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That... was... awesome!

Very nice work!

That... was... awesome!

Very nice work!
charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", all in the space of 12 minutes of time between postings.

not trolling, but genuinely curious. am i missing something here?

with regards to the piece... that was good stuff, glenn. i enjoyed it immensely. it's just too bad that one of the moms was not around for the solo shot on the green and you had to replace it with reception footage. were you using a glidecam-style stabilizer or a monopod? or both?

That was great. You keep changing it up Glen.

WOW!

[QUOTE=A.J. Briones]charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", QUOTE]

Easy. I see good, creative work in Glenn's piece... without having to resort to illegal use of copyrighted material belonging to other parties. No mystery.

[QUOTE=A.J. Briones]charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", QUOTE]

Easy. I see good, creative work in Glenn's piece... without having to resort to illegal use of copyrighted material belonging to other parties. No mystery.
oh, ok. my bad.

you must've had the volume down because you didn't hear the song from the "kill bill" soundtrack.

seriously, am i missing something here?

Glen,

Every now and then I have to reply to you the same way....

Damn you man! Damn you!

Now I am going to spend my whole day figuring out some way to top you. Unlikely, but I will endevour to do so. This forum has done it's job again - inpiring people to push it a little higher.

Nice work, enjoyed it.

Mike

[QUOTE=Charles Newcomb]
oh, ok. my bad.

you must've had the volume down because you didn't hear the song from the "kill bill" soundtrack.

seriously, am i missing something here?

Very good point, however please don't feed the fire. If posting clips will always result in a copyright debate I will have to refrain from ever posting any of my work for viewing.

I understand and respect that people feel strongly about this issue but please don't hijack threads and drag them through the mud, this is not aimed soley at anyone in particular. Thank you.

I really enjoyed old film effect interspersed as well as how you had the text come in, it was very original, at least from what I have seen. On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage. I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?

[QUOTE=A.J. Briones]
I understand and respect that people feel strongly about this issue but please don't hijack threads and drag them through the mud, this is not aimed soley at anyone in particular. Thank you.

Glen,

As a moderator, can't you simply delete the post before it goes anywhere, whenever you catch it. The same thing can only be said so many times and as you mentioned, it has the enduring effect of discouraging the sharing of clips.

Glen,

Every now and then I have to reply to you the same way....

Damn you man! Damn you!

Now I am going to spend my whole day figuring out some way to top you. Unlikely, but I will endevour to do so. This forum has done it's job again - inpiring people to push it a little higher.

Nice work, enjoyed it.

Mike


Thanks Mike, for the very kind words.

I really enjoyed old film effect interspersed as well as how you had the text come in, it was very original, at least from what I have seen.
Thank you Patrick.

On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage.
I'd have to agree with on the point about style over content. That's absolutely fine too because that's EXACTLY what this piece is intended for. It's not used as a prelude to the video. My normal wedding/vignette editing style would contrast this so drastically it would be out of place. Instead it's an option they have the choice to add to a regular full coverage package. It's a fun add-on and the family and friends seem to love it.

I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?
That really depends. It's usually the groom's favorite part of the video...and often IS indeed watched several times. However that would depend on the couple...I'd assume that couples who wouldn't watch it more than once wouldn't pay the money to have one produced.

Thanks for the input.

[QUOTE=Glen Elliott]

Glen,

As a moderator, can't you simply delete the post before it goes anywhere, whenever you catch it. The same thing can only be said so many times and as you mentioned, it has the enduring effect of discouraging the sharing of clips.

We try to have as little intervention as possible because we DO respect peoples thoughts and opinions and want people to communicate as freely as possible. However if the subject takes a thread off topic, becomes volitile, and then continues after a request has been made to stop...then maybe an action may be taken.

It is never my or any moderators intention to squelch anyone and action is only taken when rules are broken and/or as a last resort.

Very good point, however please don't feed the fire. If posting clips will always result in a copyright debate I will have to refrain from ever posting any of my work for viewing.

that's exactly my point. this has happened to me twice now, and i will no longer be sharing here either.

AJ, don't get too wound up. We love to see the work, just don't get dragged into the debate. It will rage long after we are dead and little mice are living in our skulls.

Glen - you say this is an add on. I understand if you don't want to say, but about how much do you get for these?

Mike

I was going to ask the same thing as Mike, but I was wary of starting another debate.

