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Jonathan Grant
September 16th, 2006, 11:05 PM
We accidently deleted the imported video files so the premiere project shows media offline. My friend said that the digital video has an embedded timecode so it doesn't matter where the tape is when you put it in the camera it won't start at 00:00:00 it will start wherever it left off. That gave me hope that it would be possible to reimport the video and somehow have Premiere relink it. Shouldn't premiere know the embedded timecode of the imported footage and be able to match up with that?

Ed Smith
September 17th, 2006, 05:32 AM
Hi Lars,

Just a few things.

1) When you capture with Scenalyzer what format are you capturing to. what about if you capture within premiere? Do you get the same probs?

2) There might not be enough data thru-put to the drives. how are your SATA2 disks arranged? Another good idea would be to find a freeware program that tells you the read and write speed of your drives (bench marking), this will tell you if the drives are fast enough to cope.

3) All though you might have closed all your apps, they might still be running. i.e. if you have an anti virus program make sure that it is disabled, if you are using google desktop it still could be using resources etc.

4) Open up task manager and see what the performance of the CPU is like when you are editing. If you set task manager to always be on top, if you place it in a corner of the screen, so that when the video begins to jerk you can see if you get any spikes in the graph.

5) Play back the clips in windows media player 5 times and see if they 'jerk'.

Just a few thoughts,

Frank Hool
September 17th, 2006, 08:09 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not vga card problem, sometimes i run ap with very poor vga(except S3). If it follows You whatever hardware You're using then it should be related someway to Your habbits: Screenalyzer(as said yourself), antivirus(as said Ed), codecs...etc. Btw what contains the list currently runs in Your PC?

Lars Siden
September 17th, 2006, 10:49 AM
Thanks for your input!

This time PPro behaves rather well :-) I can even have it running in the background for several hours and the activate it again without it "doing stuff" for 4-5 minutes.

I'll keep close tabs on what else I install - and see if there are some software that premiere pro really doesn't like. I am a professional software developer - so I have some "strange" SW on my pooter!

Happy editing!

//Lazze

Harry Lender
September 17th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I have a small problem in recording voiceovers in Prempro 1.5. I have done the setup and I get the voice as I'm speaking and it is recording to the target track no problem there. However it's doing a double recording and building in volume ontop of itself. If I stop speaking it continues playing and records what I recorded on top of itself. If I would let it continue the volume would build to infinity. I hope I'm explaining it correctly. I'm fairly sure I havn't set something correctly. I'm not sure what at this point. It seems like there's a doulbe feed coming in. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Harry

Jonathan Grant
September 17th, 2006, 01:49 PM
anyone know the answer to my question?

Cal Johnson
September 17th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Harry, I'll try to help not as a Premiere expert, but just as someone who has done a lot of recording. What you are describing is an "infinite feedback loop". This is caused by the "source" that is being recorded is also the output of the recorder. I would suspect that there is an option to "monitor audio during recording" and that if you set this to off, your problem may be solved. Whatever the remedy setting may be, it sounds certain that the computer is recording what it is playing back, so as you speak, the out-put actually gets recorded, then played back, then recorded again and so-on. Your monitor volume is probably slightly louder that your input, this is what would cause the recording to become louder and louder as it feeds back on itself. Try to trace down in your setting how the record function is including what you are monitoring. Hope this helps.

Bill Mecca
September 18th, 2006, 08:51 AM
also check your window mixer to make sure you have chosen the line input
(you are using line for the mic correct?) and not the "record what you hear" or "stereo mix" selection.

if on a mac, well I can't help ya there

Harry Lender
September 18th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Cal And Bill
Thanks for your help. After doing several checks I finally found out that the Master volume control has to be pulled all the way down to avoid the feedback loop Cal refered to. Then boosting it back up in order to listen to the final result. Again thanks so much.

Harry

Tyson Persall
September 18th, 2006, 09:45 PM
How come there is a conveniat HDV preset to choose for your project settings but there are not HDV render settings to choose.
When Im editing in HDV 1080i mode, and I want to render a file out- to be able to use it in the same project -what should my render settings be? It defaults to Microsoft DV AVI. I know HDV is MPEG-2 right? So what do I type in?

Rafael Lopes
September 19th, 2006, 05:45 AM
Hi,

I've been having problems capturing footage on premiere pro 2.0 because everything looks WAY darker. I played the footage directly from the FX1 to a tv and it looked exactly the way I shot it, the way I like it, the way it apears on the lcd. Then I captured this same footage with premiere and it looks WAY too dark. I tried playing it from the timeline, I tried playing it with media player classic, vlc, windows media player, etc...it always looked too dark.

So, my question is: is there a GOOD application (outside premiere) that I can use JUST TO CAPTURE the footage, that will still allow me to import it to premiere and edit it there?

