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Chris Harris April 6th, 2006, 06:40 PM I made a short 45 second segment, and I want to export to mpeg2 to burn to dvd, but the audio lags behind the video for some reason. I've done segments in 1.5 and 2.0 before, but only now is it starting to lag. And it's not just this project. I've tried making new projects and they lag too. Exporting to wmv is fine, but mpeg2 is out of sync. Any ideas? I'm so frustrated, I'm just about ready to re-format this machine.
Miguel Lombana April 6th, 2006, 10:08 PM I made a short 45 second segment, and I want to export to mpeg2 to burn to dvd, but the audio lags behind the video for some reason. I've done segments in 1.5 and 2.0 before, but only now is it starting to lag. And it's not just this project. I've tried making new projects and they lag too. Exporting to wmv is fine, but mpeg2 is out of sync. Any ideas? I'm so frustrated, I'm just about ready to re-format this machine.
Did you try to export it as a Microsoft AVI and play it back in WMP? If that's good then you can run TMPGenc on it for MPG2 and blow that into your DVD software, it's my typical workflow and has never given me any grief. The encoder in Premier (IMHO) has been buggy since day 1.
Bill Hamell April 7th, 2006, 02:38 PM When I create a rolling title it looks good in the Title Designer, in PP1.5, however it looks blurry even after rendering when viewing in the monitier window. It is also very faint and hard to see.
I need a quick answer on how to get good looking rolling titles even if it means another program.
Thank you,
Bill
Roger Averdahl April 8th, 2006, 02:47 AM I need a quick answer on how to get good looking rolling titles even if it means another program.
Here is one page to start with: http://www.creativecow.net/articles/hodgetts_philip/titles/index.html
Are you using a Matrox card, RT.X10 or RT.X100? The titles never look good and sharp in the Monitor Window in a Matrox project. Render out the movie and look at it in Windows Media Player, does the rolling title look blurry now?
/Roger
Bill Hamell April 8th, 2006, 05:47 AM Roger,
Thank you for the reply.
I am using a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model64 Pro video card.
Not the latest and greatest I know, however I suffered a system crash and had to cobble together a system to complete the project.
That was a great page you suggested.
I had found out some of what was there by trail and error.
I managed to get a decent rolling credit by changing the font to Arial and increasing the font size.
I shall read thru it again when I have more time.
Thank you for your help.
Bill
Chris Harris April 9th, 2006, 01:15 PM I gave that a shot and it works perfectly. It's kind of weird for me because Premiere's never given me any grief about this before. But I suppose I can get used to this. Thanks a lot for the advice!
Juan Dela Cruz April 10th, 2006, 02:08 PM When color bars view on my external monitor from premiere what IRE value it shows my monitor, IRE 0 or IRE 7.5? If its IRE 0 then when I export it to DVD will I get same black value which is IRE 0 or IRE 7.5?
Joshua Provost April 11th, 2006, 11:12 AM Juan,
There is no setup in the digital world, so it depends on your path out to the monitor. Are you going through a DV camera or a Pinnacle-type external box? If so, it's up to that device to add or not add setup.
I have a Pinnacle Movie Box and my Sony PVM-20 monitor status detects that there is 0 setup, strangely enough. I haven't figured out if this is correct or not.
Josh
Eric Elliott April 11th, 2006, 04:53 PM When I select an image for the Image Matte Key, the image is distorted. I have hunted through the manual and online help to no avail. I put up a web page that explains in detail (with pictures). Any help would be extremely appreciated!
http://www.sierratel.com/iisaw/temp/help.html
Joshua Provost April 11th, 2006, 05:10 PM Eric,
DV is 720 x 480 (only 854 wide in imaginary world when you consider the PAR, but always actually 720 wide). Have you tried a matte of that size?
Josh
Eric Elliott April 11th, 2006, 08:17 PM Yep, even though Premiere resizes the DV frames to get a widescreen image, it doesn't resize imported images so you have to generate them at a 1:1 PAR. I tried a 720x480 matte out of a vain hope of something magical happening... but, no, it was squashed even narrower.
