My editing pc's are never the fastest I can buy and I prefer to get something with a proven reliability history then being on the cutting edge. My current pc is a i7 3770 with 8gb of memory which is 3 years old but the past year, for whatever reason I got different kinds of instability issues and last week it refused to start up anymore and it kept hanging in the bootscreen with no way to get into the bios. Imagine the horror of not being able to open that weddingproject I nearly had finished and 2 others I had been making some rough editing on. I eventually got it to start up just by replugging the mouse and keyboard usb plugs into another port and then I saw a black screen with continuous messages about errors found on one of my drives and it was repairing it.

This pc actually belonged to my dad who passed away 2 years ago and it replaced my i7 950, my dad had this pc custom build by one or the other computer nerd so don't know if the instability issues where already caused by a wrong choice of hardware. It was not easy for me to continue using his pc as it felt I was stealing something from him but it was a bit silly to sell it and it had better specs then my pc I was using then.

The past 2 years it has served me well but I got more and more problems with it, especially the past half year, maybe because of a malfunction harddrive or another piece of hardware.

So I decided it was time to get a new pc and I was surprised how cheap I was able to get one from on of our largest pc store for less then 1000 euro excl taxes (1134 dollar) for a i7 4790k with 32gb of memory and a 250gb samsung ssd. For only 50 euro more I could get the new i7 6700k but I could not find any confirmation back if gpu on the motherboard supported quicksync in combination with Edius, I only found back that the current intel drivers did not make this work. But the i7 4790k was well known for it's excellent performance and many users use this processor in combination with edius and quicksync does work with the cpu. The new I7 6700k is just a bit faster, only the gpu on the motherboard is about 15-20% faster but I didn't want to take the risk of not getting quicksync to work and being stuck with cpu rendering only and I didn't want to wait until I found out. I still have quite some weddings to edit so needed something, hopefully, reliable asap.

quicksync is something you absolutely need with edius as it improves on 4k playback and improves rendertimes drastically compared to cpu only.

I was also surprised about the performance gains I got, a 10 minute sequence with a mixture of 4k from the ax100 and footage from the gh4 and rx10 took only 3min 30 sec to render to a 1080p mp4 file and if I rendered to a hqavi file, edius own intermediate codec, it only took 02:23.

I was also able to run four 4k files from a ax100 in a multicam sequence in realtime without any stutter, once I added a 5th layer it was not realtime anymore, the videofiles where running on a raid 0 which where two 2tb wd red pro drives.

So I recovered my nvidia quadro k420 card from my old pc (edius doesn't need a fast graphics card) and I added my old winfast PxVC1100 card which works together with tmpgenc authoring works and can render a bluray disc in twice realtime and then I recovered my hd spark card from my old pc that sends what is on the timeline full screen to a full hd tv so I have 2 pc screens with edius on it and the tv as my full screen preview.

Hopefully this will keep me going the following 4 or so years, do you guys invest a lot in your editing pc's and do you choose the components specifically for your NLE?

Noa, I am also an Edius user ver. 5.51 on a custom PC built in 2009 with an i7 920 processor and HD Spark card out to a HDTV. It works very well but obviously does not work with 4K. So I am looking to upgrade soon. Thanks for the helpful information. I was leaning towards the 6700 processor but it sounds like the 4790 will work well.

I have edius 8 workgroup, forgot to mention that. The i7 6700k is a faster cpu from the benchmarks I have seen but cpu speed is just a very minor difference, only the gpu makes more difference. It might work perfect with edius, don't know yet, but I don't regret getting the older version, it's more then fast enough for my purpose. Edius 5.5 was my first nle from edius I used after I switched from premiere cs3. By far the most stable version I had used. Edius 6 was quite unstable on my machine, edius 7 was better but still had issues and edius 8 is again rocksolid so far.

I just spent 1500 on a custom built one.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/528917-time-build.html has most of what I bought.

I hope it gives me 3 more years, I plan to go full bore FCXP hopefully the next time I build or need a new machine since I groan a lot using Vegas.

I bought all my stuff from Newegg, for what that's worth.

