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Tim Lewis
December 1st, 2015, 11:15 AM
The Last Fine Day before Winter by Tim Lewis - UWOL36 on Vimeo

This was shot in early November when we had an 18 degree Celsius day with blue skies and light breezes, definitely the last gasp of summer. I got up early to get the sunrise and shot the rest during the middle of the day on a walk down the river to a park where many people were enjoying the last fine weather we will see for a while. I wanted to put the credits at the end over a shot of a snow storm, but we still haven't had one yet.

Catherine Russell
December 1st, 2015, 03:19 PM
Hey Tim:

I'm not sure if we've met, I'm Catherine. Nice to meet you!

Nice post this round. Soothing, lyrical, enjoyable to watch. You have an eye for composition and detail. This video is full of nice touches that give you the feeling that winter is really just around the corner. The opening is well done, with the bird calls and capturing the mist on the water. The music choice really sets the tone that this is a nostalgic time of season, not exuberant. The cut to the plane contrail lit up by the sun throws me each time I see it and is really cool. My mind wants to think it's a boat in the water for some reason until it can reason it out. I like the warm colors in the sky coming on as the sun rises somewhere out of the frame, and I think the duck in the water behind the in-focus vegetation captures the entire sense of the entire video.

You had some nice effects throughout, including the neat transition from the guy walking down the path away from the camera only to be replaced by two people walking toward.

Nicely and well done! Look forward to your next contribution.
Cheers!

Bryce Comer
December 1st, 2015, 03:39 PM
Hi Tim,
Nice entry. Beautiful colours & lovely music to go with it. Wow 18degC is warm for this time of the year. Has it also been dry? I'm sure you will get winter soon enough, & then you'll be wishing the warm weather was still around. :)
As Cat has said, your composition is great. There was one shot that you used twice of the water flowing over rocks etc. Maybe you could have found a colourful leaf to float down through the shot to differentiate the two?? On a technical note, there seems to be some jarring movement in a lot of the shots, not all, but a lot. One particularly bad one was a pan at 2:40. I assume it is something in either your encoding or the Vimeo encoding. If this is not in your original footage, maybe you could try encoding it again & upload another copy??
I would have loved to hear some form of a narration. Something describing the fact that while winter looms large, summer still tries to hang on???? Just thinking out loud here!! There is certainly a story to be told, & that would really elevate this film even further in my opinion.
Great job, i look forward to seeing a lot more of your stuff!
Regards,
Bryce

Bob Safay
December 1st, 2015, 05:02 PM
Tim, Welcome. I concur. Beautiful color and pace, really matched the music. The opening with the bird calls and the close up of the leaves said it all, good-by summer, hello winter. I also liked the way you incorporated people out enjoying that Last Fine Day before Winter. My one comment was that I just didn't quite get the meaning of the contrail. Other than that, Great job. Bob

Kevin Railsback
December 1st, 2015, 08:29 PM
Tim,

One word to describe your film... meditative. Very soothing and relaxing. It's the kind of piece that I love to do/

A few things...

Your shot of the duck out of focus at :29 is great. So many people would have tried to get the duck in focus and have the branches out of focus. It takes a different way of seeing to know that this shot works. It's something I've been trying to do more of. Kudos for seeing that.

Like Bob, the plane contrail kind of threw me. I think maybe because it was kind of jarring. Soothing nature and then BAM a jet and contrail. I think if you put it in further down in the piece where you had the people interacting with nature you could have used to as a message that either Fall is going away or that the people were hoping to fly away to be able to experience more days like this one.

I'm not usually one that reads meaning into shots. A duck is a duck to me most of the time but I think putting the jet later in the film would have been a great subliminal message.

I also noticed a lot of vertical jitter but that really didn't take away from the beauty and serenity of your film.

Wonderful piece, I see so many great things. For me the shot of the leaf at 3:07 was golden.I love how you can see the displacement of the leaf in the water. Probably not something that you'd get a lot of comments on but I love seeing the simple things like that.

Wonderful entry!

Trond Saetre
December 2nd, 2015, 10:20 AM
Hi Tim, very nice to have you with us.

I really enjoyed watching your film.
You already got some good feedback here, and I don't have much else to add.
The shot of the duck at 0:30 was priceless! I agree with Kevin about the focus choice. The crisp colors, the reflections in the water.
As with my own film, the only thing I feel is missing, is a story. I mean it is good as it is now, but some narration would have improved it a bit.

Well done!
I look forward to see more of your films in future challenges.

