View Full Version : Atomos Announces "Shogun" 4k recorder
Cliff Totten April 6th, 2014, 09:47 PM Right on time Atomos!
Announcing Atomos Shogun – first 4K HDMI recorder compatible with Sony A7S | EOSHD.com (http://www.eoshd.com/content/12540/announcing-atomos-shogun-first-4k-hdmi-recorder-compatible-sony-a7s)
Looks like the GH4 and A7s have a new recorder. I'm surprised that the A7r has no onboard 4K codec enabled.
Better for Atomos!
CT
Ken Ross April 6th, 2014, 10:11 PM But the big difference is that the A7s must have the external recorder to record 4K and the GH4 doesn't.
So you're looking at a price of around $4,000 before lenses for the Sony vs $1,699 for the GH4. That's pretty significant.
Or you can have an AX100 for $2,000 complete and be done. That's looking better and better. Of course we know each system has its virtues and drawbacks. :)
Cliff Totten April 6th, 2014, 10:47 PM I have some "pre-NAB" anxiety for the last two weeks since I have purchased my AX100.
I kept second guessing my decision. After the Sony press conference, I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief.
I'm now at peace with my AX100. I'm really happy I got it and I'm done spending on cameras for the year. In 2015 I'll budget myself about $6,000 for a more serious 4K camera. But for now?...I'm taking the AX100 and shooting the Vegas strip on Monday and Tuesday night. (my first "serious" 4k demo...maybe super 35mm FS 200?)
I'll bet this A7s and the "Shogun" will be a great combo!
CT
Betsy Moore April 6th, 2014, 11:36 PM I love my Ninja 2, don't get me wrong but I despise having to use a tascam to channel external audio (2 lav mics) into the Ninja for my one man band efforts. It's so ridiculously bulky and you have to initiate a cumbersome launch sequence rather than push one nice easy record button. Any idea whether the Shogun will remedy this?
Derek McCabe April 6th, 2014, 11:55 PM "4K ProRes onto single SSDs"... (8-bit from the Sony)
"On the GH4 this will be a 10bit output to a 10bit ProRes file."
...just another reason to use a Mac workflow
Phil Lee April 7th, 2014, 10:14 AM Hi
Do we know if this supports HDMI 2.0 so future proofed, i.e. can record 50/60fps?
Regards
Phil
Eric Stemen April 7th, 2014, 10:24 AM "4K ProRes onto single SSDs"... (8-bit from the Sony)
"On the GH4 this will be a 10bit output to a 10bit ProRes file."
...just another reason to use a Mac workflow
Windows based machines have no problem reading ProRes.
Derek McCabe April 7th, 2014, 12:15 PM sounds like ProRes envy to me... no one is forcing you to use Final Cut Pro, but I thought it was obvious that a ProRes workflow means working on Mac. By the way, my Mac runs Windows.
Andy Wilkinson April 7th, 2014, 01:04 PM This looks really great…
But as I've stated elsewhere I just want Atomos to fix the issues with the current crop of recorders (especially the Ninja Blade, which I own, and the older Ninja Samurai) regarding the 2 pixel black line on the r/h side with pull down. The firmware update we were promise last week is still vapour ware…Sure, it's a simple work around for now in CS6 (using 50i recorded on the NB and then converting to 25p in NLE)…but I still want it fixed. Please!
Mark Morreau April 7th, 2014, 02:50 PM sounds like ProRes envy to me... no one is forcing you to use Final Cut Pro, but I thought it was obvious that a ProRes workflow means working on Mac.
I'm afraid your assertion is out of date. You can edit ProRes natively on Windows - have been able to for several years, and now you can output it with the Miraizon DNxHD and ProRes Codec Components for $50.
DNxHD VC-3 ProRes Codecs Overview (http://www.miraizon.com/products/codecsoverview.html)
Eric Stemen April 7th, 2014, 04:59 PM Thanks for posting that link Mark! I'll have to buy the codec set before I start my next project.
Noa Put April 7th, 2014, 05:07 PM sounds like ProRes envy to me... no one is forcing you to use Final Cut Pro
Better not go there as it does not add anything constructive to this thread.
Dmitri Zigany April 7th, 2014, 09:48 PM I hope Atomos will be allowed by Sony to record 4K from the FS700. Would be a great option to the Odessey 7Q to be able to record 4K ProRes to Atomos' $99 2TB raided drives. Would be much more cost effective than the 7Q...
Ron Evans April 8th, 2014, 06:50 AM Does not mention if it can record 4K 50/60P HDMI 2.0 spec. That would be great.
Ron Evans
EDIT: Just checked and it will only do 24,25,30P for 3840x2160. Hope in the future it will do the full range.
Darren Levine April 8th, 2014, 10:46 AM just a tad too darn big... please atomos, just make a 4k blade
Paulo Teixeira April 10th, 2014, 08:43 AM Official information page : Shogun | Atomos (http://www.atomos.com/shogun/)
Here's a video of William of Atomos talking about the Shogun:
Atomos - 4K recorder Shogun and Ninja Star - YouTube
Evan Donn April 11th, 2014, 11:02 AM I love my Ninja 2, don't get me wrong but I despise having to use a tascam to channel external audio (2 lav mics) into the Ninja for my one man band efforts. It's so ridiculously bulky and you have to initiate a cumbersome launch sequence rather than push one nice easy record button. Any idea whether the Shogun will remedy this?
I didn't ask the booth reps for details, but on the shogun banner it listed XLR input as one of the features, presumably via a breakout cable as it's too thin for on-board connectors.
Paulo Teixeira December 22nd, 2014, 06:32 PM Atomos Shogun review
Atomos Shogun meets Sony A7S in 4k & GH4 get 10bit 4:2:2 and more... on Vimeo
Atomos Shogun used with the Sony A7S to record 4K.
Atomos Shogun meets Sony A7S..best of...in 4k UHD - YouTube
I saw these posted on Personal-View.com and I thought I'd post them here.
The Atomos Shogun along with the GH4 or A7S is definitely a lethal combination.
Jim Martin December 23rd, 2014, 10:18 AM We're supposed to get our first shipment today so if you are looking to pick one up, give us a ring here at 818-552-4590.....they should be available after 12pm today!
Jim Martin
EVSonline.com
Michael Stevenson December 23rd, 2014, 09:38 PM From B & H Photo:
Dear MICHAEL STEVENSON,
We are pleased to inform you that the following order has been shipped:
SQCE1999N3A 3 Year Drops & Spills Warranty
ATB2600 ATOMBAT001 Battery
SASDSSDXP240 Extreme II Internal SSD (240GB)
ATSG Shogun 4K HDMI/12G-SDI Recorder and 7" Monitor
ATOMCAL001 Spyder Color Calibration Unit
Will be here Next Monday. I am very happy.
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