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Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 11:00 AM
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Craig Terott
October 13th, 2005, 11:14 AM
brilliant audio layering and moving camera tech - as ussual!

Dante Waters
October 13th, 2005, 11:18 AM
Glen,

Well done, the music, voice audio (iriver is clean), transisitons all well put together.

How long did this edit take, and what camera did you use? I would imagine you have a steadicam??

All in all it's well done.

Btw How's the website coming?

Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 11:25 AM
Glen,

Well done, the music, voice audio (iriver is clean), transisitons all well put together.

How long did this edit take, and what camera did you use? I would imagine you have a steadicam??

All in all it's well done.

Btw How's the website coming?

I'm very pleased with the results yeilded from a simple iRiver 790 and inexpensive Azden lapel mic.

I own a glidecam 4000 pro but I didn't use it in any shots for this piece. I primarily find myself using the glidecam during dance sequences at the reception.

The edit took a bit longer than usual and "usual" IS long. Probably close to the 10 hour mark. Possibly made longer because my work on it spawned 3-4 nights. I'm not doing this full time yet so I have limited time each evening to edit.

Website? Good question..I'm buying a domian now and attempting to buy my first pick which is owned by someone else but isn't utilized. Let's hope the owner is: 1) Willing to sell and 2) Willing to sell at a reasonable price

Dante Waters
October 13th, 2005, 11:39 AM
I'm very pleased with the results yeilded from a simple iRiver 790 and inexpensive Azden lapel mic.

I own a glidecam 4000 pro but I didn't use it in any shots for this piece. I primarily find myself using the glidecam during dance sequences at the reception.

The edit took a bit longer than usual and "usual" IS long. Probably close to the 10 hour mark. Possibly made longer because my work on it spawned 3-4 nights. I'm not doing this full time yet so I have limited time each evening to edit.

Website? Good question..I'm buying a domian now and attempting to buy my first pick which is owned by someone else but isn't utilized. Let's hope the owner is: 1) Willing to sell and 2) Willing to sell at a reasonable price


I've had experience with that sort of stuff it would be best to buy your own
let me know if you got your host as yet and also I'm in the NY area so would be a lot easier for us to communicate.

Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 11:45 AM
I've had experience with that sort of stuff it would be best to buy your own
let me know if you got your host as yet and also I'm in the NY area so would be a lot easier for us to communicate.


Thank you Dante.

Walter S. Chelliah
October 13th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Amazing work as usual, Mr. Elliott.

That is some smooth and polished magic on display there. The audio was especially sweet. Ear candy at it's finest.

I know you shoot with a DVX, but do you shoot in 60i? Is that a 4:3 frame cropped or 16:9?

Walter

Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 12:46 PM
Amazing work as usual, Mr. Elliott.

That is some smooth and polished magic on display there. The audio was especially sweet. Ear candy at it's finest.

I know you shoot with a DVX, but do you shoot in 60i? Is that a 4:3 frame cropped or 16:9?

Walter

Thanks Walt. I shoot with all Sony cams (PD-170 and VX2100's). I sold my DVX years ago.

I shoot in 4:3 and crop to 1:85:1 (tighter crop than 16x9).

Btw, I tried viewing your H.264 encoded clip but couldn't. I could have swore I upgraded to the newest version of QT. I hate how they "force" you to install iTunes with it.

Guest
October 13th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Wow. Top notch stuff. I don't normally check out wedding video posts, but did this one for some reason. I'm glad I did.

I'm curious about the music... sounds familiar.

I know you had more than one camera because another shooter was in one of the scenes. What did you shoot this with, and in what mode?

Lovely stuff. Gives us all a good name. My kudos.

Charles

Dante Waters
October 13th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Thanks Walt. I shoot with all Sony cams (PD-170 and VX2100's). I sold my DVX years ago.

I shoot in 4:3 and crop to 1:85:1 (tighter crop than 16x9).

Btw, I tried viewing your H.264 encoded clip but couldn't. I could have swore I upgraded to the newest version of QT. I hate how they "force" you to install iTunes with it.

Glen there is a 4:3 setting on the VX2100?
I didn't know that's what I own in fact I should post some stuff for you to view...

Craig Terott
October 13th, 2005, 01:57 PM
I shoot in 4:3 and crop to 1:85:1 (tighter crop than 16x9).


Glen, I'm currious as to why you don't opt to shoot anamophic 16:9 then crop to 1:85?

Thanks-

Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Wow. Top notch stuff. I don't normally check out wedding video posts, but did this one for some reason. I'm glad I did.

I'm curious about the music... sounds familiar.

I know you had more than one camera because another shooter was in one of the scenes. What did you shoot this with, and in what mode?

Lovely stuff. Gives us all a good name. My kudos.

Charles

Cameras were PD-170 and 2 VX2100's. Mode was standard. All effects and color correction is performed in post. Thanks.

Walter S. Chelliah
October 13th, 2005, 03:46 PM
Thanks Walt. I shoot with all Sony cams (PD-170 and VX2100's). I sold my DVX years ago.

I shoot in 4:3 and crop to 1:85:1 (tighter crop than 16x9).

