Hey Guys, just curious how do you all deliver the finished product? I'm looking for some more ideas as I can't seem to find any more CD/DVD tins online from Australia. Any ideas/feedback would be appreciated!

Here's the final product I usually deliver.
http://i.imgur.com/jV61x3m.jpg

Hi David

Do a search on the wedding forum here and you will find plenty of threads and examples of what people use

Chris

Here's the final product I usually deliver.
http://i.imgur.com/jV61x3m.jpg

That looks nice David, I still am using plain and simple semi transpartant dvd boxes but looking at a way to get rid of designing the prints for these boxes, it costs me too much time and would prefer to just do the dvd print itself, can I ask which supplier makes these?

That looks nice David, I still am using plain and simple semi transpartant dvd boxes but looking at a way to get rid of designing the prints for these boxes, it costs me too much time and would prefer to just do the dvd print itself, can I ask which supplier makes these?

+1 I'd like to go to none designed / printed sleeves too....

I still feel like mine needs a little more - like a presentation box or something with pink shredded tissue paper or something!

+1 I'd like to go to none designed / printed sleeves too....

It was actually pretty difficult to find these tins as there are very few suppliers that I can find. Here's a link to the supplier that I bought them from. This is from the UK, they no longer have an Australia site where I originally purchased them from.

CD Slip Tin ( Square Tin) (http://www.rivieramultimedia.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=9264465)

I'm going to bulk order white or off-white fabric wrapped boxes with an "Our Wedding Day..." on the front and *maybe* our company name in tiny print on the back. That way I don't do anything to the box, just pop the DVD in. I think I can get them for $20-$25 each, but it looks so much better than my custom photo prints inserted into DVD boxes

Hmmm. I'm still doing just regular DVD cases that I buy in bulk. May need to upgrade to something a little nicer..

We're having custom boxes made up to hold USB sticks and disks in our wallets. Here is the 3d design. The disk is just for scale. Disk wallets go in that hole.

Danny,

Those look very nice. Who does this? I'd love to deliver in something like that!

Printed DVD disc inside a printed personalised Hollywood style DVD cover. Wow factor if possible! Ribbons and nice boxes are not for me! Plus see how much they pay and what package they choose. My last bride booked I want to give her a plain disc in a asda cover?? Ha

I use WHCC WHCC - White House Custom Colour (http://www.whcc.com/?gclid=CKvs7Kzm8bwCFTDxOgod5ywAtw)

DVD covers with custom covers etc are mind numbing and boring. Like yourselves i'm after a generic tin with 'our wedding day' but one that holds multiple discs. So I can either put one inside, or layer upto 2-3 additional copies on top.

Any idea where I can get them from?

DVD covers with custom covers etc are mind numbing and boring. Like yourselves i'm after a generic tin with 'our wedding day' but one that holds multiple discs. So I can either put one inside, or layer upto 2-3 additional copies on top.

Any idea where I can get them from?

Wedding DVD / CD Presentation Cases | Occasion Cases (http://www.occasioncases.co.uk)

I had a good old poke around at the alternatives at the SWPP trade show in London a couple of months ago. My overwhelming impression was that the various disc and stick boxes were sooooo cheesy and vomit-inducingly weddingy. Trying too hard and failing. Something a kid might make in a craft class having been told to make something wedding themed :- (

I also dislike the tins you can get for commercial movie DVDs when they are sold as special editions or collectors editions. Does anyone really think that its anything other than cheap to produce packaging to give the provider an in to justify charging more? maybe I'm in the market where clients call a spade a spade?

I'm sticking to regular single and double cases. There is a good selection at Riviera Multimedia in the UK. I like that I can customise the printed cover in Photoshop per customer - and I print them as and when on my Epson 4800 pigment ink printer. And I like that I can also customise each disc surface per customer. Who really wants some scrappy USB stick with the vendors name on it packaged in some tacky box :- )

There is also somewhat of a question mark over the reliability of USB sticks. Recently I've been reviewing lots of DVD still image backup discs many from around 10 years ago. I haven't had a single disc fail to read.

"The Photography Show" is on at the NEC Birmingham at the moment (used to be called "Focus on Imaging). This will have all the usual suspects offering their packaging if any UK members feel the need to take a look at the alternatives.

Pete

We went down the custom route as there just isn't anything to hold our disks. Graphi and the others do some amazing albums for photo albums which also hold a disk but none are willing to make a disk centric offering. The other downside is these boxes cost around £300 each.

Those which do offer disk packaging are as you say, pretty cheesy and wedding centric but also disk sized. The sheer thickness of our packaging will make it feel more valuable, even though its nothing but air. We are also betting on an all digital future so the design can handle disks and sticks.

I can't see why a USB stick will fail. The theory is they are likely to last longer than disks. All our flash media comes with a lifetime warranty (specified in the small print as 35 years). Were also hoping people opt for all digital distribution as it means no DVD menus to design and prepare :)

Only downside to custom boxes are they have a minimum order.

I can't see why a USB stick will fail. The theory is they are likely to last longer than disks. All our flash media comes with a lifetime warranty (specified in the small print as 35 years). Were also hoping people opt for all digital distribution as it means no DVD menus to design and prepare :)

Only downside to custom boxes are they have a minimum order.

