the new rate (24P). Much of this is covered in SHOOTING DIGITAL if you have the old edition, The new one is not quite done yet.