Herojig Gaton April 12th, 2006, 01:53 AM These are indeed exciting times for us adobees yes? With the new video editing suite, Dynamic link and all, but after evaluating all of the products I don't see how I can incorporate it all into my editing bay, and the reasons are mostly because of the plugins, perhaps someone here can help me:
My stable working bay:
PPRO 1.5.1
BorisRed3GL for PPRO
AfterEffects 6.5
Various useful plugins for the above
Encore 2 (this is a great improvement)
I tried to update the above with PPRO2 and AFTEREFFECTS 7, but no dice. Here were some of the problems:
* capture card plugins not compatible with PPRO2 (showstopper for now, I guess I have to get a new card)
* BorisRed3GL won't install with new PPRO2
* Most other plugins won't either
* New Aftereffects7 won't save comps as PPRO1.5 projects (for backward-level editing).
That's just the short story of incompats. I really REALLY REALLY like the new Abobe interfaces, but short of buying a whole new bay just for the new suite, I don't see how it's gunna work, and even then old plugs may take some time to catch up, ie. Sythetic Aperture and others...
So what's everyone else doing?
Thanks for your feedback, this is my first post here, and it looks like a great place.
Jigs in Nepal
where it's all falling apart...
Chuck Lozano April 12th, 2006, 02:33 AM i know ppro has edge feathers but its really dull. how do i do the kind of feathering wherein its sort of a wild vignette with the vignetted part actually an alpha? like an edge feather with shaped boundaries and not just the 4 sides.
do i need a plug-in for it?
also, if ppro 1.5 has an opacity that you can gradient
thanks
Chuck Lozano April 12th, 2006, 02:36 AM lock the video timeline and voila! delete the audio
Jeremy West April 12th, 2006, 04:28 PM Does anyone know of a way to export Quicktime Reference movies from Premiere Pro? I can export Quicktime movies, but not reference movies. Are there any 3rd party plugins for this? I need to export directly from the timeline and I don't want to have to render out long sections.
Eric Elliott April 13th, 2006, 12:18 AM Solved. The file needs to be a Photoshop file set to a PAR of 1.2... it's got to be a Photoshop file. Exporting as a TIFF or TGA doesn't work.
Jeff Baker April 13th, 2006, 02:30 PM Okay this is frustrating. I have a 1 hour and 12 minute project. When I try to export it to a DV microsoft codec .avi file it only seems to export 1 hour and six minutes cutting out the end of the film. I have tried both work area and Entire Sequence options but no difference.
There is no error, the exported movie is just missing the last 6 minutes.
I am exporting the missing part to a separate file a workaround for now but I don'k know how I can combine them into one file for work in After Effects as I need to run Magic Bullet on the whole thing. I am also trying to keep a few renders in the process as possible to preserve quality.
Does anyone know what would cause this?
Raji Barbir April 13th, 2006, 04:14 PM i just shot a demo video for a wedding reception center and i have 2 main problems:
1) The video is jittery on a few shots. It is most apparent on the slow-motion shots. I shot the video in 60i mode so i could allow myself a good deal of room for slo-mo. I'm aware of the "jitter problem" in premiere when slowing down footage, but i copied/pasted the footage over to After Effects and rendered an AVI from there to plug back into Premiere, still jittery.
2) The DVD works on one of my players but not the other one. It skips frames until eventually it "crashes". The same happened to me this last weekend at the public showing of a wedding video!!... The only way i could get the DVD to work with both my players was by exporting from Premiere as an MPEG-2 DVD format and then taking it over to Encore and burning it from there. Even then, it kinda goes weird at the very end.
The reason i'm so annoyed with the jitter is that i've shot footage before that i could slow down to 40% of its original speed with no problems. Of course, to get the best results, i had to move the video to After Effects and render it from there, which is what i did in this case too... so why is it not working now???
and what do i have to do to ensure the best compatibility i can??