Btw, I tried viewing your H.264 encoded clip but couldn't. I could have swore I upgraded to the newest version of QT. I hate how they "force" you to install iTunes with it.

Oh no, I was under the impression you were a DVX man. I usually use VX2000's and find them to be the best SD camera for events even though my next purchase may be a DVX100B.

Do you find through cropping you are able to get smoother images and better compositions? This is something I have been considering doing.

You're not missing much if you can't view my clip. I tested it on 3 separate computers using QT 7.0.2 and it seemed to work fine. I also detest the iTunes install. I usually just uninstall it right after as it adds 2 new RAM sucking processes to your task manager.

Walter

Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 04:46 PM
Glen, I'm currious as to why you don't opt to shoot anamophic 16:9 then crop to 1:85?

Thanks-

I don't want to deal with the anamorphic adapters. I love the flexability to go stock, .3x, .7x. or .55x on the fly...and I often do (change very often).

Glen Elliott
October 13th, 2005, 04:50 PM
Oh no, I was under the impression you were a DVX man. I usually use VX2000's and find them to be the best SD camera for events even though my next purchase may be a DVX100B.

Do you find through cropping you are able to get smoother images and better compositions? This is something I have been considering doing.

Walter

I don't know about "smoother images" or "better" compositions....I prefer the "look" of a more rectangular aspect ratio. Maybe the many years of watching feature films rubbed off on me. Oddly enough I don't compose with a crop in mind. I shoot my 4:3 footage like it's going to be displayed at full 4:3 w/o crop. This only becomes a problem when I do a really tight shot of the bride and groom- where just their faces are in the frame. When I go to crop some of their heads have to get cut off. I don't mind cutting off the top of their head but hate cutting off the chin. Usually I don't frame that tight and adding the crop allows me a great ability to adjust my composition in post...and animate and fake some vertical camera moves.

Michael McGruder
October 13th, 2005, 09:03 PM
I'm always amazed at the practice that you put into the movement without the use of a steadicam or other piece of equipment.. I think you once referred to it as a camera person's tai-chi - as the fluidity of movements creates a nice central point.... No doubt a technique that I'm struggling with, but improving on...

A quick question though - how much time do you spend ahead of time coordinating the different angles and shots at a reception or at the church?? Are the empty church shots you take basically pre-empts in preparation for the ceremony?? Meaning - do you take the shots in preparation for the setup you do during the ceremony??

I did notice, however, that there were times when the background music flooded over the officiant.. Granted, my speaker/headphone setup may be faulty - but I wanted to pass that along, just in case..

Great job Glen!
-Michael

Mark Von Lanken
October 13th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Hi Glen,

I already chimed in on the other site, but excellent job, as always.

Glen Elliott
October 14th, 2005, 06:09 AM
I'm always amazed at the practice that you put into the movement without the use of a steadicam or other piece of equipment.. I think you once referred to it as a camera person's tai-chi - as the fluidity of movements creates a nice central point.... No doubt a technique that I'm struggling with, but improving on...

A quick question though - how much time do you spend ahead of time coordinating the different angles and shots at a reception or at the church?? Are the empty church shots you take basically pre-empts in preparation for the ceremony?? Meaning - do you take the shots in preparation for the setup you do during the ceremony??

I did notice, however, that there were times when the background music flooded over the officiant.. Granted, my speaker/headphone setup may be faulty - but I wanted to pass that along, just in case..

Great job Glen!
-Michael

I usually attend rehearsals especially if it's a church I haven't shot before. I'll sometimes use the day of hte rehearsal to get shots of the church (keeping in mind it isn't decorated inside yet with flowers etc). The rest of the stuff is on the fly. When I'm in any given environment I'll spend a moment to look around and look for opportune shots. A lot of wedding videography is from the hip, at lest for me it seems.

Regarding the audio levels, I haven't noticed that on my end but will look into it. Thanks Michael.

Craig Terott
October 14th, 2005, 06:51 AM
I don't want to deal with the anamorphic adapters. I love the flexability to go stock, .3x, .7x. or .55x on the fly...and I often do (change very often).


I'm confused by your answer... I'm speaking about the 16:9 anamorphic mode which your VX-2000 & PD-170 are capable of shooting in right out of the box - no adaptors required. Even in anamorphic mode I think you would net just slightly better horizontal resolution after cropping.

I shoot 16:9 all the time, with whatever lens I choose... usually .7x

Glen Elliott
October 14th, 2005, 09:23 AM
I'm confused by your answer... I'm speaking about the 16:9 anamorphic mode which your VX-2000 & PD-170 are capable of shooting in right out of the box - no adaptors required. Even in anamorphic mode I think you would net just slightly better horizontal resolution after cropping.

I shoot 16:9 all the time, with whatever lens I choose... usually .7x

I've heard better results are yeilded by simple reformatting the 4:3 image for 16:9 in post rather than using the in-camera 16:9 setting on the Sony's.

I've never tested both to see if this rumor is true.

Jason Magbanua
October 15th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Amazing work Glen.

I always draw a lot from yours.