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Ervin Farkas
July 25th, 2006, 02:00 PM
This is something we all do from time to time... Has anyone here compared the quality of the video using a digital8 camera with the quality of the video using an analog camera and a high quality capture card?

Richard Corfield
July 26th, 2006, 06:54 AM
I'm getting serious sound distortion with my new Sony Vaio laptop, VGN-AR18GP which is pretty well their top of the line machine. This is with Premiere pro 1.5 or 2.0, and is even there with their Premiere elements which is pre-loaded on the computer. The distortion sounds like reflections or reverberations of the sound. I can sort of make out the sound but I really can't work with it. Terrible on music. Has anyone experienced anything like this on sony vaio machines? I've tried re-installing the pro programs with no effect. I think it might be something to do with the conformed audio files because the old Premiere 6.0 plays files without any problem. The same thing happens with HDV files played with Aspect HD.

K. Forman
July 27th, 2006, 07:30 AM
I've been doing manual captures and batch captures via firewire, and have never been able to use the scene detect. It is always greyed out. What's up with this? Is it me, the cam, the program, or the evil monkey that lives in my closet?

Jack Major
July 27th, 2006, 06:14 PM
how come thew beginning will be in siync sound wise and then about a quarter of the way through it will go all messed up and out of sync with the video?

Jack Major
July 28th, 2006, 12:13 AM
is there anyway besides reducing the res to like dvd res. The film is about 20 min. long.

Christopher Lefchik
July 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM
If you mean so that the footage can be played on ordinary DVD players, no, it is not possible. The DVD spec does not allow for HD footage. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are your only choice, and right now the burners and players are expensive.

On the other hand, if you only want to put an HD Windows Media or QuickTime H.264 file on the DVD for computer playback, then yes, that is possible. Adobe Media Encoder has HD Windows Media presets; you would have to adjust the settings on your own for QuickTime HD H.264 output.

Jay Yellamaty
July 28th, 2006, 04:34 PM
It's a MPEG thingy. This feature not available for any camera that records in the mpeg format.

Jay Yellamaty
July 28th, 2006, 05:01 PM
you should give a few details about your project such as length, source video, type of project etc" so that some one on this board can answer

K. Forman
July 28th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Doh! Thanks, I would have never figured it out. I should be able to run a tape through the capture in DV, log the clips, then batch capture in HDV, right?

P.S. I think I got lost up in your neck of the woods once :)

Matt Vanecek
July 30th, 2006, 12:17 PM
I have a couple of projects. Project B was created by importing project A. I did some moving around, chopping, etc., in Project B to suit my needs. As sometimes happens, I discovered that I needed something else from project A that had already been cut from project B. So I re-import project A into project B.

Now, due to the reimport, project B has duplicates of some of the assets, which I cannot seem to delete. If I try, then PPro (1.5.1) tells me the assets are used in a sequence, etc., etc. E.g., Video X points to the same physical file as Video Y, but I cannot delete either one because sequences reference either video X OR video Y.

Is there a way I can "merge" the duplicated assets, so that I end up with only one occurrence of the asset without having to redo a certain amount of work? I.e., change all sequences referring to Video Y to point to Video X instead? It's the same physical file...

I guess I'm looking for a workaround for my own braindeadness and lack of forethought...

Thanks,
Matt

Steven Gotz
July 30th, 2006, 01:04 PM
I suppose you could have made a copy of project A and made it Project C. Then delete everything that would be a duplicate, Then import C into B.

There is not currently any way to merge.

Jack Major
July 30th, 2006, 01:29 PM
whenever i make titles for the film which is 20 minutes long it speeds through them too fast then screws up the audio later in the film, however when i play it in the source window before rendering it it plays fine whats up with that and how do i fox it, my project is in 1080i HD 29.97 project setting. Help on fixing this titles issue?

Jim Kunz
July 30th, 2006, 05:47 PM
Hey all. I thought I'd pretty much nailed all the basics in Premiere Pro 2.0, but I'm stuck again!

I have a quick couple of projects that are only going to be 320x240 and viewed on the web. The content is all made up of existing web video and images, which I've been stylizing in After Effects.

There is no Custom Preset in PP2 for web stuff so I made a custom 320x240 @ 24fps | editing mode: Desktop | pixel aspect: Square 1.0 | Progressive no fields. I get an error when using the default Rendering setting: Canopus DV Codec so I went to find one that worked in the pulldown.. and I'm unhappy with pretty much all of them - even selecting "none" under the Compression pulldown looks blurry.

Is there something I am overlooking - is there a standard preview-render setting people use when making web-only video not involving any DV?

Thanks!

Graham Hickling
July 31st, 2006, 09:06 AM
In addition, there are a small number of standalone players that will play HD material (mpeg2 and/or wmv) that has been burned onto standard red-laser DVD-Rs: the Avel Linkplayer2 being a good example.

