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Tim Akin
November 16th, 2014, 05:31 PM
Just noticed there's a new firmware version 1.02 on Sony support but haven't been able to find anything out about it. Anyone know anything about what this might be?

I downloaded it and looked at the PDF file but it's just instructions on how to install the update, not what it fixes.

Tim Akin
November 16th, 2014, 05:44 PM
Found this VERSION 1.02 SOFTWARE USER UPDATE FOR THE PXW-X70 RELEASED - Tech Talk (http://www.videocraft.com.au/faqs/index/tview/?id=820)

Doesn't say much except it fixes the L&R channel swap and improves some other functions.

Wonder what "other functions" is.

Darren Levine
November 17th, 2014, 08:16 AM
would be funny/demented if the update included grayed out 4k modes

sorry ;)

Ron Evans
November 17th, 2014, 08:19 AM
Interesting as when the PXW-Z100 and FDR-AX1 came out they had the L/R audio channels reversed too !!! Some common firmware ?

Ron Evans

Paul Anderegg
November 17th, 2014, 09:28 PM
Don't forget to save your camera profile settings to an SD card before doing the f/w update, because it will "blank" the camera to factory.

Paul

Tim Akin
November 18th, 2014, 06:02 AM
Good info Paul, I'm still trying to figure out what else the update does before loading it.

Christopher Young
November 22nd, 2014, 07:36 AM
it applies to cameras with v1.01 or earlier. The release states:

"VERSION 1.02 SOFTWARE USER UPDATE FOR THE PXW-X70 RELEASED

Sony has recently become aware that when recording in XAVC mode on the PXW-X70, the Left and Right audio channels are recorded swapped around.

Sony is offering a system software user update (Ver. 1.02) for this camcorder which corrects this phenomenon and improves other functions."

I've done the update and it does in fact correct the swapped audio track issue but as far as the 'other functions' comment well I have observed no changes in any other areas of the camera's functioning. Who knows I guess!

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Ron Evans
November 22nd, 2014, 07:48 AM
Chris the FDR-AX1 updated that fixed the left and right audio channel issue also changed the HDMI output to HDMI 2.0 to allow 50/60P output to TV's with HDMI 2.0 rather than just Sony 4K TV's. They may not say they have done this since the X70 does not yet have 4K !!!

Ron Evans

Christopher Young
November 23rd, 2014, 05:25 AM
I read somewhere during my research and made a mental note of the fact that the X70 was already 3G SDI and HDM I v2.0 compliant but I'm blowed if I can recall where I read that. No doubt we will find out in the fullness of time.

The UHD 4k upgrade only played a small part in my decision to get one and that was from a personal curiosity point of view. No client of mine has ever hinted at 4K and I won't be offering UHD / 4k unless I see myself losing business because I'm not offering it.

I can see some good uses in house for 4k like re-framing etc but for me UHD doesn't fit any business plan for the next year or so at least. What appealed to me was the fact that here was a little unobtrusive camera that produced pretty decent HD footage and above all was very easy to work with in tricky locations. In general I can get certain shots with it that are all but impossible with the full size XDCam kit.

I am curious about the noise issues some posters have mentioned though. As yet I haven't come across any of the issues mentioned but then again I haven't been looking for them. The conference I shot last week was recorded with a line level feed into Ch #2 with Ch #1 to top mic and it's as sweet as could be, beautifully clean. Will have to investigate further though to see if there are any gremlins in the system.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Ron Evans
November 23rd, 2014, 07:43 AM
I can induce noise on my NX5U, NX30U or FDR-AX1 by having a mic with 48volt on channel 1 and nothing on channel 2 but with this set to mic 48v and auto gain . With channel 2 set to line there is no noise especially if there is a line level input with manual gain as most of the time that is how they are set up. All the manuals say that if there is no mic inputs to set inputs to line level.

Ron Evans

Paul Anderegg
November 23rd, 2014, 01:55 PM
At least 4K XAVC S will ingest into FCP X. :-)

Paul

Ron Evans
November 23rd, 2014, 07:29 PM
At least 4K XAVC S will ingest into FCP X. :-)

Paul

That is true but for the X70 they may make the file format XAVC-L for 4K, 420 8 bit MXF just like the PXW-Z100 latest firmware release V3.0 just to make a difference to the AX100.

Ron Evans

Mike Griffiths
November 24th, 2014, 08:45 PM
Found this VERSION 1.02 SOFTWARE USER UPDATE FOR THE PXW-X70 RELEASED - Tech Talk (http://www.videocraft.com.au/faqs/index/tview/?id=820)

Doesn't say much except it fixes the L&R channel swap and improves some other functions.