Tim Lewis
December 2nd, 2015, 02:01 PM
Thanks for all your comments. It may be time to come clean about my entry.

I am living in Canada while we are here for my son's education. I brought only two suitcases and a camera bag with me for an indefinite stay of two to three years, so you can imagine I could fit all my camera gear in. So I have with me my two Canon HF200's. These are amateur, but well-featured cameras. I can do a lot with them, but not everything. Many features are a bit buried in menus and hard to access while filming.

So... for all of you who loved the shot of the duck, as do I, it was not so much a creative choice, but as I said in Cat's comments section as well, it was just that I couldn't get the camera to autofocus on the duck with those branches in the way. The film shows four seconds of that shot, but the original is scarcely any longer, it was over just about as soon as it began. I included it in the final cut because it was a different way of seeing the scene and the more I watched, the more I too really liked it that way.

It has been a few months since I have used my cameras. I was hit by a car while out on my bike in May and am still getting over the injuries. So the internal battery was flat and I had lost all my settings. I went through both cameras and reset all the settings making sure they were both the same, so I know I can always be certain of what my cameras will give me. Muggins here though set the OIS to ON instead of OFF and that is why there are those sudden vertical shifts in the footage. I had no choice but to continue with the entry. Also there is a little bit of camera movement that looks similar in the sunrise shots because I was shooting on a bridge and just as the shot I wanted occurred someone rode past on a bike and vibrated everything.

I think all of you got where I was going with the film. You have used words like peaceful and meditative. It was just the sort of tone I was hoping for, for this lament to Summer. By the way, I just thought the contrail was pretty, even more so with my eyes.

The guy walking was me. I hurried back to make sure the people coming down the path didn't nick my camera, then cut it together.

This is in the middle of town and it is partly an industrial area. The background noise was mostly from the construction of a new hydro station, so all the tracks were muted and the bird noises etc were added from some I had recorded earlier a bit further out of town. The water noises came from my sound effects library. I tried with no background noise, just music, but although quieter, it was not as peaceful

Of course the main criticism of the piece is it doesn't have a story. I contend that it does, just not a very big story. I went out early for a walk along the river and ended up at the park around lunchtime. I don't know if you hate your recorded voice as much as I do. I do not have the dulcet tones of Bob Safay, and always think my VO sounds forced and unnatural, so that is why it has no voiceover, although it may have been a good addition. I may try one later and see how it goes.

This is also rendered at 540p for the final file as my computer won't handle much more, so not as nice as some.

Thanks for all your constructive criticisms.

Gordon Hoffman
December 2nd, 2015, 03:50 PM
Tim I think you pretty much nailed it. Forgeting the OIS on I can relate to. Annoying when you see the footage jump. I laughed when I read your comments in Cat thread about the duck. But as everyone has commented it works well. Something else learned by accident! Sorry to hear about your accident, you gotta watch the Canadian drivers.
Anyway a nice laid back piece to watch.

Gordon

Tim Lewis
December 2nd, 2015, 05:31 PM
Thanks Gordon. I am sure I will continue to make the odd silly mistake, but practice does make perfect.

Gordon Hoffman
December 2nd, 2015, 05:42 PM
Yes Tim practice helps. I'm much better at making mistakes!

Gordon

Vishal Jadhav
December 3rd, 2015, 04:23 AM
Tim,

This video has a very calming effect, very unlike as i cut too fast this one flows i like that part of the video, you do have a nice way to make your shots.

Paul Wood
December 3rd, 2015, 01:42 PM
Tim,
A nice, well paced film, showing us the last fine day waking up, and then increasing in pace as the people wake up and begin to take advantage of the weather.
The choice of music added to the feeling. I very much enjoyed it!

Geir Inge
December 6th, 2015, 03:23 AM
Hi Tim.

I think you deliver a fine film.
So relaxing and tranquil.
The music is all fine and I like the way you have put this piece together.
The people in it makes it more credible, at least that's what I think of it.
Great colors too.
Thank you for sharing and hope to see you next round.
Cheers!

Tim Lewis
December 8th, 2015, 04:39 PM
A Walk by the River on Vimeo

I went out on Saturday because we had another really nice day, not 18 degrees, but just 8 degrees. Still very pleasant for this time of the year and much warmer than last year. I went on a walk along the river in the other direction and this time I had the OIS switched to OFF!

Again not much of a story, and it may have been better with some VO, but I don't really have the facility for VO. I used Clipwrap to transcode the media on the way in to ProRes 422 and was pleased to find that my 2011 MacBook Air handled it quite well. I have been watching Izzy Hyman's FCPX tutorials and did the edit with it. Quite pleased, but now I have to get back out and shoot some more.

