Chris Baldwin
January 4th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I posted this in another thread but no one responded so I'm sorry to repost but its my number 1 hurdle to buying this camera and I need to figure out an answer.
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I'm extremely eager to get a definitively proven, flexible, fast, and affordable workflow for this camera. . .for the freelancer.
Is there any way of using a firestore/cineporter to record to and then making a copy to an external hard drive without a laptop?
What's the fastest the transfer will occur? And will the copied drive mount exactly as a P2 card? Is there a way of doing this with the same reliability statistics that Panasonic demands out of their P2 and complementing smart Hard Drive partners?
I work as a freelance shooter for production companies and news stations. How do I go into the field with enough storage to shoot for a full day(6 hours lets say totaled up) and give my clients media for editing that day?
Looks like top speed is 1 gig a minute of transfer speed... which is actually real time for the capture of the Highest quality HD formats with the HVX.
It seems like I would need at a minimum two 100gig smart hard drives that capture in lew of P2 cards and then at least a realtime(1gig/1min) transfer procedure to some sort of one button firewire or USB2 external hard drive that doesn't need a computer to transfer. The ipod is an interesting idea becasue of size but I'm intrigued that the posts are suggested that there are products out there that will accomplish all this for much cheaper and faster.
I have no idea of which slew of products will accomplish this and I'd love to pool our resources and come up with a list to do so.
I've just spoken to one of Specialized Communication's product specialists for the Cineporter named David. I relayed my need as a freelancer to be able to give my clients media immediately following a shoot. I told him that I still need to be able to shoot a full day's worth of content (probably up to 6 hours max), and then give a client an exact copy of the media. I'd prefer this to be on a hard drive of some sort with the fastest transfer speeds possible(PCMCIA???). He aggreed that obviously affordable hot swappable hard drives that can be removed from the cineporter and mounted on any NLE system exactly like the P2 is the most attractive; especially if the swappable drive is affordable enough to purchase a few of them for longer shoots or multiple clients.
He began to discuss some sort of USB on the go solution that they had been considering but said they hadn't finished working out what solution to this problem they'd chose. I relayed that I feared the transfer speed over USB or even Firewire 800 would just be too slow considering a full day of production demands much more than baby-sitting a drive transferring media at close to real time.
I need to give my clients media at the end of the day without waiting more than an average amount of time it would take to wrap a shoot setup(tops-1 hour). And I need enough storage to compete with a "tape-based" content acquisition shoot.(probably max of 6 hours a day)
And finally as a freelancer I need to be able to afford the whole setup: camera, Smart Hard Drive, and multiple client media drives.
It seems the folks making the Cineporter understand all of this very well. That's good at least. But they are undecided as to give us USB on the go, exchangable hard drives, or lead us towards burning to blueray... If the 200 gig Cineporter was between $500-1000 great I'd buy two three four maybe over time and rent them to clients at the end of a shoot to transfer to their systems overnight...OR better yet try to convince them to buy their own and I'd supply the camera. But they aren't and this leaves me without a practical solution for giving my clients media the same day we capture it.
I'm desparately trying to stay ahead of the competition here and to help push the P2 - non-tape based workflow and I would LOVE to get a new HVX200 but I need to be able to find a freelance system that I can sell to my clients.
What are the solutions?
Thanks!!
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I'm extremely eager to get a definitively proven, flexible, fast, and affordable workflow for this camera. . .for the freelancer.
Is there any way of using a firestore/cineporter to record to and then making a copy to an external hard drive without a laptop?
What's the fastest the transfer will occur? And will the copied drive mount exactly as a P2 card? Is there a way of doing this with the same reliability statistics that Panasonic demands out of their P2 and complementing smart Hard Drive partners?
I work as a freelance shooter for production companies and news stations. How do I go into the field with enough storage to shoot for a full day(6 hours lets say totaled up) and give my clients media for editing that day?
Looks like top speed is 1 gig a minute of transfer speed... which is actually real time for the capture of the Highest quality HD formats with the HVX.
It seems like I would need at a minimum two 100gig smart hard drives that capture in lew of P2 cards and then at least a realtime(1gig/1min) transfer procedure to some sort of one button firewire or USB2 external hard drive that doesn't need a computer to transfer. The ipod is an interesting idea becasue of size but I'm intrigued that the posts are suggested that there are products out there that will accomplish all this for much cheaper and faster.
I have no idea of which slew of products will accomplish this and I'd love to pool our resources and come up with a list to do so.
I've just spoken to one of Specialized Communication's product specialists for the Cineporter named David. I relayed my need as a freelancer to be able to give my clients media immediately following a shoot. I told him that I still need to be able to shoot a full day's worth of content (probably up to 6 hours max), and then give a client an exact copy of the media. I'd prefer this to be on a hard drive of some sort with the fastest transfer speeds possible(PCMCIA???). He aggreed that obviously affordable hot swappable hard drives that can be removed from the cineporter and mounted on any NLE system exactly like the P2 is the most attractive; especially if the swappable drive is affordable enough to purchase a few of them for longer shoots or multiple clients.
He began to discuss some sort of USB on the go solution that they had been considering but said they hadn't finished working out what solution to this problem they'd chose. I relayed that I feared the transfer speed over USB or even Firewire 800 would just be too slow considering a full day of production demands much more than baby-sitting a drive transferring media at close to real time.
I need to give my clients media at the end of the day without waiting more than an average amount of time it would take to wrap a shoot setup(tops-1 hour). And I need enough storage to compete with a "tape-based" content acquisition shoot.(probably max of 6 hours a day)
And finally as a freelancer I need to be able to afford the whole setup: camera, Smart Hard Drive, and multiple client media drives.
It seems the folks making the Cineporter understand all of this very well. That's good at least. But they are undecided as to give us USB on the go, exchangable hard drives, or lead us towards burning to blueray... If the 200 gig Cineporter was between $500-1000 great I'd buy two three four maybe over time and rent them to clients at the end of a shoot to transfer to their systems overnight...OR better yet try to convince them to buy their own and I'd supply the camera. But they aren't and this leaves me without a practical solution for giving my clients media the same day we capture it.
I'm desparately trying to stay ahead of the competition here and to help push the P2 - non-tape based workflow and I would LOVE to get a new HVX200 but I need to be able to find a freelance system that I can sell to my clients.
What are the solutions?
Thanks!!