Chris Hurd
July 31st, 2006, 10:50 PM
Actually some D8 camcorders offer Hi8 playback and some do not. The only model listed by B&H that's still current is the TRV280 and it does *not* have Hi8 playback. The TRV480 does, but try finding one. Just recently I wound up buying a D8 deck, the GVD200, for only a little more than what the TRV480 would have cost. FireWire output of Hi8 sources makes it highly desirable.

Jack Major
August 1st, 2006, 02:02 PM
after i render something the titles will spped by too quickly and mess up the audio sync. anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Ervin Farkas
August 1st, 2006, 02:23 PM
Right click on the title in the timeline, then go to speed/duration and set it where you want it. Make sure video and audio are linked.

Jack Major
August 1st, 2006, 02:58 PM
it runs smoothly in the prject window however after i render the titles speed through extremely fast, its weird.

Jon Pavli
August 7th, 2006, 05:34 PM
Hello all,

I have black bars on the left and right of my video (it is caused by Canon's XL1 camera). My question is, how can I get rid of the bars?

I need to give the video to another person to edit and they are complaining that my video has bars on it...what can I do?

Are there any work arounds within Premiere Pro 1.0? I am hoping to correct this in a hurry.

Cheers, Jon

Chris Harris
August 7th, 2006, 06:14 PM
You could either increase the scale until the bars are gone (but lose some picture on the top and bottom), or you could uncheck the "keep aspect ratio" box and stretch the picture to fill the screen.

Jon Pavli
August 7th, 2006, 09:23 PM
Chris,

Thanks for the tip and suggestion...I will see what I can do about the video.

Cheers, Jon

James Lundy
August 8th, 2006, 06:03 AM
Crikey!

My audio mixer has vanished, and won't appear onscreen. This is even after I've clicked on it under the Window menu.

Any suggestions?

James Lundy
August 8th, 2006, 09:36 AM
Never mind I got it back.

I just opened up an old project, and saves it with a new name after importing all the required files. Might not be the best way to do it, but it was the only way that worked.

:)

Jim Lee
August 8th, 2006, 09:49 AM
Hi guys, i've seem to run into a bit of a problem while editing.

When i bring in psd image with transparency into my video, and apply some perspective effect in it, I notice that the perspective animation of the image is noticeably choppy, makes it look like its going at 10 fps, while the other stuff in the video is fine.

This is in the exported DV avi video, not in any compressed format.

Any insights?

Denis Potasnikov
August 9th, 2006, 12:31 AM
I have a project of 75 minutes without much effects or transitions.While burning to DVD, it shows the transcoding error on about 25% of encoding.
A week ago I did the project of 65 minutes and it all went perfect.
Now this error message appears.I also cannot export the projects as a file:"can't complie movie" appears.
But:I split the project into two parts (30 mins and 45 mins) and burned them separately on different one-sided dvd disks. But this is not a solution as it needs to be on one disk as a normal movie.Has anybody had the same problem?

Steven Gotz
August 9th, 2006, 03:08 PM
Next time just go back to the default workspace.

Chris Barcellos
August 13th, 2006, 11:07 AM
I trying to render a Quicktime file from a HDV 1080i project (for posting in DVChallenge). I wanted two levels for my 3 minute film. One about 25 megs and one around 100 mgs. So far, I have rendered and come up with nothing but a 2kb file after a render of a couple of hours. That tells me I am trying to render to something that the QT encoder won't work with. Anybody got some sure fire setting, including what actual encoder to use (Sorenson, Sorenson 3, or what, size, etc.) I do have QuicktimePro, as alternative, but seem to have similar problems. In that case I rendered to an intermediate (Cineform) avi file, and tried export after opening in QT, but it did not work either.

Thanks in advance.

Janice DeMille
August 14th, 2006, 06:34 AM
Hello all, I have a project that was shot in two different formats. One is widescreen and the other standard. When I import the widescreen as standard I lose image quality, ditto when I import as widescreen and then pull it into my standard project. Does anyone have an idea how to keep the picture sharp when doing this? Are there any settings I could use?

thanks

Michael Littlejohn
August 15th, 2006, 05:15 PM
1. In Premiere Pro 1.5, what standard effect looks most like a film look? I can't find it.

2. I was watching ABC World News Tonight and they do a lot of stills, but add just a little bit of motion to the picture to give it a nice effect. I tried using the motion effect in the Fixed Effect Control and it works, but it's just a bit jittery in the preview window. How can I get it seamless and smooth?