Without wanting to start a debate about Mac v PC :) but after years of PC unreliability I bought a 27 inch iMac, now nearly two years old and hasn't missed a beat, I rarely got more than 2 years out of a PC and I never owned a trouble free one despite them being built to custom spec

The pc I inherited from my dad was actually the first one that caused me problems, probably because it was custombuild. Before that some of my pc's where prebuild models from bigger local pc stores and I also owned a few dell's before that. Never had any problems worth mentioning. My wife still uses my first q6600 quad core I got from Dell which I think is around 8 years old and to my surprise it still is running :) My replacement cycle is usually every 3-4 years, not because I have to but considering the low cost for a replacement the performance gains I get each time are worth it.

I like making my own PC's. Part of my retirement hobby and that way I research what to put in it and construct myself. Replace about every 2 years and sometimes just do an upgrade and sometimes a complete replace. Older PC's do some other duty in the house. Have one for just finance ( no email at all etc ), one for just email and WEB surfing, my wife has one etc. The last edit PC is now my email and WEB surfing PC and still has EDIUS 6.08 on it. Latest is an i7 4790 running WIN 7 and EDIUS 7.5. Will wait until EDIUS 8.1 comes out and may build an i7 6700K with WIN 10 then. I have been building PC's since the late 1980's and the only problems have been hardware failures of hard drives etc that has been common to the friends with Mac's too . Unlike a Mac, PC's have the opportunity to install hardware and software that are not compatible.

PC's and video are a couple of hobbies where technology progress gives more for the same replacement cost or a straight replacement of functionality for a lot less. My i7 4790 was just an upgrade of processor , motherboard and memory so was less than $800 for a big improvement over the i7 2600K originally in that box.

Ron Evans

I built my first computer in Dec 2011. Saved several hundred dollars by buying Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals, along with all the sales this time of year.

A comparable Dell was around $4,000 and I built mine for under $2,000.

i7 2600K
16GB RAM
NVidia GTX 560 (I think it was)
750W modular power
Corsair Case
Liquid Cooling System
now has 6 hard drives in it.

It's probably time to upgrade to the latest and greatest. 4 years is a pretty good run for me, and if it wasn't for 4K stuff, I wouldn't even be thinking about upgrading because it's still rock solid 4 years later.

I built mine and have upgraded parts as I have been able to afford it. I am going to assume it's around 1k. I am definitely going to get another GPU so I can have two running next. :)

Without wanting to start a debate about Mac v PC :) but after years of PC unreliability I bought a 27 inch iMac, now nearly two years old and hasn't missed a beat, I rarely got more than 2 years out of a PC and I never owned a trouble free one despite them being built to custom spec
I agree 100%. My 2008 Mac Pro 3,1 8 core 2x2.8GHz is still going strong almost seven years after purchase (€2200/£1730 in November 2008).

I have upgraded it a little with SSD disks on a SATA-III PCIe card, USB-3 card, a faster graphics card (GTX570) & it now has 32GB of memory. I also had to replace the power supply that failed after six years. Newer versions of OS X are faster & more memory efficient (also confirmed on my seven year old MacBook Pro) so even without the upgrades it would actually be faster than when I bought it!

Best of all it's been 100% rock solid without crashes, driver conflicts or any of the 101 irritations & foibles that I endured over the years with Windows systems.

That's one of the advantages of a closed system where the manufacturer decides for you what hardware can be used and that adds to the stability, maybe that's why my wifes 7-8 years old dell still runs on it's original components eventhough she has problems every now and then but that is because of all the shareware crap she installs on her pc. Otoh I read enough about Dell users that have had their share of issues. Also it's not because you buy a pc or a mac where the manufacturer limits your upgrading options to ensure stability that it is a failsafe system, there are also enough reports from people having problems and a mac is not an exception here, hardware does eventually fail and failing hardware results in a unstable system.

I have upgraded it a little with SSD disks on a SATA-III PCIe card, USB-3 card, a faster graphics card (GTX570) & it now has 32GB of memory. I also had to replace the power supply that failed after six years. Newer versions of OS X are faster & more memory efficient (also confirmed on my seven year old MacBook Pro) so even without the upgrades it would actually be faster than when I bought it!

I also have upgraded older pc's in the past to find out it's often not worth the cost compared to just buying a new pc, Much depends on what components your NLE depends on most but the sheer processing power of a current processor, like a i7 6700k compared to one from 7 years ago, even if that would be a xeon processor might result in doubling the speed of your renders and handling current processor intensive native codecs without much sweat while the older system would choke on it, even with memory or graphics card upgrades.