Thanks
Raji
Jon Day April 13th, 2006, 09:58 PM I've been struggling with this one for a few days now. I am putting together a slideshow that incorporates line art. My final output will be a DVD that will be played on a 16:9 43" plasma.
you can see an example of the images here.
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6172/017907iso19bs.jpg
My problem is the sparkly fuzzies on the edges when I render to mpeg-2. I have tested about everything I can think of in regards to the actual rendering. The images look great in photoshop but as soon as I stick them in PP2 and render them I get the fuzzies.
I am overdue on this project and would appreciate any ideas.
Eric Elliott April 13th, 2006, 10:34 PM Line art is very problematic on a TV screen... any thin or high contrast lines are.
And this is definately a thin line / high contrast problem. Here are some things to try:
1) Make the background a medium grey instead of white.
2) Thicken the lines. (This won't get rid of the problem, but the sparkles will be less disracting because they will be a lower percentage of the line width.
3) Blur the image slightly. A greyscale transition will reduce the effect.
4) Redo the art at screen resolution. (720 x 480 for DV) Part of the problem is the rendering is trying to represent lines that are a fraction of a pixel wide in the final resolution.
5) Use color for the background and furniture. Pick values that would look nearly the same when translated into greyscale.
Hope that helps!
Anthony Milic April 15th, 2006, 10:28 AM Hi there.
I can honestly say, I've had it up to here (points to temple) with PP1.5.
After conceding defeat in some bizarre sound glitch battle, I'm now faced with a new one.
I'm running Premiere Pro 1.5 on an XP SP2, P4, 3.0 mhz, 2Gb ram, 2 x 200gig HDD system.
After completely gutting my system and starting from scratch, I installed premiere and completed editing and tried to export a 15 minute project to DVD. The export was interrupted by the good ol' "out of memory" error. I installed the fix from adobe. Now when I try to export, the computer is half shutting down on me a few minutes into the export. Very strange, it kind of goes to sleep. The monitor blinks off as if shut down, but the systems seems to keep running. It’s almost as if a screen saver kicks in.. but there is no screen saver,
I can’t get back in, so have to force a power down at the switch.
Tried four times now – same result.
No errors reported after I boot back into windows.
My system event viewer shows nothing.
PP1.5 seems to behave normally once I reopen.
I've tried exporting at high quality 7mb CBR 1 pass and 4MB VBR 2 pass.
Either way, the file is less than 1gig. (which would give me better quality btw?)
Would it help to maximize bitrate (I don’t know what this does)
What about changing fields’ to ‘upper’ or ‘none’??
Have tried exporting movie to AVI, that works fine.
Anyone have any advice here? PLEASE!?
I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks
Anthony
ps. Export info as follows.
General:
Disc Name:
Timeline Markers: No
Loop Playback: Yes
Preset:
PAL DV 4x3 High Quality 7Mb CBR 1 Pass
Comment: High quality, CBR transcoding of DV content
Video Summary:
Codec: MainConcept MPEG Video
Quality: 5.0 (high quality)
TV Standard: PAL
Frame Rate [fps]: 25
Field Order: Lower
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Frame Width [pixels]: 720
Frame Height [pixels]: 576
Bitrate Encoding: CBR
Bitrate [Mbps]: 7.0000 (high quality)
M Frames: 3
N Frames: 12
Audio Summary:
Audio Format: PCM
Codec: PCM Audio
Sample Size: 16 bit
Frequency: 48 kHz
Encoding:
Export Range: Entire Sequence
Fields: Lower
Maximize Bitrate: No
Force Variable Bitrate: No
Raji Barbir April 17th, 2006, 10:06 AM nobody??...
here's what i've figured out so far.
The original XL2 footage was fine. No jitter. The imported AVI files were fine too when i played them using Windows Media Player. No jitter either. Although PPro's footage came out kinda choppy, it turned out to be an issue with After Effects where i'd set the initial Comp settings wrong (frame rate wasn't consistent with PPro's settings), so i adjusted that and added frame blending. That took care of the jitter issue to a reasonable level.