A friend runs a mail order USB stick company. He says they get around 25% faulty in the first 12 months and the far east manufacturer doesn't care about getting them back, they just send more free replacements.

Another 30%-40% (his estimate) have failed within three years, though most people just throw them away and buy a new one. That becomes much harder to justify when it contains your wedding memories.

I really want USB sticks to be reliable and have longevity, but two of the three sticks I've bought in the last couple of years (all good name brands) are now faulty to the extent that they think they are write protected (no bad thing for photos / video I suppose) and are basically useless now.

I've also spoken to a couple of photographers at wedding fairs and I've been told they are having problems in the field too.

Sad and a little counter intuitive, but unfortunately true.

I don't know whether to think that the quality will increase in time or decrease further with constant price pressure. Who knows?

I can't see why a USB stick will fail. The theory is they are likely to last longer than disks.

I have had 3 failing usb sticks so far, 2 from Kingston and don't recall what brand the third was, they just stopped working, also have one that continues to say it needs to be formatted as soon as I plug it into my pc but formatting doesn't work and the error message keeps popping up.

Do you know which brand your usb sticks are? I need to get some for my clients this year and rather not skimp on quality, I always tell them to make a back up yet I still do get phones that they lost the digital files because their own usb power external harddrive stopped working (I get that a few times every year, those seem to be very unreliable.) which means they don't make backup copies.

Hi Noa, not sure about USB sticks, but I generally buy Sandisk for SD cards etc and have zero issues with them.

As per packaging I have found an alternative to the tins, they are pretty pricey compared to the tins though, at around 20AUD each. I have ordered one, will see how it goes.

USB sticks are a waste of time and money ... I have had one fail on me. Reputable brand PNY. When I first bought it, it was nice and quick at everything ... all of a sudden it became slower and slower and now it simply doesn't work.

After that experience I wouldn't bother providing weddings on a USB (not that I ever have anyway).

Stick to DVDs and Blurays. And may be the original EDITED digital files spread over multiple dual layer DVDs for them to back up on their PC's, Laptops etc.

I use these for high end clients.
I Nobili CD-DVD Presentation Case - Maple Nottingham UK (http://www.mapleframing.co.uk/acatalog/I_NOBILI_CD-DVD_Luxury_Presentaion_Case.html)

Regular amary DVD cases with printed inlay for regular clients.

I use WHCC WHCC - White House Custom Colour (http://www.whcc.com/?gclid=CKvs7Kzm8bwCFTDxOgod5ywAtw)

Tim,

Do you find couples choosing the various fabrics and materials?

I signed up with whcc last week.

Looks like a good set up for higher end packages.

Hey Guys, just curious how do you all deliver the finished product? I'm looking for some more ideas as I can't seem to find any more CD/DVD tins online from Australia. Any ideas/feedback would be appreciated!

Here's the final product I usually deliver.
http://i.imgur.com/jV61x3m.jpg


Wow that looks like a nice case!
How much does that cost if we buy in bulk and print then ?

On Friday I made up 100 hand styled DVD cases for my clients this year with a quotation magnet gift.

100 Blank white digipaks £45
Glue £1
100 Felt scallops £15
A4 sheets of round Kraft stickers £6
A4 sheets of rectangle Kraft stickers £3
Heavy Kraft Card A4 sheets £5.50
100 Self-adhesive magnets £3.60

Total: £79.10

Cost per Case - £0.79

looks very nice!

Wheredid you buy the case from ?

CD Digi Packs, DVD Digi Packs, CD Digipak, DVD Digipak, Black Digi Pack and White Digi Pack, 4 Panel Digipack from Wholesale Media for Trade Prices (http://www.wholesale-media.com/acatalog/Digi_Pack.html)

But tell me one thing.

How many of your customers really ask for a DVD anymore ?

Since last 2 years, 100% of my clients have discarded DVDs and they only ask for Blu-Ray.

I really hate DVD.

But tell me one thing.

How many of your customers really ask for a DVD anymore ?

Since last 2 years, 100% of my clients have discarded DVDs and they only ask for Blu-Ray.

I really hate DVD.

Right now, for weddings? Around here 100% want DVD. They may also want Blu-ray and digital download, but 100% want that DVD because that's all granny can play.

How do you manage to write the DVD while your footages are widescreen 1080p ?


What I do is,
Finish my premiere pro editing, export as h264 YouTube FullHD 1080p or else Custom 1080p.

Then I get the mp4 file.

I take it to encore and burn the DVD.

But the video looks horrible on the DVD. Totally distorted.

While the same on Blu-Ray looks stunning.

Have to agree - blu ray is a bit of a flop here in the UK. Nobody really watches blu-ray (that I know), nor do clients ask for it.

Besides - on sub 40" tvs at 3/4 metres there is very little difference in watching 720

The client really watch so low quality ?

DVDs are 4:3 and they look so bad, when you try to show a 16:9 1080p video on a DVD, which downgrades it to almost 360p or 480p at 4:3 :(

The client really watch so low quality ?