The only reason why I would not invest in a Mac is because it is so expensive and I do know you do get a good system in return but what I do read is that Mac owners often tend to stretch their mac''s life by upgrading because that still is much cheaper then buying a new system but eventually you do end up with a system that will become slower then a 1K new pc. Raw speed would not be the most important part for me, stability is, but second is definitely easy handling of any codec I trow at it.

I also think that pc's and Mac's are being used longer by photographers and that they rather replace components then just buying a new machine, especially the past years video codecs have stressed computercomponents a lot more then dealing with jpegs or raw photos, that's why my wife is still happy with that q6600 processor pc with 4gb of memory to deal with her photos in photoshop. I wouldn't event think of using that machine to deal with my ax100 or gh4 4K files as it would just come to a halt :)

since I got the two AX100's my machine is almost at the limit for processing etc. I probably need a faster GPU not to mention storage, I currently have 4 Tb internally installed and another 5 Tb external I will probably need more by next year,
I'd like if i could have everything on Linux to run natively not in a virtual box Wine etc.
I use a Mac sometimes as well as a PC i'm not really brand conscious same with phones and cameras or cars, if it does the job great!

:-)

FWIW Rob, I now have everything I need for video editing running natively on Linux with the exception of Cinescore and Sonicfire Pro which are in Virtualbox, but that's because I choose to continue to use them occasionally.

In case it makes a difference I am not shooting UHD, although Cinelerra (HV) is supposed to be capable of editing it.

Dave

Well modern Mac's and PC's are all Intel PC's anyway. So the difference is the restrictions on hardware and software dictated by Apple. Do the same for a Windows PC and the outcome will be the same. I have one PC that has been running well without failure for almost 8 years and has been upgraded with software from XP to WIN 7. Also since they are the same hardware the performance is likely very close for the same components, including failure of power supplies etc as noted.

The main differences are the choice of software and even that isn't much of a restriction these days if a Mac owner wants to run Windows software. I know lots who have both a Mac and PC purely to run the software they want to use which in my mind is the correct way of looking at purely a computing engine.

The vulnerability of PC's comes from the vast choice of software and hardware not available to a Mac leading to a very real clash of drivers etc. Also since there are a lot more PC's than Mac's they are a better target for hackers etc bent on causing problems. Easily solved by having more than one PC. I have a PC just for editing software that has given me no trouble through several upgrades of hardware and software. It has EDIUS 7.5 on it as well as Vegas 11 and Vegas 12 , Adobe Production Suite CS6 and lots of other software for editing. Only go to internet for program updates. I have another that I use for email and the WEB if that gets a virus ( never has so far ) I do not care just wipe and reload from an image file.

If you want to run EDIUS or Vegas you will need Windows. You can still do this on a Mac hardware these days though.

Ron Evans

Without wanting to start a debate about Mac v PC :) but after years of PC unreliability I bought a 27 inch iMac, now nearly two years old and hasn't missed a beat, I rarely got more than 2 years out of a PC and I never owned a trouble free one despite them being built to custom spec

My PC is 4 years old, same processor, and I'm editing multicamera 4K with it.

If you had unreliable PCs it was because of what you chose, not because PCs are inferior.

As a rule, people that know hardware very well are PC people. I assemble my own. Mac people tend to know very little a bout the inner workings of a computer. However, they can count on Mac because of the limited number of configurations and because they are all built by Apple, not dozens of different companies like PCs are. Hence, if you are a PC person you need to know what you're buying or build your own.

My friend buys Apple machines, expensive units, about $7K per machine for his editing staff. I look over the component list and I can't believe the price he paid, and the Graphics cards are actually somewhat dated!

Apples are seriously expensive and it would be a cinch to use same components and build your own for half the price or less. As has been said it's a closed system, but they are by not means any better because of the badge on the case. They put together super compatible components, charge a lot, and people think that Macs are "amazing". They are fine, but anyone that knows hardware can put their own together for much, much less, and get a faster CPU in the bargain.

I buy a new iMac every other year, max out the RAM (aftermarket), and sell the old one. Cost is less than $400/year. I do the same with the macbook, sometimes buy a new one every year. Their resale value is unbelievable - the Macbook costs more like $200/yr.

So I'm now looking at starting to spec out a new system thanks to this talk and other discussions online. lol

I'm looking at hard drives and am seeing these PCI-E hard drives that go where like video cards and sound cards usually go... and the speeds on these things are considerably faster than even SSDs.