The compatibility issue still eludes me though... i've burned countless DVDs with various encoding settings and can't find one that will work with all DVD players... There has to be a way, or Hollywood's DVDs would make lots of people angry.
HELP!!! I know someone out there knows something!
Graham Hickling April 17th, 2006, 10:32 AM Two additional factors to consider:
1) Compatability of the media you are burning to relative to your DVD players.
2) Your DVD burning software
For example, I presently have a batch of mid-price Taiko Yuden DVD-Rs that will not play to the end with SOME DVD players. I found could fix the problem in one of two ways: 1) use a different media; or 2) author the DVD to an image (.iso) file, and then burn that image to disk with the freeware imgburn (instead of nero which I had been using).
Go figure!
Imgburn is here: http://www.imgburn.com/
Steve Witt April 17th, 2006, 02:03 PM I have Premiere Elements 2.0 and I am trying to use it for the first time. I connected My GS400 to my computer and tried to capture footage/clips and a little pop-up said that no time/date was detected to divide into individual clips during capture. My question is......Is this due to the tape, camera, or software? Am I not turning something on that needs to be turned on or what? I thought all DV tapes provided/recorded this info &(I am aware that it detects pauses or stops from the recording and uses these as markers) and I also have the "divide into clips" feature checked on the capture features. HHMMMMMM????
Adam Bray April 18th, 2006, 12:25 AM I slowed down the speed of an audio clip and and trying to fade in the audio using Constant Power. But the audio does not come up at all until the transition is completely over, leading me to beleive you can't do it. Is this correct?
DJ Lewis April 18th, 2006, 05:13 PM How would you fix this (PPro or AE?) http://www.geocities.com/djlewis2000/gold.jpg
And the coorect answer doesn't include the phrase "re-shoot"
Its a combination of not having a field monitor, and my boss insisting on holding up a gold reflector.
Jad Meouchy April 18th, 2006, 07:10 PM wow, that's not going to be too easy.. not much to work with except the green of the grass
it's oversaturated to the point of losing a lot of color information, but there is enough to salvage
http://www.jadware.com/gold_.jpg
I think I killed significant fine detail with too much contrast, but the colors seem a little better
Eric Lagerlof April 18th, 2006, 07:54 PM Has any one gotten this message? I get the error with both a DV and HDV camcorder. I have tried the renew 1394 folder in the registry that is on the Adobe tech paper. I don't seem to have the Nimo Codec that was a problem for some and I have not changed any hardware on my computer, (a Sager 4790 laptop with a 3.2 p4/HT and a gig of RAM). There is no specialized capture hardware either, i.e. Canopus or Matrox stuff. The only a/v type software I've added since the install has been the Dreamweaver 8 Studio tryout version. Everything worked fine up until about a month ago. No real changes to the computer I remember. Anybody else have this issue and or a solution? Thanks for the interest.
DJ Lewis April 18th, 2006, 10:47 PM Yup, that's about the same result I get as well... pretty frustrating, but you can only do so much once its on tape (and can't re-shoot).
Pat Sherman April 19th, 2006, 12:25 AM About the same here.. That white hair is killing ya..:)
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=green5tg.jpg
Jon Glen April 19th, 2006, 11:56 AM does anybody know how.....or if possible, to take a M2T file, stick it in premier1.5.5 and burn it to a disk so i can view it on a large screen T.V.?
i burned one, but it was REALLY pixeled out, so maybe i'm missing a step or something? any help would be great
thanks
Logan Bright April 19th, 2006, 03:07 PM Hey hey. Another question for you all, regarding Premiere Pro 1.5, again. I recently mastered Color Correction, and now I feel like a big man. But, now, I wanna know something that has been bothering me for a while.
