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Josh Bass
September 8th, 2019, 03:25 PM
But the narrator is supposed to sound like theyre outside next to you guys, which is why you want to record the vo out there?

No I do not think that sounds good. It sounds weird. If youre going to have vo justrecord it in a quiet place and get as clean a recording as you can.

If you just need ambient or nat sound from the location to lay underneath the vo, that makes a little more sense, but you could still probably do that with stock sound effects instead of going back there.

Ryan Elder
September 8th, 2019, 07:13 PM
Well if they decide for the narrator to be the person who has been speaking into the camera the whole time while out there so far, than I will need to match his previous narration which has already been recorded while we were out there, wouldn't I?

But if they decide to go with a different narrator, than I won't.

Josh Bass
September 8th, 2019, 10:48 PM
I don't understand... they have other videos where someone is out there talking? Do you mean on camera?

Ryan Elder
September 8th, 2019, 10:51 PM
I shot a video before out their, with one of them talking, saying what is happening. They may get him again or they may get someone else to narrate the parts of the guy doing his prayer, not sure. If that makes sense?

Josh Bass
September 8th, 2019, 11:22 PM
That makes sense, but you mentioned voiceover. If guy is shown on camera that is not a voiceover. Even if you occasionally cut to other footage, if you cut back to guy occasionally, I wouldn't consider that voiceover. If you never show him on camera, there is no reason to record out there.

Ryan Elder
September 9th, 2019, 07:01 AM
Oh okay I thought if he's not in the same scene with the preying guy, and just doing the voice, it then counts as voice over for that section. But if they get a new person, then no, I won't need to go back out there.

Josh Bass
September 9th, 2019, 08:07 AM
In this particular video you are doing, if your narrator appears on camera, then you record them at the location (or wherever). If they never appear on camera IN THIS VIDEO, then record the narration somewhere quiet. If it’s a mix, like he appears at the beginning for a minute and a half and we never see him again or only see him at the end for another minute, but there’s five minutes in between where we see b-roll over his voice, it would probably make more sense to get everything that isnt on camera somewhere quiet. Yes itll be inconsistent but outdoor audio sounds a lot more distracting when youre not looking at the person speaking. When youre looking at footage of a bird but hearing someone talking, all that wind noise, traffic, birds chirping etc becomes much more annoying. Its acceptable when you see the guy talking in that environment, annoying when looking at something else.

Just find probably any nature doc and theyll cut between the nasty location audio and the pristine vo. People are used to it.

Brian Drysdale
September 10th, 2019, 12:49 AM
You should watch the BBC wild life programs, where it's common for a presenter to talk to camera on location and then then do the voice overs in the "studio" during post.

The same convention also applies to all TV programmes and TV news, they don't go back to locations for the voice over, which can be recorded a couple of years later in another part of the world.

If the "narrator" is appearing in shot speaking, that's fine, they are now either a presenter or a reporter, they are no longer a pure "narrator" (who only does the VO). This may may or may not involve them talking to the camera, but also interacting with the subject(s). This is common practice in documentaries.

You always need to be ready for the unexpected and grab them with both hands, because those moments are what will make the difference between the average and the good or even excellent.

Ryan Elder
September 10th, 2019, 04:46 AM
Oh okay. I just thought that if they have parts of the voice over from the location, and parts of it, from a studio, than it wouldn't match and you would hear it switch back and forth between the two, during the edit...

Brian Drysdale
September 10th, 2019, 05:11 AM
It's all in how you edit it.

You can get them to redo the voice over if it's not directly connected with their physical presence at the location. If it's them performing something you can use it with physically unconnected, but are emotionally connected visuals. You can use the location audio as long as the audience are aware that the person is speaking on location because you've established them there for this section of VO.

I would look at various TV documentaries for this.

Ryan Elder
September 10th, 2019, 07:54 PM
Oh okay, well if the get the one guy to finish the rest of the narration he is already on camera, so I thought if he does more, than his voice would have to match the same area he is in, if I want to cut back and forth between new voice and over, and the footage already of him, since he will be on camera for some of it already.

Brian Drysdale
September 11th, 2019, 12:19 AM
Again, go and watch documentaries and write the narration so that it fits with someone who us also appearing in the video.

Ryan Elder
September 14th, 2019, 01:40 AM
Oh but they are writing the narration, and choosing the narrator, that is not my decision though.