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Vishal Jadhav
November 2nd, 2016, 04:52 AM
Hi,

I am editing in Premiere Pro CC 2014 on a Windows machine.

The edit is a Documentary of 48 minutes and need to create a master for distribution which is required in "Apple Prores HQ 422 PAL"

I understand that on windows machine its not possible to create a Pro Res file directly from Premiere pro cc 2014

Can any one suggest a method that worked for broadcast in such a case.

thanks

Jeff Pulera
November 2nd, 2016, 10:54 AM
As you cannot export ProRes from a Windows machine, I would try Avid DNxHD format which will be quite comparable in quality. You could then take that file to someone with a Mac and get it converted to ProRes. Any generational quality loss should be virtually undetectable.

Thanks

John Wiley
November 2nd, 2016, 05:26 PM
2nd that - export to DNxHD then get someone with a Mac to transcode to ProRes.

I'm surprised that the broadcaster will only accept ProRes - I've found they normally prefer DNxHD or even an XDCAM export as they are more universal.

Vishal Jadhav
November 2nd, 2016, 11:57 PM
Thanks John, Jeff

I think i would be able to do a DNxHD export , i was just looking at the guidelines and i found some strange things like i need to deliver 2 copies of the Master with below audio setups

Audio set up:
Track 1 and 2: Full Mix
Track 3 and 4: Full Mix minus narration

As i see it DNH HD may have 2 tracks only or am i missing some point.

Also is there any program which can encode Prores from DNxHD on Windows.

Juris Lielpeteris
November 3rd, 2016, 04:19 AM
1. DNH HD from Premiere may have 32 audio tracks tracks.
2. ffmpeg can encode Prores from DNxHD on Windows ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFmpeg ).

Vishal Jadhav
November 8th, 2016, 11:27 PM
Thanks Juris,

I managed to export out DNxHD from Premiere and then encode it via ffmpeg to prores.

Used the "AnotherGUI" as the front end and it was very neat to operate.

thanks a ton folks it was very helpful

Vishal Jadhav
November 11th, 2016, 12:50 AM
Hi ,

I think i could make the Video part of this work however the audio part of the mix is something that confuses me,
I have currently 5 audio tracks, the first 4 are with foley & music the 5th one is the Voice over now i need to make only one export that has 4 Audio channels that
Track 1 and 2: Full Mix
Track 3 and 4: Full Mix minus narration

The method adopted by me was that i made a new sequence with multichannel setup having 4 Audio channels and mapped them
For Channel 1 - Tracks 1+2+3+4+5+6 Since this is to be with full mix
For Channel 2 - Tracks 1+2+3+4+5+6 Since this is to be with full mix
For Channel 3 - Tracks 1+2+3+4 As Track 5 has narration
For Channel 4 - Tracks 1+2+3+4 As Track 5 has narration

Attached the audio mix setup image used.

Is this the right way of doing it as my original sequence was only a Stereo Audio setup, i needed to make a new sequence with the multichannel Audio setup.

Juris Lielpeteris
November 21st, 2016, 02:33 AM
Now Magix Vegas Pro v14.0.0.201 can import and export Prores on Windows.

Vishal Jadhav
December 3rd, 2016, 08:14 AM
Hi,

This is a topic i started but finally a solution which may work.

I used Premiere pro to export DNxHD in a quicktime wrapper with 4 channels of audio which is possible solution over windows.

From there i used ffmpeg to encode the video into Prores 422 HQ and copied out the audio channels as it isthere by resulting into a Prores 422 HQ with 4 channels audio.

for ffmpeg the command line code you may need is as below

ffmpeg -i filenamet.mov -map 0 -c:v prores_ks -profile:v 3 -c:a copy resultantfilename.mov

thought if a solution worked its good to share