Tim Bickford
August 16th, 2006, 08:54 AM
Michael,

To make things a bit smoother try lengthening the time of the still image in your timeline. (i.e. 10 to 15 seconds.). Have your pans move across the entire length of the image. If you have a gradual pan from (say left to right) try stoping the pan a few seconds before the image reaches then end of time. I sometimes start zoomed in - then slowing zoom out. Again... if the image is short on the timeline (i.e. couple of seconds) your pans and zooms are going to be very fast.

Take a look at some of Ken Burns stuff (i.e. Civil War, Baseball). He is the master at working with stills. You will need a higher resolution image to get good quality zooms.

As for the film look... are trying to get finished video of stills to look like old used film (i.e. scrathes and dust) or are you attempting to get a cinematic look?

I am not aware of any way (in P-Pro 1.5) to get the scrathes and dust look unless you use a plugin (i.e. Magic Bullet). Perhaps P-Pro-2.0 has something.


Hope that helps..

Tim

Michael Littlejohn
August 16th, 2006, 10:48 AM
Well, i'm having a hard time getting my 6 minute video w/ effects to burn to my DVD player.

Actually, let me go back. I tried a smaller clip to test the process and it worked fine.

So, I rendered my 6 minute video, chose File>Export>Export to DVD. At that time it reads my DVD Burner in my machine, gives it the go-ahead by making the record button active and away I go. Under the default settings it gets hung up almost immediatley, If I reduce the quality, it lets it burn all the way to the end and right before it fnishes, it says that an error occurs.

Is this a setting thing or is the file too large? Why did it work w/ the smaller clip, but not with the larger one?

Also, If I use the encoder, how can I burn the video and audio to make a DVD? What program does a good job of this? Can I do the final product in Premiere? I did use the encoder, and was able to save the file, however, when I try to upload the files in NERO, it does not recognize them????

Bart Walczak
August 16th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I use Adobe Encore but you can use any DVD authoring tool for files exported via Media Encoder with MPEG2-DVD settings.

If you export your clips via Media Encoder, do you still get the same error?

If you render your project into a single DV file and then export from a new timeline, do you get the error too?

What is your system's specs?

Best regards
Bart Walczak

Michael Littlejohn
August 16th, 2006, 02:51 PM
I just got my project up and running and I have lots of raw audio that is laid over the original footage. It sounds ok. (Documentery sytle)

Are there any standard effects that you like to use to "professionalize" the sound, or do you guys like to keep the raw sound?

Nick Weeks
August 16th, 2006, 03:07 PM
What I've heard to do with voice overs is make a copy of the voice track (so you have 2 tracks), apply compression to one track, and leave the other as is... then mix the two together. This is supposed to give it a nice "full" but still dynamic sound.

I've never actually tried it, but it sounds feasable

Steve Wolla
August 16th, 2006, 10:01 PM
I'm running Premiere Pro 1.5 and am also having problems that are similar in nature. I think That I was able to make Export to DVD work alright, but....I cannot render down to a MPEG2 or MPEG2-DVD using the Media Encoder. I get an error message that states "Adobe Premire Pro failed to return a video frame--cancelling operation".
Are these common problems with Premiere? Is there a fix?
My film is 39 minutes in length. Somehow last friday I made it work, and got a MPEG@ file that I can export to my DVD authoring program (Roxio Easy Media 8). But I cannot repeat it.
On another project of only 7 minutes long, I got the same message and it came back and said there was a "transcoding error". My presets were for MPEG2-DVD
"NTSC 4x3 High Quality 7mb cbr 1 pass". I am not at all sure this is correct, I am new to DVD authoring. Any help would sure be appreciated.
SW

Jacob Walker
August 17th, 2006, 08:51 AM
A "professionalize" sound comes from a "professionalize" recording. Any audio source that is recorded professionally generally will not require as much post work for it to sound great.

An EQ and a compressor are the two most common used tools to enhance an audio clip. Go to wikipedia and read their articles on “Audio level compression” and “equalization”. To be honest it’s not the tools you use, but how you use them. A poor recording will require better tools to fix in post. I’ve used everything from premiere plug-ins to Adobe auditions, waves, universal audio, and renting professional studios to do mixing, or post work. I have gotten professional results with all different tools.

Sorry I’m not giving you a magic formula for a “professional” sound, but that’s because there is none. I approach every clip with “what is this clip needs” and “what sounds bad that needs to be taken out”. Half the time when you fix one the other will fix itself.

Lots of people on this board are a one man show. So just like video, to get good results you have to study, and practice. Once you have some head knowledge you can analyze professional sounds, and then apply all that learning to your recordings.

Especially in the recording industry everyone has their way of doing things and their opinions on what sounds “good”. That’s why it’s best to study up, listen to what you know is done by pros, and then make the decisions yourself on what is “pro” sounding. Nicks suggestion is a good suggestion, to take the same track double it apply different effects and then mix them together is quick and dirty way to get more volume and life out of a clip that seems to be dull and quiet. Again though a properly recorded clip will hold its own with smaller amounts of processing. But most times we work with less than perfect situations, so experience and trusting your ears are the most important.

