View Full Version : are these lenses worth buying?
Andrew Todd January 9th, 2006, 08:01 AM Are these lenses and converters worth buying? which ones?
-Access Auto Tele Converter 2x, P-MC for C/FD
-Vivitar Auto Tele Converter 1.5x-5
-Focal MC 2x Converter
-(4) Vivitar Auto 2X Custom Tele Converter, Model 2x-1
-Variable Auto Tube
-Soligor MP Auto Tele Converter 2x for C/FD
-Tristar Telephoto Lens for AF35M-II
-Kogaku f=135mm 1:4 Lens
-Mamiya-Sekor Auto f=135mm 1:28 Lens
-Computar TV Lens 8.5mm 1:1.3
-Canon Fd 135mm 1:2.5 Lens
-Albinar 55mm 80-200mm 1:39 Macro Lens
-Petri Auto 1:4 F=200mm Lens
-TriStar Wide Angle Lens for AF35M-II
-PT Auto Teleplus 3x Lens
-PT Auto Teleplus 2x Lens
Bill Porter January 9th, 2006, 11:01 AM No.
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Andrew Todd January 9th, 2006, 12:27 PM even for cheap? they're for sale cheap as a whole lot. there's nothing i can do with them?
Ben Winter January 9th, 2006, 01:08 PM Canon Fd 135mm 1:2.5 Lens
I'd want that one. But that's about it.
Andrew Todd January 9th, 2006, 01:23 PM if i could get these all for $50 i could sell the rest seperately and make my money back though couldnt i?
Bill Porter January 9th, 2006, 02:43 PM It's amazing how you can tell someone "No" and they'll fish for what they want to hear! :)
If they were worth anything someone else would be buying them. I can't see that any of them would be what you want. I wouldn't want the 135mm F2.5. There are F2.0's out there and they'll be better even when stopped down to F2.5.
There are no shortcuts. Sorry, bud. Just buy the right lenses and be happy knowing you're joining the club and paying the same dues we all did.
Andrew Todd January 9th, 2006, 03:10 PM bill, im obviously a novice when it comes to these still lenses. So if i ask a question on here and you dont want to offer any *useful* information then dont bother replying. Im just trying to learn here. when you look for lenses you dont try to find the best deals? I find that hard to believe
Bill Porter January 10th, 2006, 04:30 AM My original answer of "No" was extremely useful, even if you didn't want to hear it! :)
Ben Winter January 10th, 2006, 07:48 AM Andrew, don't let Bill discourage you from looking for good finds. As much as Bill might not think so, you can get amazing deals on some really nice lenses. I just picked up a 55mm 1.2 (a really fast, normally $200-$300 lens) off ebay for $70 because there was a tiny piece of dirt inside the outer lens (which I promptly took care of). Before that, I picked up a $220 Century Optics +7 macro for $70 used, in great condition. Most of the time you do get what you pay for, but if you've got a stiffly stifferson deciding that for you, you just might luck out.
Bob Hart January 10th, 2006, 11:34 AM If you can get them for $50 and move some of them on, then I can't see any problem. Some of the stuff is sit in the bottom of the box forever material. Depending on the actual mounts, the two 135mm lenses are worth a look.
f2.8 in a 135mm is not necessarily bad. It might not be okay for a device which uses the full still-camera frame, but for 24mm x 18mm. I am using an old Tamron adaptamatic 135mm f2.8 for Nikon. Its got a nice big wide piece of glass in the back end and it is fine.
Not all 135mm lenses were born equal and the Kogaku may be weird.
But then again, a $10 CIMKO 28 - 85mm f3.5 - f4.6 for Nikon zoom gave me great results and the best "crashzooms" ever as an effect.
Bill Porter January 10th, 2006, 11:39 AM Andrew, don't let Bill discourage you from looking for good finds.
My posts show nothing of the sort. I tried to discourage him from buying bad finds.
[QUOTE=Ben Winter] As much as Bill might not think so, you can get amazing deals on some really nice lenses.
Again, I never said anything of the sort. Check your facts before you try to put words in my mouth.
Ben Winter January 10th, 2006, 07:58 PM There are no shortcuts.
I dunno, that translates to "you can't spend cheaply on lenses" to me. I'm using Babelfish though.
Ken Lamug January 11th, 2006, 11:24 AM andrew, check out what those sell for on ebay and see if you can make any money... if so, why not right? use the money you make for other parts.
Bill Porter January 11th, 2006, 02:00 PM I'm not sure it's Babelfish. If it is, what are you translating into? ;-)
What I meant was, there are no shortcuts, meaning, you have to buy correct lenses. You can't just buy incorrect ones and have them work because they were a really good deal or because you really want them to work.
I see this in motorsports all the time. Guys buy the wrong camshaft because it was cheap. Then they want to know what they can do to work around reality, in order to use it. Nope. "Huh? Can't I just run a shorter header primary to bring back some top end power to offset the cam being such short duration?" Nope. Now you wasted money on a cheap cam, AND gotta buy the right one in the end anyhow. Now how cheap was that cam? (camshaft, not camera :)
There's no shortcut around getting the right gear. Best you can do is get a great price on the right gear!
Carl Jakobsson January 12th, 2006, 11:55 AM I agree with what's stated above. One thing I've learnt is that it's cheaper and less frustrating buying good stuff from the beginning.
Quoting the famous swedish character farbror Barbro:
"Det finns inga genvägar fram till det perfekta ljudet!"
(There are no shortcuts getting the perfect sound!)
Andrew Todd January 12th, 2006, 02:08 PM i boviusly knew that very little of lenses would work.. all these lenses ended up selling for $30.. maybe if i would have bought it i could have kept what i needed and sold the rest over ebay i probably would have made my money back. but oh well.. it was my choice in the end. And yeah... i am trying to take shortcuts.. i have the lenses that i need right now but was attempting to find some good deals on some extra lenses.. and ill continue to try to take some shortcuts by trying to find the best deals possible.
quote:
"There are no shortcuts. Sorry, bud. Just buy the right lenses and be happy knowing you're joining the club and paying the same dues we all did."
if you dont try to find deals everytime you're looking to buy something then i hope i can join the "club" for cheaper than you did.
Bill Porter January 12th, 2006, 05:20 PM How do you know how much I paid? It's pretty hard to find deals any cheaper. I know, I keep an eye out and buy low! :D
It sounds like the real issue is the term "shortcut." To you, getting a deal is a shortcut.
That's not what it means to me. To me, a shortcut is a way around something. Such as, trying to buy the wrong lenses and hoping they'll work just because you want them to, or because the price was right. But even a free, wrong lens, won't work. :)
To me, getting a deal is the smart thing, so, yes, keep looking! Just buy the RIGHT stuff when you find it cheap. NOT the wrong stuff! That is what I mean. Sorry if you thought I was a bit harsh.
Bryan Ramirez January 15th, 2006, 08:07 PM Play nice boys.
Andrew if it is a nice lens, looks good, pulls focus well, and has a fast F-stop, take a closer look. Don't let people make you feel bad. There are no dumb questions, only DUMB ANSWERS.
Bill Porter January 15th, 2006, 10:53 PM There are no dumb questions, only DUMB ANSWERS.
So true. Speaking of dumb answers, those are not fast lenses he listed, or I would have told him to buy them. I was trying to help him not waste his money on inappropriate lenses, not make him feel bad.
Bryan Ramirez January 16th, 2006, 10:19 AM Ok Bill, Ok, I was just giving general advice. I wasn't talking about those lenses, obviously he already had feedback about them. I wasn't attacking you. Thank you for the clarification. What I meant was, In looking for good deals, look for a few good qualities.
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