View Full Version : Intro to HDV for DV users?


Shawn McBee
October 4th, 2005, 09:26 PM
Hi all,

I am just getting ready to purchase the GY-HD100U and I was wondering if any of you more experienced HD / HDV users can give myself and any other DV users tips on what new information and/or skills we'll need to develop in order to operate effectively in an HD / HDV environment. Specifically, in my case, for narrative work.

Thanks in advance,

-Shawn McBee

Douglas Spotted Eagle
October 4th, 2005, 09:54 PM
Shawn, you might want to check out http://vasst.com/?v=touragenda/I_want_my_hdv.htm

Even though the free evening is funded by Sony, the second day is straight HDV. No real Sony or JVC or Canon lean, it's just about HDV production, featuring myself, Heath McKnight from here at DVInfo.net, and others.

Shawn McBee
October 4th, 2005, 10:44 PM
That sounds great, Douglas. I'll probably be at the Ft. Lauterdale event in December!

Steven White
October 5th, 2005, 10:12 AM
1. FOCUS.

Easily the biggest difference between DV and HDV is the focussing requirements.

2. Don't stop down too far.

Due to the 1/3" chips, all our cheepo HDV camcorders are diffraction limited at higher f-stops.

- add camera shake in post if you want it... stabilize if you don't
- use lighting, filters, etc. creatively to maximize the apparant dynamic range of the images

-Steve

Heath McKnight
October 5th, 2005, 12:33 PM
Read this book, too (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0976238012/qid=1128537170/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-3446726-0075963?v=glance&s=books&n=507846). Chock full of info.

heath

Kevin Shaw
October 5th, 2005, 10:17 PM
Easily the biggest difference between DV and HDV is the focussing requirements.

For me one of the biggest differences between DV and HDV has been learning how to deal with widescreen versus 4:3 format issues, both during editing and output. Of course if you've been doing widescreen DV that wouldn't be a problem, but otherwise it's a significant change.

Shawn McBee
October 6th, 2005, 03:52 AM
Thanks so much for all the input so far. Of course, The more info the better!

Christopher C. Murphy
October 6th, 2005, 01:40 PM
Hey Shawn,

I've been going back and forth using HDV and DV cameras for a long while now. The differences are small, but those small differences make a huge difference later in the edit room.

I just did a corporate gig today using an X1L - the camera seems light years behind my Z1U in picture quality and ease of use. Ok, light years is a bit much! But, it just didn't feel right using it...I was forced to of course. I did a corporate gig last month where I used my Z1U and it was a little softer than a JVC large shoulder mount. That's something to note.

Pan with action and if it's fast action...up the shutter speed a little to compensate. Also, add more light if possible...you could add gain instead or open your iris of course. It just needs more light anyway you slice it.

Buy and stick with decent tape stock - minimum I get is Sony Premium and haven't had any problems. However, people have said that dropouts are possible because of the nature of the mechanics with HDV...play it safe if you are shooting something important.