Did you have any specific questions like a clip that you think lacks something and how to fix it? There is no right and wrong, whatever your ears tell you is what counts.

Bart Walczak
August 18th, 2006, 03:42 PM
What is your system specs? If you have not enough memory, these effects can be quite common. Also, I had a lot of troubles on AthlonXP 3000+ and Soltek mainboard, definately one of the worst configurations to work with Adobe Premiere.

Are you able to export your project to a DV file? Try making a new project and inserting the DV file and then exporting it to DVD or using the Media Encoder. Do you still get the mistakes?

If you haven't updated to 1.5.1, it would be wise to do so, there is also a fix for Adobe Media Encoder somewhere on the MainConcept site for the Pro 1.5 version. I don't remember the URL, but if you type it in google, you should find it.

Hope this helps.

David Walding
August 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM
I have a video I produced in AP 2.0 that looks great on the computer, and even looks great in several formats of MPG on another computer. The problem is that when it is shown on a projector; when moving PIP video floats across the screen it seems to cyclically hesitate or jump. Only the PIP appears to do this, the background video remains stable. I am wondering if there is an Adobe sync effect or video affect that will fix this? I am suspecting a difference in sync between the base video and the PIP floating, if that is possible. Note that I am aware that I am looking at adjusting the video process to help the projector--which is probably the issue anyway. All of this leads me to ask question two; is there a better mpg encoder out there to use that is affordable and beats the AP version? I know that I discovered that with Windows Media Encoding.
Please give your ideas on both questions.

Michael Littlejohn
August 20th, 2006, 07:37 PM
I've seen it in on screen interviews often lately...

Best I can describe it would be a "solarize" transition. I "solars" out or "whites" out quickly....almost like a "flash."

Any transitions in Premiere like that? I can't find any. I'm using 1.5.

Nick Weeks
August 20th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Additive dissolve might be what you're looking for... either that or dip to color dissolve set to white. The names might be different in Premiere... I use FCP, but I've seen those transitions in Premiere also, just can't remember the names

Michael Littlejohn
August 20th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Nick,

thanks....somehow I overlooked the additive disolve. Perfecto!

Nick Weeks
August 20th, 2006, 10:18 PM
It's one of my favorites... goes well with faster music

Christopher Lefchik
August 21st, 2006, 09:31 AM
Sounds like you might be rendering to QuickTime Alternates. See this thread for more details: QT Alternate Download problem (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=71890)

The only really good QuickTime codec included with the QuickTime Player and Premiere Pro is the Apple H.264 codec. Of course, H.264 encoded video requires viewers to have the QuickTime 7 Player installed.

When encoding to QuickTime, be aware the Adobe Media Encoder's bit rate slider is very inaccurate. Setting it to about 23-25 Kbps should give you an approximately 300-400 Kbps file.

Marco Wagner
August 24th, 2006, 11:26 AM
Do you have ANY blank/empty spaces between scenes or clips?

Ariel Fleischer
August 27th, 2006, 05:36 AM
Hello,

I installed Adobe Premiere 2.0 but it's all English. I really want the interface to be German. Is there any way to change the language or even download and add it?

Thanks in advance!

Pete Bauer
August 27th, 2006, 06:22 AM
You should be able to select the language during setup. It is one of the first screens to appear.

Ariel Fleischer
August 27th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Really?

Because in my case it just asked me to choose the language for the License Agreement and I did chose German... but for the interface language it didn't even ask. Is there any way to change the language afterwards?

Edit: Got it! I was just running the wrong Installer. There were many on the CD!

Thanks a lot!

Lisa Shofner
August 28th, 2006, 10:29 AM
Given the following statistics, how well would this system run Premier Pro 2.0 in your opinion?

- Pentium D dual core 2.66Ghz
- 1gig of DDR2 ram (two 512 sticks for dual channel hotness)
- DVD read/writer
- 256 meg onboard video card (yes, its shared)

What if I double the ram and add a good video card?

What about running FCP on this system (if it was loaded with OSX of course)?

Paul Cuoco
August 28th, 2006, 11:39 AM
The system you have spec'd would run OK. Shared video graphics are terrible for video work, though. Absolutely add a good video card. I've used both nVida and ATI and had good results, so I'll leave thata discussion to others. It's really essential for either Premiere or FCP, especially if you plan on doing any HD. In fact the MacBooks that have shared video aren't "approved" to even run FCP for this reason.

Ram's OK, but more ram can never hurt.

Nick Posen
August 29th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Hey, When every Im watching shows on tv (for example mtv cribs) they do a cool morph transition, and I have no idea how to do it in premiere pro 2.0. Anyone know? thanks -Nick