I agree with what your saying above about this appealing to certain couples and being the grooms favourite piece. The dancing montage you couldn't get to load earlier is an example of how we try and bring that into the video. We take a take the editing to a different level but keep more of the content in there by using reception and mainly dancing footage. We have also experimented with some groom preps clips done to sublime and things like that which are very fast paced and different.

Thanks for sharing Glen.

Please everybody, continue to post your clips.

When I view them I find myself looking at the camera angles and transitionary points more each time. I see a lot of scenes that would normally be labled "uneventful" turned into very appealing segments based on what you guys do in post - *regardless* of music. Heck, after the first run-through I even turn the sound off just to make sure I'm looking at the video and not getting too caught up in the tune.

So again, please continue to share your post-editing skills. Mine have improved ten fold (I think) as a result of this and I do believe, that's part of what DVI is all about.

Hey Glen,

I remember you posting something like this some months back . I'm glad the usual suspects this time are more fun and game in front of the camera and that you've perfected the sequence.

great use of text and filters.
Very very nice.

And Patrick....

On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage.

[snip]

I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?
That really depends. It's usually the groom's favorite part of the video...and often IS indeed watched several times. However that would depend on the couple...I'd assume that couples who wouldn't watch it more than once wouldn't pay the money to have one produced.

Thanks for the input.
OTOH, the credits may be the most important part of the video long term. 20 Years from now, the kids will be watching and may not recognize everyone. 50 years from now the B&G will be watching and may not recognize everyone (who are these people honey?). 100 years from now, no one will recognize anyone....

I think it is cool to spend the time to dress them up. I bet the entire wedding party wants their own copies too. A little extra income, Glen??

This DVD hasn't been delivered yet thus I won't know if the bridal party would want their own copy. Interesting idea, however more than likely the couple will make additional copies of their own.

Some videographers get upset by this- however it really doesn't bother me. I'm not trying to make my money on extra copies. If they spend enough for your services you shouldn't have to nickel and dime them for extra copies...at least anything beyond being paid for the few minutes of time it takes to burn and print them plus the materials. I always give a good amount of copies with my packages. I figure if they have more copies they'll be more inclined to pass the extra copies around to friends and family. To me that free marketing.

Damn Glen - I'd love to see this clip, but it was removed so fast. I hope it wasn't because of these stupid "music" comments.

Give a brother a couple days... :-)

yeah, I missed it too, Glen. How 'bout a repost for those of us a couple of days late?
Thanks either way.
Vin

Judging by the number of responses on this board and VU, I think it's pretty clear why the clip had to be pulled. Maybe we should try to figure out bittorrent for online clips to ease bandwidth for those who are sharing. I can't crack it myself.

CW

Removed link.

I've chosen to rehost it for a few days for those who haven't seen it....

http://home.comcast.net/~g.elliott3///Credits.wmv

You rock Glen! Thanks a bunch...

Thanks for reposting, Glen. Very nice work, indeed (like we expected anything else?)
Vin

GLEN!!!

Thanks for reposting that. I loved it, even though I had to wait 30 minutes due to my (emperor palpatine voice) "pitiful dialup."

The cuts, the fun. Yeah. Now that's a great extra for a wedding vid and love the music.

I've been doing dance recitals and am looking at getting into wedding videography and you're one of the people I look to for inspiration.

You set the bar pretty high.

If I can produce just half the quality that you display I know that I'll be on my way. I'll just need to work my way up the other half of your quality. From here that's quite a climb.

Well done.

sincerely,


ian

GLEN!!!

Thanks for reposting that. I loved it, even though I had to wait 30 minutes due to my (emperor palpatine voice) "pitiful dialup."

The cuts, the fun. Yeah. Now that's a great extra for a wedding vid and love the music.

I've been doing dance recitals and am looking at getting into wedding videography and you're one of the people I look to for inspiration.

You set the bar pretty high.

If I can produce just half the quality that you display I know that I'll be on my way. I'll just need to work my way up the other half of your quality. From here that's quite a climb.

Well done.

sincerely,


ian

Thanks Ian for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

YEAH! Awesome work as usual. It's been awhile since I've looked at your stuff, but every time I do...man oh man.

You still using Vegas? I know you were experimenting with FCP also.

YEAH! Awesome work as usual. It's been awhile since I've looked at your stuff, but every time I do...man oh man.

You still using Vegas? I know you were experimenting with FCP also.

Thanks Dave. Yeah still on Vegas- I sold my G5.