Bob Hart
January 9th, 2006, 07:53 AM
Assuming I can get some assurances from other players in this image relay device playing field that I won't be trussed up in a litigation nightmare, would there be anyone interested if a limited production run of 100 units occurred for an AGUS35 style image relay device which attaches directly to camcorders.
I am prompted in this direction by periodic enquiries from people regarding the Australian plumbers versions I have been playing around with since early 2005.
It is intended that the device be a niche product for home-build enthusiasts, not a direct competitor against other commercial products.
The current developments perform only at best to about 700 TV lines resolution for the 5 micron backpolished disk groundglass version.
The base specs would be :-
Front mount for Nikon FM2 compatable prime f1.8 lenses of 24mm, 28mm, 50mm, 85mm, 105mm, 135mm.
Rear mount for attachment at Lens Hood bayonet mount fitting to Sony VX2000/PD150/VX2100/PD170, Sony HDRFX1, Canon XM1/GL1 and XM2/GL2 camera families, Panasonic DVX100>> family of 4:3 and 16:9 native format cameras.
Camera baseplate brace to casework, incorporating new tripod mount baseplate and threaded holes for both sizes of mount studs.
5 Micron groundglass optical grade 120mm diameter x 0.9mm thickness disk. (Oharadisk.).
Image erection via two right-angle coated prisms.
Century Optics 7+ Achromatic dioptre. 58mm x 0.7mm thread mount, with adaptor where needed for 72mm x 0.7mm thread mount.
Backfocus adjustments accessable through case.
Internal 1.5v dry cell battery power.
Custom options do-able on the basic design :-
Choice of 5 micron optical grade groundglass disk, backpolished to more closely integrate with direct television camera origination, or not backpolished to more closely emulate motion film origination. Making this inbuilt selectable would require major re-design of the disk enclosure case.
Selectable choice of groundglass rear-projection or aerial image relay to camcorder.
Insertable adaptors to carry Bolex style filter gel insert slot to enable additional white balance beyond capability of camera systems and additional neutral density filtering beyond capability of camera systems or Live Technologies in-path 35mm film format electronic smart-filter if this version should become committed to production.
Internal LED light source to emulate effect of pre-fogged film stock - a look like 7252 low-contrast 16mm motion picture reversal film. Collateral benefit of being able to check lens for dust and fingermarks at night, also if cap left on.
The design would remain based on commonly available PVC hardware components where possible to keep it simple and enable repair in the field.
The device could be available as a shortform kit, full DOY kit or fully built up.( "RTF").
Current evolutions are buildable from scratch by persons with sound home workshop skills of the level required to construct a flyable model aircraft from materials and plans.
The ability required is to be able to work to the accuracy of the thickness of a ballpoint pen line.
Case construction errors of up to 5mm can be accommodated by the non-erecting design and the optical centre-axis can still be restored.
The prism erecting design is far less forgiving but construction errors of up to 5mm in non-critical areas can still be accommodated.
Furthur accessory options might be:-
Additional adjustable bracework and adaptors to enable balanced tripod use of specialty lenses in the aerial image mode such as Nikon FM2 mount compatable sports telephoto or zoom lenses.
A PL mount version with cast alloy front to suit "Elite" brand 35mm cine prime lenses.
A carry case for the unit and Nikon Lens set, plans or a kit to build one.
Bridge piece to enable rods support of matte boxes etc..
Some added notes :-
(Some constant aperture f2.8 Nikon zoom lenses and the Sigma 50-500mm f4-f6.3 are known to work on the prototype device in groundglass mode into a 24mm x 18mm frame on the groundglass without falloff and onto a 28mm x 18mm frame with some falloff (hotspot effect). In the aerial image mode, there is also the same falloff at the sides, especially with the 16:9 cameras.)
Any thoughts or suggestions on the matter anybody?
I am prompted in this direction by periodic enquiries from people regarding the Australian plumbers versions I have been playing around with since early 2005.
It is intended that the device be a niche product for home-build enthusiasts, not a direct competitor against other commercial products.
The current developments perform only at best to about 700 TV lines resolution for the 5 micron backpolished disk groundglass version.
The base specs would be :-
Front mount for Nikon FM2 compatable prime f1.8 lenses of 24mm, 28mm, 50mm, 85mm, 105mm, 135mm.
Rear mount for attachment at Lens Hood bayonet mount fitting to Sony VX2000/PD150/VX2100/PD170, Sony HDRFX1, Canon XM1/GL1 and XM2/GL2 camera families, Panasonic DVX100>> family of 4:3 and 16:9 native format cameras.
Camera baseplate brace to casework, incorporating new tripod mount baseplate and threaded holes for both sizes of mount studs.
5 Micron groundglass optical grade 120mm diameter x 0.9mm thickness disk. (Oharadisk.).
Image erection via two right-angle coated prisms.
Century Optics 7+ Achromatic dioptre. 58mm x 0.7mm thread mount, with adaptor where needed for 72mm x 0.7mm thread mount.
Backfocus adjustments accessable through case.
Internal 1.5v dry cell battery power.
Custom options do-able on the basic design :-
Choice of 5 micron optical grade groundglass disk, backpolished to more closely integrate with direct television camera origination, or not backpolished to more closely emulate motion film origination. Making this inbuilt selectable would require major re-design of the disk enclosure case.
Selectable choice of groundglass rear-projection or aerial image relay to camcorder.
Insertable adaptors to carry Bolex style filter gel insert slot to enable additional white balance beyond capability of camera systems and additional neutral density filtering beyond capability of camera systems or Live Technologies in-path 35mm film format electronic smart-filter if this version should become committed to production.
Internal LED light source to emulate effect of pre-fogged film stock - a look like 7252 low-contrast 16mm motion picture reversal film. Collateral benefit of being able to check lens for dust and fingermarks at night, also if cap left on.
The design would remain based on commonly available PVC hardware components where possible to keep it simple and enable repair in the field.
The device could be available as a shortform kit, full DOY kit or fully built up.( "RTF").
Current evolutions are buildable from scratch by persons with sound home workshop skills of the level required to construct a flyable model aircraft from materials and plans.
The ability required is to be able to work to the accuracy of the thickness of a ballpoint pen line.
Case construction errors of up to 5mm can be accommodated by the non-erecting design and the optical centre-axis can still be restored.
The prism erecting design is far less forgiving but construction errors of up to 5mm in non-critical areas can still be accommodated.
Furthur accessory options might be:-
Additional adjustable bracework and adaptors to enable balanced tripod use of specialty lenses in the aerial image mode such as Nikon FM2 mount compatable sports telephoto or zoom lenses.
A PL mount version with cast alloy front to suit "Elite" brand 35mm cine prime lenses.
A carry case for the unit and Nikon Lens set, plans or a kit to build one.
Bridge piece to enable rods support of matte boxes etc..
Some added notes :-
(Some constant aperture f2.8 Nikon zoom lenses and the Sigma 50-500mm f4-f6.3 are known to work on the prototype device in groundglass mode into a 24mm x 18mm frame on the groundglass without falloff and onto a 28mm x 18mm frame with some falloff (hotspot effect). In the aerial image mode, there is also the same falloff at the sides, especially with the 16:9 cameras.)
Any thoughts or suggestions on the matter anybody?