Wonder what "other functions" is.

Tried to upgrade many times ( I'm in version 1.0) and I keep getting 'failed because of error in the process'
Tried all combinations, cards in, cards out, you name it. I've come from Panasonic where firmware upgrades work seamlessly. I've not been impressed so far with Sony's approach to software (the x70 is great!)

Does anyone have an idea what I should do now?

Paul Anderegg
November 24th, 2014, 08:57 PM
First make sure your f/w file is proper for the region your specific model is designed for. Next, save your current camera profile to an SD card. Then reset the camera back to factory stock, and attempt the f/w upgrade again. Perhaps a current setting is interfering with the process, but just to be safe, you will have all your settings backed up to SD card if the reset/update fails again.

Good luck!

Paul

Mike Griffiths
November 24th, 2014, 09:13 PM
Thanks Paul, but still no luck, I'll just have to live with it until another (? better?) firmware update arrives

Dave Blackhurst
November 25th, 2014, 04:58 AM
Never had a problem with a Sony FW update... smooth and easy every time... Alphas, Cybershots, Handycams...never a problem if I followed the directions , which sometimes have some quirky steps. I find I leave the directions up after downloading the updates so I can go down the list of steps, and I'm a "who needs stinkin' directions" kinda guy!

Maybe a bad cable or connection? I seem to recall Sony strongly suggested using the USB cable included with the camera, and I know I've got so many USB cables running around I don't know what came with what! And there are USB cables that will "fit" at the ends, but are wired differently...

Just a thought, could be completely wrong, but thought I'd mention it.

Ron Evans
November 25th, 2014, 06:30 AM
Another other need is to connect to mains power for upgrading most of the Sony camcorders and they can tell whether power is mains or battery. At least my NX5U and FDR-AX1need to be on mains powerto updte nd they can tell if it is not.
Ron Evans

Christopher Young
November 25th, 2014, 07:54 AM
Does anyone have an idea what I should do now?

I had a similar experience on one Windoze box but it had a utility called 'USB Safely Remove' in place of the normal Windows safely remove icon. No way would this PC upgrade the X70. Moved to a another Win 7 box that was running the normal Win USB safely remove icon and hey presto it upgraded without an issue. Go figure!

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Mike Griffiths
November 26th, 2014, 12:00 AM
Never had a problem with a Sony FW update... smooth and easy every time... Alphas, Cybershots, Handycams...never a problem if I followed the directions , which sometimes have some quirky steps. I find I leave the directions up after downloading the updates so I can go down the list of steps, and I'm a "who needs stinkin' directions" kinda guy!

Maybe a bad cable or connection? I seem to recall Sony strongly suggested using the USB cable included with the camera, and I know I've got so many USB cables running around I don't know what came with what! And there are USB cables that will "fit" at the ends, but are wired differently...

Just a thought, could be completely wrong, but thought I'd mention it.

Thanks, I made sure I used the cable supplied with the camera. Have downloaded 4 versions including one from Singapore ( i live inThailand). not sure what Paul meant when he said ' make sure the version is for your region'

Mike Griffiths
November 26th, 2014, 12:19 AM
Another other need is to connect to mains power for upgrading most of the Sony camcorders and they can tell whether power is mains or battery. At least my NX5U and FDR-AX1need to be on mains powerto updte nd they can tell if it is not.
Ron Evans
Thanks,
Tried that too, still no luck I'm on an iMac, I'll try on my wife's Win7 to see if that works

Mike Griffiths
November 26th, 2014, 01:58 AM
I had a similar experience on one Windoze box but it had a utility called 'USB Safely Remove' in place of the normal Windows safely remove icon. No way would this PC upgrade the X70. Moved to a another Win 7 box that was running the normal Win USB safely remove icon and hey presto it upgraded without an issue. Go figure!

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Wow! plugged in my wife's sony Vaio win 7 and bingo first time!!! There seems to be a problem with the Mac version, don't know if anyone else had the same problem. I confirm using cables other than the supplied Sony one is not a good idea!

Christopher Young
November 26th, 2014, 06:44 AM
Glad you got it sorted Mike.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Ray Paula
November 27th, 2014, 01:51 PM
Just purchased the PXW-X70........How do you do the update? Anyone have instructions. Thanks, Ray

Mark Watson
November 27th, 2014, 03:38 PM
It's all in the download.

https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/SoftwareFreeDownload.aspx

Ray Paula
November 27th, 2014, 05:24 PM
Awesome....... Thanks for the links! Exactly what I needed.....Thanks again, Ray