Clips in movies and television occassionally play backward, for, say, jumping backwards up a building or whatever. Is this possible to do in Premiere Pro 1.5? I have no idea where to start - the Mirror effect wasn't what I wanted at all.
As always, thanks in advance for everyone's help.
~Loggie B
Mathieu Ghekiere April 19th, 2006, 03:20 PM Hi Logan,
I think that you should select the clip in your timeline, right mousse click on it, and then go to: speed/duration.
There you can select the speed, but if I'm not mistaken, there's an option there: reverse.
If not, try - 100 %, with the speed, but I think there's an option for it.
Best regards,
Logan Bright April 19th, 2006, 03:28 PM Ah! All that time, and all it took was one check box. Thanks a lot sir, 'tis much appreciated indeed!
~Loggie B
Adam Bray April 20th, 2006, 09:45 AM I have never attempted to put still images (.jpg) in the timeline. I dropped one in the timeline today thinking it would show up in the preview monitor. It didn't. Just black video.
Anyone know why it might not?
Joshua Provost April 20th, 2006, 11:00 AM Adam,
Based on a recent thread here, try converting the JPEG to a Photoshop PSD file and try that. Premiere seems to work best with PSD file.
Josh
Stephen Jackson April 20th, 2006, 03:33 PM If the file size of the .jpeg is too large it will disapear, I had that happen to me on an edit job.
What I did was to import into photoshop and save as .tga
Or you can resize the .jpeg to reduce file size.
Thomas Fraser April 22nd, 2006, 08:43 AM I want to scan my photos and insert into a video.
What is the best format and dpi to use thats works best in Adobe Premiere Pro.
Thank you
Robert Holley April 22nd, 2006, 09:48 AM Hi I am having the same problem, and the way you said oyu fixed it is pretty foreign to me, care to elaborate?
Robert Holley April 22nd, 2006, 09:54 AM Hello,
I've had this problem for a while but in the past I've found creative ways to work around it. I'm working on a project now though that I cannot workaround so i have to rectify.
Basically whenever I lay text or a QT with an alpha channel on track 2 over some footage on track 1, when rendered the footage in track 1 gets a wider picture.
any advice? by the way I am using PPro1.5 and the Matrox Rx
Aviv Hallale April 23rd, 2006, 07:37 AM Is it possible to render a clip out in a TGA (or similar file type) sequence in software like After Effects, and then bring the hundreds of frames/images into Premiere 2.0 as a single clip...This can be done with AE, but I can't seem to do it with Premiere.
For instance,
When working in Particle Illusion, I export the effect as a sequence of TGA files, import them as a single clip into AE, composite them onto a TGA sequence/single clip of original footage exported from Premiere (Should I export from premiere in DV-AVI (the source filetype) or is it better to export the footage that you're going to work on as a series of images too?) then export as a TGA sequence in AE...How can I bring this affected footage back into Premiere though?
Should I always work on image sequences when compositing, but render the final clip out as a DV-AVI video to bring back into the NLE?
Max Hagelstam April 23rd, 2006, 12:45 PM File>Import>"Your first image". Mark the checkbox "Numbered Stills" at the bottom of the import-window.
Works here anyway.
/Max
David Stieferman April 24th, 2006, 11:53 AM I have a lot of old 8mm tape I want to store digitally. I have a 8mm sony comcorder with firewire that I can capture to my computer. I want to store all raw footage from the tapes to DVD and be able to edit later. What would be the best way to get it onto DVD and in what format or file structure is best. I am new to editing so it needs to be simple. It seems the file structure from what I have captured burns to a DVD but I can't seem to get it back into Premier so I can edit.