HyperX Predator Half-Height, Half-Length (HH-HL) 240GB PCI-Express 2.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SHPM2280P2H/240G (with HHHL Adapter) - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104544)

1400MB/s read and 1000MB/s write

On that one vs about 1/2 those numbers for SSDs...

I may have to look into this more.

Has anyone used one of these? I see some folks in reviews saying it's their C: Drive.

I'm new to video and video editing. My computer has the ancient Q6600 cpu which, I discovered, cannot handle HD multi-cam editing very well. I also discovered that the cpu was running very hot when exporting, despite having a massive heat sink. So last week I bought parts to build a computer dedicated to video (and photo) editing. I wanted to have this last me a long time but I didn't want to overspend. So I bought a i7-5280K cpu, a Geforce 960-based video card, 16GB of RAM and some more drives. The idea is that I would upgrade a few components if/when I move to UHD cameras.

I finally put it together last night but have yet to install the OS - Windows 10. All together, I probably spent CAD$2000, but I think it might last for quite a while.

Regarding issues with PCs - I have been using/building them since I was a teen and I've never had any software problems - only hardware problems. Maybe I've been lucky?

So I'm now looking at starting to spec out a new system thanks to this talk and other discussions online. lol

I'm looking at hard drives and am seeing these PCI-E hard drives that go where like video cards and sound cards usually go... and the speeds on these things are considerably faster than even SSDs.

HyperX Predator Half-Height, Half-Length (HH-HL) 240GB PCI-Express 2.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SHPM2280P2H/240G (with HHHL Adapter) - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104544)

1400MB/s read and 1000MB/s write

On that one vs about 1/2 those numbers for SSDs...

I may have to look into this more.

Has anyone used one of these? I see some folks in reviews saying it's their C: Drive.

Kyle, they were cost prohibitive until now. Check this out Samsung 950 Pro SSD Review - Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-950-pro-ssd,4313.html)

I have read ssd's have a much shorter lifespan then harddrives, especially when they are stressed so much as a videodrive + the fact that harddrives still give you a lot more space for the same money. Those PCI-E ssd drives are not a good investment if you plan on using them as a disc for your OS and programs, the speed difference compared to a regular ssd to start up programs is negligible.

My friend buys Apple machines, expensive units, about $7K per machine for his editing staff. I look over the component list and I can't believe the price he paid, and the Graphics cards are actually somewhat dated!
The baseline Mac Pro is $3k, the top-end Mac Pro is $4k.
Apples are seriously expensive and it would be a cinch to use same components and build your own for half the price or less. As has been said it's a closed system, but they are by not means any better because of the badge on the case. They put together super compatible components, charge a lot, and people think that Macs are "amazing". They are fine, but anyone that knows hardware can put their own together for much, much less, and get a faster CPU in the bargain.
You can't put together your own Apple. You could put together your own Windows PC, but then it would run Windows and it wouldn't be an Apple.

This is sort of like saying "why on earth would anyone buy a Lexus, my Honda has just as much trunk space and goes faster and costs half as much."

Well, some people don't want a Honda. They want a Lexus.

I was a PC guy for decades until basically all editing on the PC died out and I switched to Mac. Everything is so much smoother.

Every few years I upgrade, and I always investigate moving back to PC (especially now that I edit Premiere) ... but it just doesn't make sense for me. The couple hundred bucks it costs me to stay Mac pays for itself over and over again in reliability and not having to deal with Windows.

Well, some people don't want a Honda. They want a Lexus.

If you want a lexus in a pc shape then you buy a workstation, they also have certified components/drivers that are specifically chosen and tested not to have any conflicts and it's also priced accordingly.

The baseline Mac Pro is $3k, the top-end Mac Pro is $4k.

A top end mac pro goes over 10k if you max it out on the apple configuration page so Jeff's 7k estimate can be correct depending on what hardware they choose.

I think it's best not to go the "my pc/mac is better then yours" route, it leads nowhere, I did find it interesting to hear about selling your second hand macs though and to keep your new investments easier on your wallet, I personally would also only buy a second hand computer if it would be max 1 year old and if there still would be a manufacturer warranty on it.