Marco Wagner
September 19th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Same thing happened to me on a rather large project. I had to restore from an Auto-Save...

Ben Winter
September 19th, 2006, 02:15 PM
Yes, this happened to me before. Navigate to your project folder and open up the most recently modified auto-save project file. You shouldn't be too far from where you left off.

Rafael Lopes
September 19th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Never mind. I tried capturing with vegas and the footage is still dark. I think it may be something to do with the graphic card.

Andrea Lair
September 20th, 2006, 06:37 AM
I use Premiere Elements 2.0 for my editing. I just finished editing a 1.5 hour long wedding video. Everything looks great, except for ONE clip. While viewing this ~10 second clip, the audio looks fine, matching up with the lips of the person talking. However, when I burn the DVD and view on my TV, the audio is out of sync by ~0.5 seconds. It is very noticable so it needs to be fixed. This is only happening on this one particular clip, the rest of the DVD looks fine. What is additionally puzzling is that the audio track is grouped with several video clips, so why would only this one clip be off?

Can anyone tell me what the heck is going on? I need to get this finished ASAP. I told the bride I would have it done by this Saturday. Thanks!!

Cal Johnson
September 20th, 2006, 10:32 AM
I was working away with 2.0, and suddenly noticed that my display setting for time code now seem to be set to "total frames" rather than frames and seconds etc. I went to Preferences, General, and set the display back to normal settings, but it still only displays frames, a total count. Anyone know what's up?

Denis Danatzko
September 20th, 2006, 11:01 AM
When using multi-line text in menus, it's necessary to add multiple blank lines
between the lines of text. Example, my scene description looks like this:

"Scene name line 1



Scene name line 2



Scene name line 3"

I can insert multiple blank lines via CTRL+ENTER, (similar to adding a new page in MS Word), but that doesn't space the lines of text properly. To do that, I have to add the multiple blank lines. If I don't, then each text line just lays on top of each other.

The same thing seems to happen with Main Menu text, too.

Does anyone know of a workaround for this? Or maybe a patch/update for PP 2.0? Or does this provide some benefit that I don't recognize?

Roger Averdahl
September 20th, 2006, 11:11 AM
Go to Project > Project Settings > General and change Display Format from Frames to anything else that has the word Timecode in it. (25 fps Timecode if you edit PAL.)

/Roger

Cal Johnson
September 20th, 2006, 11:54 AM
uh, thanks Roger... I'm really tired as I was up all night, so my post wasn't too clear. That is where I am going, and when I reset the timecode option, it doesn't change anything. Its as if the project is stuck in that mode and won't get out of it.

Roger Averdahl
September 20th, 2006, 01:21 PM
...and when I reset the timecode option, it doesn't change anything.
What do you set the Display Format to?

/Roger

Ervin Farkas
September 20th, 2006, 09:01 PM
My guess is that at some point during editing you have unlinked audio and video and forgot about it... I would try moving the audio of that clip on a different track and dragging it back or forth to sync it.

Jerry Porter
September 21st, 2006, 08:19 AM
I have a spot that is closed capioned and I need to have it encoded for web download (easily done in PP2), but here's the question. Will the CC stay with it? I'm not sure how that works and I can't use it if it's not CC. Anyone do this?

Per Sjoborg
September 23rd, 2006, 04:42 AM
Hi there!
I have shoot some sceens with one XL2. Super quality.

But, when i render to DVD in premiere elements the quality just aint the same, it gets, i how should i put it...a lite bit pixelated. The sharpness och details get a little bit dul compera to the original.

Any one experience the same problem?

Rob Lohman
September 23rd, 2006, 07:34 AM
Hi Per, welcome aboard DV Info Net.

It would be a great help if you could provide some more information like the
steps you go through, which presets you are using and any other settings
(especially for the export).

Per Sjoborg
September 23rd, 2006, 09:58 AM
ok, I´m kind of a newbee on thise, but i seams like the only setting i can change when exporting to DVD is the bitrate, and the maximum for thise is 8.00 Mbps.

Thank you by the way! Fun to be here!

Bruce Pelley
September 23rd, 2006, 09:00 PM
Greetings from the newbie,

This definitely is a quantum leap up from version 6.5 which I was using for some time.I could only afford the "educational" version.Are there any differences between this and the full blown retail version which lists for $500 more?

My opening question to the forum is this:

My goal is to have the entire audiotrack be uniform in both quality and amptitude.Yes,I know how to normalize clip by clip but not the whole project at once.Is that possible and if so how is that done?I ask that because right now the individual clips & segments on the timeframe have varying levels of audio.They all need to be the same,i.e. normalized.

The follow up question is when exporting a completed project to tape,is there a combination of settings to make sure is enabled/active or something I should do before I select export to tape or will it just port over seemlessly and flawlessly without any futher ado?

