Here is a link for sample footage by Alister Chapman


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Here is a link for sample footage by Alister Chapman


thank you!

I have extensively tested the FS7 under all the gamma settings and color profiles with a speed booster and the Canon 24-105. I tested both in low light and standard average room lighting. There is red chroma noise in all modes and settings. This also included a custom profile where i decreased the red gain. This is the same problem that is evident in Doug Jensen's video. The only difference might be the lense he used, he also mentioned that he didn't adjust anything under the custom menu. I can tell you that i exhausted every mode. This is diffidently a Show Stopper for me.

Sony PXW-FS7 Test Footage at Veterans Day Parade - GRADED VERSION on Vimeo

Sony PXW-FS7 Test Footage at Veterans Day Parade on Vimeo

The FS7 is a powerful and amazing camera, this issue should be addressed soon. BTW, i purchased the camera already and the paint menus are superb. The Sgamut/Slog 3 Matrix settings are disabled, hopefully the firmware update is coming up soon. Other than that, it is an excellent Cinecam/TV Cam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfUJA30xze4&feature=youtu.be

I have extensively tested the FS7 under all the gamma settings and color profiles with a speed booster and the Canon 24-105. I tested both in low light and standard average room lighting. There is red chroma noise in all modes and settings. This also included a custom profile where i decreased the red gain. This is the same problem that is evident in Doug Jensen's video. The only difference might be the lense he used, he also mentioned that he didn't adjust anything under the custom menu. I can tell you that i exhausted every mode. This is diffidently a Show Stopper for me.


PLEASE STOP MISQUOTING ME ON DIFFERENT FORUMS.

My video does not show that. Sorry, but you are making incorrect satements about my video.

1) There is no problem with red chroma noise in the parade video. The problem with the reds is that they are oversatured and have a magenta shift. But there's no noise problem. If you are having an issue with noise, you've got a different problem.

2) The parade video WAS shot with a custom scene file. Unfortunately it was the combination of settings I had programmed that did not work well together on a real-world shoot instead of charts. It was my own fault and I have since corrected the problem with a new scene file that looks great. Also, I've been able to do a regrade of the parade footage in Resolve and it looks almost perfect and completely salvagable. I'll see if I can post a new version in a week or two.

The video of the boys on the couch has a lot more problems that just with the reds. You better reset the camera and start over again from scratch.
If someone can't get good results with the FS7, they are doing something wrong. It is as simple as that. The camera is solid when the right menu settings, exposure, and WB are used.

Hi Doug, THE CAPITALS are not necessary. Anyways, your test showed similar things to what i found out. It was more than just a magenta shift.

I found a work around with a custom recipe, and i did mention the camera is AMAZING, so i did not say to everyone to stay away. It is more of a heads up in case someone does face the same problem.

Nothing to do with exposure either, this was lit with small video light from the front left side.

PLEASE STOP MISQUOTING ME ON DIFFERENT FORUMS.

My video does not show that. Sorry, but you are making incorrect satements about my video.

1) There is no problem with red chroma noise in the parade video. The problem with the reds is that they are oversatured and have a magenta shift. But there's no noise problem. If you are having an issue with noise, you've got a different problem.

2) The parade video WAS shot with a custom scene file. Unfortunately it was the combination of settings I had programmed that did not work well together on a real-world shoot instead of charts. It was my own fault and I have since corrected the problem with a new scene file that looks great. Also, I've been able to do a regrade of the parade footage in Resolve and it looks almost perfect and completely salvagable. I'll see if I can post a new version in a week or two.

The video of the boys on the couch has a lot more problems that just with the reds. You better reset the camera and start over again from scratch.
If someone can't get good results with the FS7, they are doing something wrong. It is as simple as that. The camera is solid when the right menu settings, exposure, and WB are used.

Doug - I'm looking forward to your upcoming Field Guide/DVD on the FS7 that you indicate is coming out in January (middle to end of the month?).

Until then do you have any "recipes" for the Custom shooting mode for those of us who will get their cameras before your DVD is released?

How much detail will you be going into with regard to the CINE mode in your upcong guide?

"The problem with the reds is that they are oversatured and have a magenta shift."

Very much like a few other Sony models. Especilly that magenta hue in the reds which I hate and have dialled out as much as possible on FS700s , the A7s, and the X70. It would be good to see another corrected clip if you get a chance to upload one.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

"The problem with the reds is that they are oversatured and have a magenta shift."