To get back on subject I like to invest & buy high end at the time, and have it last. I'm still on an HP from early 2011 which originally had 8GB Ram & I upgraded it to 16GB about 2 years ago. Handles HDV & AVCHD fine.

The only issues I have are my hard drive seems to have some corrupted space, as about 300GB seems deleted but not available. I have Free Disk Analyser which shows the files, but I cannot delete them (I think it says 'Unrecognized' or something. They're definitely old weddings from 2013) nor thru Windows Explorer. I'd like to run CCleanup after I'm done all my years edits (2 left) and see if I can recover the space, but I don't want to eff it up & do something remarkably stupid while in the middle of editing these. Plus, then if I need a new editing PC I can take my time in buying it, not be in a asap rush. I do have a laptop, but it's old & I couldn't think of editing on it, just good enough to live & check email & surf the web.

Ultimately tho I do think it's wise to go all out on Computers, as RAM & HD space you can typically upgrade halfway thru the computers lifecycle. Admittedly 5 years was a great run outta mine, I'll see if I can get another. I'd like to check out this Windows 10 upgrade but I use CS4 still & I read it doesn't work on it, so I'll hold off.

I have had a WD black drive go bad on me with "lost media" notifications in Edius and after a restart of my pc got a lot of "fixing errors" messages on files that where located on that drive, windows 7 each time managed to make the files accessible again but after the following "lost media" message I just replaced the drive. I would just copy all the data on your malfunctioning disc to another disc and then format it and see if it then fixes your problem, I wouldn't mess with it with valuable data on it.

On my new pc I still installed windows 7 pro as I do have good experiences with it and all my older software runs on it (I still use access 2000 that runs fine on win 7 but not on win 8 anymore)

A top end mac pro goes over 10k if you max it out on the apple configuration page so Jeff's 7k estimate can be correct depending on what hardware they choose.
I bet I could spec out a Windows PC that would be more expensive than the highest-end Mac Pro. It still wouldn't have any bearing on this conversation.
I did find it interesting to hear about selling your second hand macs though and to keep your new investments easier on your wallet, I personally would also only buy a second hand computer if it would be max 1 year old and if there still would be a manufacturer warranty on it.
I agree with you 1000% and I am stunned it continues to work. Learned this trick from a fellow named "Jade" on arstechnica who referred to it as "the Jade plan", in fact if you google it, you'll find his numbers behind it. It is far and away cheaper to buy and sell every 12-18 months than it is to buy high-end and EOL the PC at the end of 4 years.

My dad buys a new $15k riding lawn mower every single year. He uses it until the day the new model comes out then he buys a brand new one and sells the used one for $1k off list price. They sell right away. Seems terribly wasteful, but if you look at it, you'd expect a riding lawnmower to last 10-15 years and then be worth basically nothing, and as it stands he is riding in a brand new lawnmower every day for 15 years and basically paying the price as you are, riding your broken down dinged up lawnmower 15 years from now. It's a good deal for my old man, it's a good deal for the guy saving $1k on what's basically a brand-new lawnmower (with 1 year wear on it). I would never buy a 1 year old lawnmower for only $1k less than list on a new one, but I gotta be honest, $1k saved is $1k saved, there are (apparently) a lot of people out there ready to save a thousand bucks.

On both lawnmowers and Macs.

I bet I could spec out a Windows PC that would be more expensive than the highest-end Mac Pro. It still wouldn't have any bearing on this conversation.

Not sure what you are trying to say here, I was responding to your statement that a top end mac pro was 4k which was a reply to Jeff's statement that his friends mac costs 7k, on the apple page it's easy to reach 7k once you tick a few upgrade boxes so my point was that Jeff's statement could be correct. It is correct though that you can get similar prices on workstations that can be equipped with the same components.

I would never buy a 1 year old lawnmower for only $1k less than list on a new one

The amount that other's save on a second hand computer I pay for a new one :) The only thing that would worry me is warranty, if that is covered for at least another year then you'd have some piece of mind if a expensive motherboard or graphics card would die. Prices on some components in these high end computers can also be more then I would be willing to pay.