Thanks,
Bruce

Caroline Troedsson
September 24th, 2006, 05:05 AM
I've got the exact same problem! Why can't I get super quality on the DVD like the .avi file? It's extremely annoying! I've tried to change bitrate, but I don't seem to manage to get it right..

Most grateful for any help and advice!

Jeff Bettendorf
September 26th, 2006, 01:03 PM
So I have the original uncut footage in my main sequence. Then, following the directions from the PP help menu, I made a new sequence with some footage and edited it using the multi cam feature. My footage is all edited the way I want it and I "recorded" it (although I don't understand the purpose). Now I went back to the main time line and tried to delete the original uncut footage and *poof* my edited, recorded, multicam shots were gone. When I undo and add the uncut footage back to the main timeline VOILA my images return to my multi cam sequence.

What I *want* to do is delete the old footage and replace it on the main timeline with my edited footage. How do I do this?

Mike Horrigan
September 26th, 2006, 01:33 PM
"[\dev\starsky\MediaLayer\Src\AESupport\AEInData.cpp-692]"

...when using Adobe media encoder.

Something else about missing a frame.

Any ideas?

K. Tessman
September 26th, 2006, 03:43 PM
I'm planning to do two different versions of a sequence, one with certain video effects applied, and one without. The easiest way would be to just to a master edit of everything as the "without" version, then copy that timeline and go through and apply the various effects to each clip in the copied "with" timeline.

Problem is, if I then have to go back and make any edits to the "without" timeline, I'd have to mirror them in the "with" timeline. Or vice-versa. It's possible, but error-prone.

Is there a way that anyone's aware of to only conditionally apply effects (and only certain effects, at that)?

(I'm guessing the answer is no, and I can think of a couple of potentially hacky ways around it, but I thought I'd throw it out here.)

Graham Hickling
September 26th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Regard your 'without' version as Sequence 1. Now create a new Sequence 2. I import sequence 1 into it ...then apply the extra affects.

Then when you are finally done and ready to export, copy the project, and then revert the copied version back to Sequence 1 before exporting.

I think that gets you were you want to be.

Severo Contreras
September 26th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Thank you guys.

I did just that, opened the auto save file. But later the original did open, go figure!

Severo

K. Tessman
September 26th, 2006, 11:38 PM
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I'm not sure how this gets around having to reapply the effects if I make changes to the "without" sequence that change timing, etc. I should mention that these are per shot/clip effects.

For instance, if I have a sequence of clips A-B-C, and C has a particular effect to be conditionally applied to it, and I trim the original sequence so that B is slightly shorter...see what I mean?

Graham Hickling
September 27th, 2006, 05:50 AM
True - if you change the timing of sequence 1, I doubt my suggestion will work.

George Odell
September 27th, 2006, 12:08 PM
I saw a very interesting device at a video show recently made by a company called Tarenex. It could take in 480I and upconvert to 720P and 1080I and do so very nicely.

What I was impressed with was how it took and stretched the image left and right. It left the center of the picture pretty much alone and progressively stretched the ends out. This was much less noticeable distortion-wise since your eye tends to go to the center of the picture where the action is.

I'm looking for something to do this but in standard def. Take 4:3 and make it 16:9 and still look acceptable. I'd shoot with the image frame cropped to take care of top and bottom. Just need to do stretch the sides.

Question: Does anyone know if a software plugin for Premiere or even a standalone that works on the same principle?

Thanks!

BTW: I did find these free presets for the Premiere motion filter on a site. Not sure how well they will work but will give them a try. http://www.mykaskin.freeserve.co.uk/myksvideopages/plugins.html

Kyle Ringin
September 27th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Hi George,
My TV has a setting to do the same thing - 'Panorama'
FWIW it can be OK but is distracting when you pan, and if you are having composition with subjects set 1/3 or less from the frame edge.

Sorry - can't help with the plugins.

Cheers.

George Odell
September 28th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Kyle:

Funny you should be the one to reply first. This all came about because I'm shooting some material for Australian television. The producer is requiring 16:9 since all TV is 16:9 in your country. Is this really the case?

Currently I'm needing to rent a camera to complete the work but they did
offer to look at a conversion from 4:3 to 16:9.

Wes Coughlin
September 28th, 2006, 09:08 AM
I prefer not to normalize audio in premiere (does not seem to work right all the time). I would start with the audio mixer and get as close as you can to what you want. Then export audio only, bring it into adobe audition (or back into premiere), and normalize that audio clip.

Exporting to tape, just plug in camera, set to VCR mode, and click export to tape.

Wayne Joy
September 28th, 2006, 03:05 PM
As far as I know there is no difference between the "Educational" and regular version.

Greetings from the newbie,

This definitely is a quantum leap up from version 6.5 which I was using for some time.I could only afford the "educational" version.Are there any differences between this and the full blown retail version which lists for $500 more?