DVDs are 4:3 and they look so bad, when you try to show a 16:9 1080p video on a DVD, which downgrades it to almost 360p or 480p at 4:3 :(

We only ever ship 16:9 DVDs and they are full screen, not downgraded. You need to be exporting 16:9 DVDs with the correct pixel aspect ratio, otherwise yes, they will be letter boxed (bad idea).

If all your DVDs are playing in 4:3 (including hollywood DVDs) then you have your player/TV set incorrectly.

Does the content of your films trump the resolution or is the resolution what makes them watch? How soon will you move to 4K and leave all those old Blu-ray players behind?

While most people who are used to Blu-ray on huge TVs will cringe at a DVD for the first minute or two, if your content is engaging enough then the quality aspect soon disappears and they are watching the film not the pixels.

Would we all prefer to ship Blu-ray? Absolutely! But in the end, you have to sell what the customer wants to buy. You can only educate so far, but if Granny doesn't want a Blu-ray player and she's quite happy with DVD then who are we to argue?

Like David, 100% of my customers request DVD, with the occasional additional bluray or usb. I edit in Magix Movie Edit Pro 6 in HD, then output the dvd directly from the timeline. The same edit and timeline is used for bluray and mp4 on usb.

Roger

We only ever ship 16:9 DVDs and they are full screen, not downgraded. You need to be exporting 16:9 DVDs with the correct pixel aspect ratio, otherwise yes, they will be letter boxed (bad idea).

If all your DVDs are playing in 4:3 (including hollywood DVDs) then you have your player/TV set incorrectly.

Does the content of your films trump the resolution or is the resolution what makes them watch? How soon will you move to 4K and leave all those old Blu-ray players behind?

While most people who are used to Blu-ray on huge TVs will cringe at a DVD for the first minute or two, if your content is engaging enough then the quality aspect soon disappears and they are watching the film not the pixels.

Would we all prefer to ship Blu-ray? Absolutely! But in the end, you have to sell what the customer wants to buy. You can only educate so far, but if Granny doesn't want a Blu-ray player and she's quite happy with DVD then who are we to argue?


Whats your workflow ?
Lets say, I finish my project on Premiere Pro, then whats next ?

How do you manage to write the DVD while your footages are widescreen 1080p ?


What I do is,
Finish my premiere pro editing, export as h264 YouTube FullHD 1080p or else Custom 1080p.

Then I get the mp4 file.

I take it to encore and burn the DVD.

But the video looks horrible on the DVD. Totally distorted.

While the same on Blu-Ray looks stunning.

No wonder your DVDs look like crap. h264 YouTube FullHD 1080p is only about 5-7Mbps if you are then converting to DVD it will be awful.

My workflow is to export from Premiere Pro at the proper Blu-ray bit rate of 25-30Mbps H.264 then import into Encore to author the Blu-ray & then switch the project to DVD & let Encore convert to DVD 7-8Mbps MPEG2. Encore does a decent enough job of downscaling to DVD.

Whats your workflow ?
Lets say, I finish my project on Premiere Pro, then whats next ?

Export to a proper DVD MPEG2 setting at (say) 7-8mbit - wide screen setting. Also, don't forget to add a crop (in media encoder) top and bottom equalling 26 pixels total (12 top 14 bottom etc) to correct for the marginal difference in aspect ratio between HD and DVD.

Once you have your TWO files (one is video the other is audio) then import these to Encore as an asset and go from there.

Sorry to be a pain guys, but this is slightly off topic




... and my lovely pictures are now in the distant past of page 2!

Such is life on internet forums!

Sorry Clive.... it's easy to get off topic when someone asks a question. Almost all forums need a 'fork to new subject' button.

I previously posted a 3d render of our boxes and now they are here. And they are glorious.

And before anyone asks, I will not tell you where we got them made. We give away a lot already and some things we just need to keep back ;)

Show off! ha, na they look brilliant Danny!

Feel though that you probably charge more than me (although I'm getting more pricey these days).

I have bookings this year who booked at a time when my price was £550 - and some who booked last minute when my prices were up to £1000. It doesn't feel right giving them all the same standard of product.

I work on all the edits the same regardless of the agreed price, but I feel my physical product may not be up to the mark for my clients who agreed on my current price of £1000.

... current price of £1000.

A bit off topic again :) I wish I could charge Clive!

Hi Anthony! Nice to see a fellow countryman on here! Where are you based?

With regards to prices, since I started three years ago, fellow videographers and photographers kept telling me to put my prices up. Reluctantly I kept raising my prices, and there was no reduction in enquiries. I guess that's the test.

Luckily I still work another job (which I recently reduced to a four day week). This kinda gave me a safety net to test the waters with higher prices.

Thing is, you don't really decide your own price, the client does. The client currently seems happy enough that I'm a £1000 kind of videographer! lol

Hi Anthony! Nice to see a fellow countryman on here! Where are you based?


Hello Clive, Magherafelt direction, other end of the M2. I don't have a second job, so I kina need what I can get.
£1000 is what we need but getting it is a different story, as you say.
£660ish is the most I can get in these parts but that dosen't stop the tog from charging!
He can nearly charge what ever he wants :)