Very much like a few other Sony models. Especilly that magenta hue in the reds which I hate and have dialled out as much as possible on FS700s , the A7s, and the X70. It would be good to see another corrected clip if you get a chance to upload one.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Hi Christopher, these are adjustable under custom settings with the red channel. There are also the Hypergamma and standard modes that can be extensively dialed. I fixed the problem i was having through a custom settings. The FS7 is truly amazing.

Doug - I'm looking forward to your upcoming Field Guide/DVD on the FS7 that you indicate is coming out in January (middle to end of the month?).

Until then do you have any "recipes" for the Custom shooting mode for those of us who will get their cameras before your DVD is released?

How much detail will you be going into with regard to the CINE mode in your upcong guide?

Hi Barry,

I'll be going into quite a bit of detail and specific settings and workflows for both the Cine EI mode and the Custom Mode. They both serve different purposes and it's important to know how to work competently on either side.

Thanks for asking.

Is it safe to say that the 28mm end of the 28-135 kit lens is not wide enough for a run-and-gun lens?

Hi Barry,

I'll be going into quite a bit of detail and specific settings and workflows for both the Cine EI mode and the Custom Mode. They both serve different purposes and it's important to know how to work competently on either side.

Thanks for asking.

Thanks for the info, Doug.

As far as timeframe - late January, early February a realistic estimate?

I hope so. I am working on it full time, but it takes 7-8 weeks of work to research, test, write, shoot, edit, etc. such an indepth 4-hour video. Plus, I got hired to come to Africa this week to teach 6 days of camera/lighting classes and so I had to take time off from the FS7 project. Too interesting to pass up! But end of January is my goal.

Have a great trip and be safe!

Jim Martin
EVSonline.com

Is it safe to say that the 28mm end of the 28-135 kit lens is not wide enough for a run-and-gun lens?

That is the thought of myself and others.

The Canon 24-70mm is not wide enough for a do-all R&G zoom. You end up having to dance between the 16-35mm and the 24-70mm. About the only "do-all" R & G zoom for S35 is the Canon 17-120 servo zoom. Or B4 zooms with an adapter. Even the lovely 19-90mm Fujionon Cabrio is a bit short on the long end.

R&G Zoom options with major shortcomings are the Canon 24-105 f/4 with speed booster Ultra or the Sony 18-105mm f/4 E mount. The Sony 18-105mm just isn't designed for manual focusing, in my experience. The Canon 24-105 has all the drawbacks of EF glass- no focus end stop ( more like a focus-end yield ), no manual iris, short focus throw, telescoping lens barrel, etc.

I think lens choice is an important subject for most people looking at this camera, for (hate the term) R&G shooting.

When I owned the F55 I used the Dulcos 11-16 for the super wide shots, the lens is great for the price. Then most of my standard shooting that is 98% on the shoulder I used the Red 17-50, a light weight, sharp, and full manual lens.

The thing with the F55, which I would love to see updated firmware for the FS7 is "Center Crop Mode". That essentially made the 50mm a 100mm for FOV. So I had 17-100 and it was great for the cost.

With the FS7 I will still use Dulcos 11-16, and the Red 17-50 since you cannot beat the cost vs. performance and both are full manual, a must for me. Then I will use the 28-135 Sony when I need the stabilized lens and am not right on my subject.

This seems for me to be a simple lens combination and lets me shoot 1080-4K. Plus a light 11-135mm lens combo that is easy to travel with on all size planes.

Would I prefer the Canon 17-120? Of course but not for the price.

Is it safe to say that the 28mm end of the 28-135 kit lens is not wide enough for a run-and-gun lens?
definitely not, on S35 it's like 40mm , not wide at all

Oh how times have changed... I think when I started shooting you couldn't get a camera with a zoom wider than 30mm.

Yup, I remember Dylan 35mm was wide I only had 50mm an was happy. Now I love 11mm, how 45 years can change things.

Sony FS7 BODY IN STOCK AT BHPHOTO WITH METABONES REBATE.


Sony PXW-FS7 XDCAM Super 35 Camera System PXW-FS7 B&H Photo

You better have a monster of a computer to watch this in 4K (kick it up to 4K on youtube and let it load first) Pouring Rain shot off my balcony at night with the Sony FS7. The subtle details are amazing to me.

http://youtu.be/26-7Gf1jscI

I killed this thread :(

Would it be a total travesty to use this camera in XAVC-L mode at 25/35/50? I do mostly corporate work, and trying to archive stuff shot at 111mpbs would kill me.

