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bokkus37
December 18th, 2002, 03:16 AM
yo yo and yo, so what if i want to bring my g4 imac with me to shoots and instead of recording the image on dv tape, i just firewire the camera into my computer and capture it that way? i'll also be recording onto tape as a backup, i was just wondering if besides it looking cool to onlookers, would i be helping the image of the camera since i'm pulling straight off the ccd's. or am i wrong, is there a difference between recording to tape and recording directly to a harddrive?

Barend Onneweer
December 18th, 2002, 03:26 AM
Urm... what's up with the yo...

Anyway, no, it won't help, since the firewire-output is already compressed. With the XL-1 there's no getting the images straight off the CCD's, even the s-video output went through the compressor I think. Some DV cameras with a 25 pin connector (JVC GY-DV550), can use that studio-connector to send uncompressed video out.

So basically you be dragging along an extra box, and you'd need someone extra to operate it...

Bar3nd

bokkus37
December 18th, 2002, 04:01 AM
yo yo,

thanks for the input about the output.

yo yo,
-p

Don Palomaki
December 18th, 2002, 05:42 AM
As to benefits, what you mght save/avoid is any dropouts on the tape that you are using.

However, in addition to lugging more weight, you may be providing additional keys someone could accidently press and cause the camcorder to change operating mode; e.g., pause recording.

Jeff Donald
December 18th, 2002, 06:44 AM
I've recorded directly to hard drive on several occasions. The main benefit to me was being able to edit the project as we shot. It also saved the time it takes to capture the clips in the studio. It required a few changes in the order the scenes were shot. The editor wanted a couple of scenes shot early, so he'd have more time to work on graphics. We also made a tape backup incase the HD developed a problem.

The project was shot and edited in record time and within the clients imposed deadline. I think the total time was about 16 hours of work. We started about 8am and delivered the finished piece (including a DVD with menus) the next day at noon.

Jeff

Paul Sedillo
December 18th, 2002, 07:06 AM
Jeff,

Did you use the Firestore device for the direct DV storage? If not what did you use?

Jeff Donald
December 18th, 2002, 08:23 AM
No, we used an Avid. They have a Capture Now function that records whatever you feed it. I hope FCP adds a similar function.

Jeff

Paul Sedillo
December 18th, 2002, 08:28 AM
Hmmm...I thought that FCP has the ability to "Capture Now" while in the program. Never tried the function, so I could be WAY off base.

The Firestore is a great device. I like the ability to capture video direct to a firewire drive. It makes life so much better.

Jeff Donald
December 18th, 2002, 08:50 AM
Your right. It does have capture now also. You have to set it to non-device control so it doesn't wait for TC. We used an Avid because the client wanted Betacam SP. I didn't edit that project, I was DP. Avids are easier to find (rent) that accept analog.

Jeff