Lloyd Coleman April 24th, 2006, 03:18 PM If you are displaying the pictures full-frame and not applying any zoom or pan to them, you should scan them close to the size of your video project resolution (for example 720 x 480 pixels for standard dv in the U.S.). If you scan much larger you will increase the memory and work load on the program and make it work slower, also Premiere does not resize the pictures as well as most image editing progams and you will see more artifacts in the pictures. If you are zooming or panning you need to scan at a larger size so there are still enough pixels in the zoomed portion of the picture to provide full resolution (eg. 720x480) so Premiere does not have to upsample the picture. I find that keeping the horizontal dimension to about 1000-1100 pixels allows me enough room to zoom and pan in most cases without overburdening the system in both speed and memory. Another problem with scanning too big is that you will create more 'flicker' on the sharp lines in the images when you pan or zoom.
As far as format goes, I have not seem a difference between using JPG, TIFF or PSD (Photoshop version of TIFF). Some have reported problems with one or the other and the dreaded or green or black screen in Premiere. I have had problems with all formats when I have too many or too large of pictures in PPro 1.5, but have not encountered the problem yet in PPro 2.0
Chad Huntley April 24th, 2006, 11:56 PM bumping this as the problem has not been fixed, cannot seem to find any documentation about it online, and I'm hoping someone here might know the fix!
I'm able to export in anything but WM9 1080 60i or Mpeg2 1080 60i 15mbps. Any ideas????
Michael Claerbout April 25th, 2006, 06:46 AM Hi all,
as i told in a diffrend thread im working on my shortmovie.
And i'm in postproduction stage at the moment,
i have gotten myself twixtor pro kit and as i am still learning it, i wanted to
know if somebody could help me out to slow down a short shot of a seat falling down a window.
If you can help me don't hesitate to reply,
cause i could really use some help on this!
Ps: if you want to i can mail you a copy of the scene, just ask me
thank you guys!
greets
Michaël.
Don Blish April 25th, 2006, 06:06 PM My projects are now in HDV with the project declared 1080x1920. I have been using my digital camera images without first resizing. They are 3072x2048. I find the sizing and zooming infinitely better in PPro than old Premiere6.5. They look great on my TVs (both are 720p, so are 720x1280 or so). I have 2 gigs of RAM, run the excellent CineformAccessHD plugin and have not seen slugishness between frames. PPro1.5 did often crash when rendering more than three or four at a time, but I've done dozens at a time in PPro2.0 without problems.
In my book you should scan prints 4x6 and over plus negatives to aim for about 3000 pixels across the long edge for your archives. That would be about 500 or 600 dpi over 6 inches. More is usually beyond the resolution your camera/film/focus/steadyness can deliver. Unless your scans will only be for a one-off standard definition project, I'd say the above post's recommendation of 1000 across is a minimum. Stills done 1080x1440 looked VERY sharp, far sharper than my (then) Canon ZR70.
When I did use 6.5 (as your profiles show), I made a copy at 1080x1440 (square pixels 3:4) before importing. And yes, zooming in 6.5 was hopeless since I believe it knocked each image down to 480x720 BEFORE zooming. Stills done this way were VERY sharp, far sharper than video from my inexpensive Canon ZR70.
Greg Corke April 26th, 2006, 12:43 AM Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone here could give me some advice. I have a recent project shot on the hd100 24p hdv. I would like to edit natively and I believe the latest version of premiere can do this. I was just wondering if anyone here has tried this and could advise me of the relative merits and misgivings of doing so. I'd like to avoid any intermediate if I can and native sounds like a possible solution. However, I'm not sure what kind of set up I'm going to need in order to do this effectively. The project is mostly straight edits with some magic bullet thrown in i.e. no heavy cgi stuff. Although, I suppose even magic bullet effects are still pretty heavy going when editing natively but not sure.
Thanks in advance, Greg C.
Michael Claerbout April 26th, 2006, 07:33 AM Nevermind this post,
i have found out what settings to use the hard way
greets
Michaël.
Don Blish April 26th, 2006, 08:09 PM You didn't mention, but are you using Cineform AccessHD4 (for PPro2)? When first introduced, you had to keep old PPro1.5.1+AHD3.x on disc since a licensing issue requires it to export to cameta in PPro2. Expected to be cleared by AHD4.1. Good luck.
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