Mike, not at all. When I owned a F55 85% of the time I shot XAVC HD and was very pleased with the results for the same reason.

Would it be a total travesty to use this camera in XAVC-L mode at 25/35/50? I do mostly corporate work, and trying to archive stuff shot at 111mpbs would kill me.

Absolutely not. The best part about this camera is that it is flexible enough to use on so many different types of jobs.

This topic has been "dead" since December 24.

Has anyone else gotten their FS7K's in yet? I received mine yesterday (should have been Dec 31 but there was a mixup on shipping speed).

So far everything seems to be working well - V 1.10 firmware had already been installed. The kit lens is really good albeit HUGE. It looks as though I will be shooting shoulder mount. I haven't really noticed the camera listing to the left as others have mentioned - I only have to put mild pressure on the handgrip.

I have a Sigma 18-35 with the Sony LAEA 4 adaptor as a second lens and it really does well in low light. The iris wheel seems to be very responsive with really no lag.

Are the clips on the handgrip arm to secure the coiled handgrip cable new or were they on the first FS7's shipped?

I also note that I'm getting 53 minutes per XQD 128 G series card shooting in XAVC-I QFHD @ 29.97P which was a pleasant surprise since they mentioned 44 minutes in the original specs.

I'm looking to buy a FS7 in the next week or so. I'm a bit surprised Sony don't include a QXD card (even a small one!) with the camera.

Agree on the cards. At least a 32gb could have been included.
On the other hand I hardly ever used my 8gb card that came with my EX-3.
I received my camera 2 days ago as well. Xmas delayed the process a bit. .
I didn't get the lens yet, so I'm using a meta bones Ultra.
Have to say my Canon 24-70 f2.8 suits the camera well. Footage looks good, but have only played a bit at home. I have to say the menu system is a mess. Not the layout, but what can be on or off to be able to have LUTs on in the viewfinder etc. Took me many hours to figure out that lens compensation can't be set to AUTO if you want to enable LUTs in the viewfinder.
Loving the form factor, wish I could afford a Cabrio or Canon 17-120 so i didn't need the hand grip.

I didn't use the 8gig much either with my EX1 but it got me started!

I'm picking my FS7 up on Wednesday. I'll be using it with a 18-35 Sigma 1.8 and Metabones adapter to begin with. Unfortunately the supplier has no XQD cards so trying to get one elsewhere.

LUTS will be a learning curve for me. Havent used them before

Anyone tried the Sony SELP18105G lens with the FS7 or have any thoughts on how it might go?

..... I'll be using it with a 18-35 Sigma 1.8 .....
I'm looking forward to hearing if that lens covers the Super 35 sensor without any vignetting.

Any Lens recommendation ( 28 to 135-200mm ) for this Camera with or without adaptor with power zoom, auto iris, Full Frame, 4K resolution, other than the FS7K kit lens, that can open up to 2.8 iris, under $3000.

Rajiv

You are asking for to much!

Anyone tried the Sony SELP18105G lens with the FS7 or have any thoughts on how it might go?

I'm looking forward to hearing if that lens covers the Super 35 sensor without any vignetting.
I'm using it on a FS-100 with no vignetting. I don't understand why they insist on not having mechanical focus and zoom, but if you can get used to it, it's a good lens. If it had mechanical focus and zoom, it would be the perfect all-around lens.

Hi Mike,

I've gone ahead and ordered the SELP18105G. By all accounts it sounds like a pretty good 'bang for buck' lens until Im in a position to buy the 28135 down the track.

I really like the Sigma 18-35 so will be keen to see how it goes with FS7 using a metabones adapter.

Picking up the FS7 tomorrow! My trusty EX1 can enjoy a well earnt semi-retirement as my B cam :-)

Picked up my new FS7. Very different beast to the EX1!

Ive unscrewed one of the cable supports on the remote arm so I can get it on a tripod without having to take the thing off.

As a fairly tall guy I cant see myself shoulder mounting the FS7. I will be pushing it into my chest like I do with other camera's. The remote arm will still be a great help though.

18105G lens and metabones adapter for my 1835 here tomorrow. Looking forward to getting to know this cam well!

It is too bad that the new power zoom (Sony FE PZ 28-135mm f/4 G OSS Lens) has that darn crop factor. Not wide enough for general ENG or EFP especially in tight spaces, it seems like a good idea to stick with 1/2' for such purposes.