My opening question to the forum is this:

My goal is to have the entire audiotrack be uniform in both quality and amptitude.Yes,I know how to normalize clip by clip but not the whole project at once.Is that possible and if so how is that done?I ask that because right now the individual clips & segments on the timeframe have varying levels of audio.They all need to be the same,i.e. normalized.

The follow up question is when exporting a completed project to tape,is there a combination of settings to make sure is enabled/active or something I should do before I select export to tape or will it just port over seemlessly and flawlessly without any futher ado?

Thanks,
Bruce

Ryan Manes
September 28th, 2006, 04:46 PM
I shot some footage for a client and gave it to them on a HDD, they are editing in Premiere Pro 2 and can't figure out how to import it.

We are a mac based post facility so I have no idea how Premiere handles this.

According to Adobes web site it will except P2 MXF, but they don't explain how to do it. The clients not an editor and I can't convince them to just let us edit it.

Does anyone no how to import MXF Files into Premiere Pro 2 off a HDD

Kyle Ringin
September 29th, 2006, 12:13 AM
George,
I wouldn't say all TV is 16:9, but almost all new programs are broadcast 16:9 on digital (HD and/or SD) and while analogue used to always be full frame 4:3, more and more is being shown letterboxed to 14:9 - Although the only time I watch analogue is when I visit my folks so that might not be current anymore.
Personally I hate watching a good, new program in 4:3 - especially on my widescreen TV...

BTW regarding the panorama thing - I thought I'd use it a fair bit, but I found I didn't really like it. If I get a DVD or something that is 4:3 I just watch it in 4:3. Panorama is too distracting, I'm always watching the edges of the frame to see what's out of proportion.

Cheers.

Matt Ramphal
September 29th, 2006, 10:51 AM
Is this a problem? I've read various reports,most saying it doesn't matter...Although I'm not sure....

I've just discovered the option to do custom project settings...Is it better to start from the DVX 24p setting, and just change the framerate to 29.97?

Will that give me a proper capture????

Thanks...

Eric Lagerlof
September 29th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Wayne, the problem with normalizing a clip in PPRo is that it looks at the highest level in the clip and lifts the audio gain in the clip enough to bring that highest bit to 0db. For example, you record people around a table and most of the dialog is very low but someone thumps a glass down on the table loudly. Normalizing the clip may bring the gain down to make sure the thump of the glass is at and not above 0db, making the dialog even quieter. Just to say, unless the audio levels are consistent, longer clips may give you more problems when normalizing.

You can normalize long clips in the project window before they get cut up in the timeline, and that will save you having to normalize each smaller instance of the clip later.

You might want to explore the compressor as well for level adjustments. Having said that, and keeping in mind that I agree with the above post about using the mixer, you can, in PPro, use the expanded mixer and set dynamic effects in the track mixer. That will set the effect for the whole track as opposed to doing it for an individual clip.

Bart Walczak
September 30th, 2006, 06:32 PM
What for?

If you need it, you can try exporting the edited footage and then replacing the sequence with the rendered version but you loose the editability then.

Jason Leonard
October 1st, 2006, 01:49 PM
i've asked this once before, but i have to bring it up once more.
notice the lines in this frame grab, i cant get rid of them.
i dont know if it's happening on capture or what.
i am about to prepare for my cut and ingest all of this stuff for my flick and i obviously cant have these lines.
i've tried to export to tape and see if the lines would disappear on a standard tv but they are still visible.
anyone have any thoughts on this?
thanks in advance.

Ervin Farkas
October 1st, 2006, 02:07 PM
Are you talking about the black bars on the sides?

Jason Leonard
October 1st, 2006, 03:14 PM
yeah, sorry.
any clue?
i've been using premiere for a long time and never had this problem.
feeling stupid....

Ervin Farkas
October 2nd, 2006, 04:23 AM
I would simply increase my horizontal width.

John Sullivan
October 2nd, 2006, 09:16 PM
We have just made a sale to a TV network in New Zealand. They want Digital Betacam masters with stereo or dual mono on tracks 1 and 2 and M&E on Tks 3 and 4.
The trouble is that in the project, I have placed live location sound on audio 1 and that includes stereo and mono sound. On audio 2 I placed a mono voiceover and on audio 3 I placed stereo music.
The question is how do I get to TV requirements without a sound sweetening session using Premiere Pro 1.5?
How can I produce dual mono?

Al Ioimo
October 2nd, 2006, 10:43 PM
When I make a photo montage in Premier Pro the first thing I do is listen to the song and tag the beats and measures on the timeline. Then I tag the climax of the song. By doing this I am able to have the photos change to the beat of the music, and then let loose at a drum fill. It works really good inside Premier. However, when I burn to DVD it seems as if the drum sync does not line up when watching the finished product. What is causing this problem?

Any help would be appreciated,

Al Ioimo.