Final Cut Pro X Tutorial, Web-Based and Free to Watch! (http://www.izzyvideo.com/final-cut-pro-x-tutorial/)

Bryce Comer
December 8th, 2015, 05:50 PM
Tim,
Some more really lovely shots. No stutter to the shots this time! Really well edited, & i loved the music you had with it. Not sure why it is only showing up as a 720p video on Vimeo. Did you output to 720 in FCPX? Funny, it kinda reminds me of an old film of Kevin's. We never saw his face in that one either!
Thanks for sharing
Bryce

Tim Lewis
December 8th, 2015, 06:15 PM
Hi Bryce

With only a free Vimeo account I don't put out the highest quality to Vimeo as it quickly runs over my data limit. I got FCPX to out put 540p, not quite sure how it ended up at 720, but I got that too when I watched it. I will have to check the settings on the share destination.

I put the Master File out at 1080p. The Macbook Air did it surprisingly quickly.

Cheers

Tim

Bryce Comer
December 8th, 2015, 07:59 PM
Interesting Tim,
You could always try Youtube as well. I too don't have a pro account with Vimeo & am limited to Vimeo's upload limit. I have found recently though, that Youtube not only doesn't have those same limits, but also the videos that i have uploaded were encoded without having to wait. I also encoded a video in 4k & uploaded it & it looks fantastic! Maybe worth a try?
Regards,
Bryce

Andrew Hood
December 9th, 2015, 07:18 AM
Hi Tim
really liked how this built up from the beginning and introduced the setting one bit at a time. The colours were great. Was the vertical jitter to do with the tripod?. I think with respect to the story it felt like it was building up to something, and then we saw general activity of people enjoying the park. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be great to focus in on one person or a couple to see what they do in the park. Obviously you'd have to organise this (the tricky part), as harassing people by following them around with a camera doesn't tend to go down well. Maybe the person going fishing, or someone training could be interesting - just a thought I had. A very enjoyable entry as it stands.

Tim Lewis
December 9th, 2015, 09:30 AM
Thanks Andrew for your considered advice. You are right, that would have been a better way to end the film.

The vertical jitter was having the OIS on while on the tripod (not recommended).

Catherine Russell
December 10th, 2015, 09:21 AM
Hi Tim!

Just wanted to let you know you are a fun and generous contributor to UWOL and I'm glad we met this round!

Cheers!
Cat

Dale Guthormsen
December 10th, 2015, 10:23 AM
Tim,

It was a very pleasant watch, perhaps titled serenity before winter!!!

I enjoyed it very much

If I had any criticism it would be alot of it seemed like a slide show, particularly the first half.

by the way, you are quite good with your camera!!!!! turn the ois off and leave it there Easy one to forget if you are prone to use it. then you get home to edit and curse at yourself. I have done that to many times!!!! I just leave it off all the time now.

thank you for taking the time and sharing your nook in this fine country of ours!!

Tim Lewis
December 11th, 2015, 06:36 AM
Hi Cat, thanks for the welcome, everyone here is so kind it is easy to be generous.

Dale, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Yes it could have been confused for a slideshow, except there was movement within the frame (most of the time). I prefer to have steady shots, so they are all taken from a tripod. I have only my cheaper tripods in Canada and the pan/tilt on them is not so good as with which I would be pleased, so I tend not to move them. (I am hoping to get a slider for Christmas, which would increase camera movement options.)

OIS was missed in Settings when the camera reset from lack of use. I never use it otherwise.

Tim Lewis
January 14th, 2016, 09:21 AM
http://player.vimeo.com/video/151723611


This is why I got out while the weather was good.

Why does this BB software that the forum uses have so much trouble displaying the videos????

Kevin Railsback
January 15th, 2016, 07:04 AM
Kinda looks like Iowa most winters! :)

Tim Lewis
January 15th, 2016, 08:20 AM
Yep, we have had it pretty easy this year, Kevin. I filmed the "Last Fine Day" on the fourth of November, expecting that Winter would come crashing in any day soon. It has only been in January that we have had anything much in the way of snow. The video above was shot on the eleventh of January, so a pretty mild winter so far. Middle of January? Winter is nearly over before it began.

Kevin Railsback
January 15th, 2016, 08:47 AM
Been a weird year here in Iowa so far. Had 10" of snow in November then maybe another inch in December.
It was 45 F yesterday and will be -1 F Sunday