If you want a lexus in a pc shape then you buy a workstation, they also have certified components/drivers that are specifically chosen and tested not to have any conflicts and it's also priced accordingly.Historically Mac Pros have been similarly priced to top end Dell or HP workstation in fact often rather better value,
I did find it interesting to hear about selling your second hand macs though and to keep your new investments easier on your wallet, I personally would also only buy a second hand computer if it would be max 1 year old and if there still would be a manufacturer warranty on it.
It's a sound investment to purchase Apple Care which extends the warranty to three years in total. It's also literally impossible to purchase for a PC the sort of warranty that Apple offers e.g. worldwide cover, onsite repair for desktops, vast international network for walk-in service at Apple retail stores Apple (UK) - Support - AppleCare - Mac and Apple Display (http://www.apple.com/uk/support/products/mac.html)
You can buy Apple Care any time during the first year after purchase.

I guess if you plan to sell your computer every year the extended warranty is something that would make sense to get extra as it would sell easier, I"m just not that into buying second hand considering how cheap pc's seem to be priced these days. Much depends on what software you are on because you mainly buy a pc that is optimized for it.
When I see that for just a 1K investment that will last me 3-4 years which allows me to run four 4k native layers in a multicam without stutter and can output a one hour film with native 4K files in 25 minutes to a bluray compatible file that's more then fast enough for my current use. The best warranty in case of hardware failure however would be to buy two 1K pc and use one as backup, no need to wait, just switch drives and your editing again and in the meantime you just send your pc in for repair. If having back up is that important when you have deadlines to meet it's about the cheapest option and you have a equally specc'd pc, many, me included use an older pc as back up but often you run into performance issues handling demanding codecs.

Like I said stability is even more important for me but my experience in that area with pc's I bought throughout the years from large pc dealers have always been very good with the exception from the pc I had been using until recently which was custom build. I only hope my current one will make me happy again :)

Gentlemen,

I have PCs in my editing suite that are now self built with help from my brilliant son. Its time for a new one so no use going into the current model. This is what is exciting to me. In addition to my video work I also work as a Producer/Technical Director on corporate AV gigs. So I have a long history of buying high end expensive lap tops. My "show computers" must be 100% reliable and do much more than just PowerPoint. I have used both Macs and PCs with equal success. The part I don't like is once you go for high end the price goes up exponentially, but of course, if your lucky you get what you pay for.

My new HP 17" Z Book Work Station lap top (if you can call it all that) is mind blowing to me. I am on the road a lot. I finally have a computer that can do everything I need and do it well. I can edit multiple layers of HD video and it does not even blink. It works for me on video sets, in hotel room edit sessions, and in the ballroom. I have had it eight months without a single hiccup. Connectivity is super important to me, it has that, plus with display port outputs I bought a bunch of adapters for legacy connections. Yes, it is big and heavy to travel with, but that is OK, part of the weight is the rock solid build I need. It lists for $3,000.00 but I paid $2,500.00 I paid dearly for it but it is worth every dollar. HP did a great job of making this a truly professional machine and I would not say that about some of their other stuff I have owned

2.8 GHz Intel Core i7-4810MQ Quad-Core
16GB of 1600 MHz PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM
17.3" Anti-Glare Display
Full HD1920 x 1080 Native Resolution
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M Graphics Card (4GB)
256GB M.2 PCIe SSD & 1TB 7200 rpm HDD
SuperMulti DVD Burner
802.11ac Wi-Fi & Bluetooth 4.0
Thunderbolt 2
USB 3
Display ports (enables, HDMI, DVI, Firewire, external monitors etc)
VGA out
Windows 7 Pro

I love this machine. They also make "Z" series towers. If I was not going to build my own I would look into those.

It runs so clean I am hesitant to go with Windows 10. I'm not sure yet? I am usually a, if it works don't fix it guy. But Win 10 is supposed to be able to take advantage of some of my components for even more efficiency. You thoughts on that appreciated?

Kind Regards,

Steve

Note: I also bought a Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle with Thunderbolt to give it HD video live in/out. What a piece of crap. Total waste of $225.00

I"m editing my second wedding on the new pc and it's very smooth sailing, everything is much smoother then on my older i7 3770 when I edit a variety of demanding codecs natively, either 1080p or 4K, multicam or not, it makes no difference.


It runs so clean I am hesitant to go with Windows 10. I'm not sure yet? I am usually a, if it works don't fix it guy. But Win 10 is supposed to be able to take advantage of some of my components for even more efficiency. You thoughts on that appreciated?

I"m still on windows 7 pro, the best OS windows ever made if you ask me, I"m also a don't fix it if it works kind of person, not sure what advantages windows 10 would bring me either.