View Full Version : Which color grading app do you use with Premiere Pro CC ?


Soumendra Jena
November 6th, 2013, 06:21 PM
Hi, earlier we used to use Red Giant Looks with Premiere Pro , but Looks did not have any good presets for weddings.
What app of you guys use ?
Which app can offer the best number of wedding presets ?

Dave Partington
November 7th, 2013, 10:50 AM
Presets? What are those < grin > We've never used presets - preferring to get the shots coloured how we want and not how the presets go.

We've tried using Premiere pro's built in crap (sorry, 3 way) and it's err. crap.

We ended up using Colorista II but it takes forever to render.

If you're on CC I don't see why you wouldn't now have a full round trip colour workflow with SpeedGrade. Take the time to learn it - it should do everything you want to do and a whole lot more. Oh, and you'll already own it.

Bruce Watson
November 7th, 2013, 10:53 AM
Oh, and you'll already own it.

Nope -- he'll just be renting it.

Dave Partington
November 7th, 2013, 11:01 AM
Ha ha! So true, which i why I'm still on CS6 and not on CC. I don't rent my cameras or computers. I ain't renting from Adobe. FCPX is now my go to app for editing.

Nigel Barker
November 7th, 2013, 12:08 PM
If you want pre-sets & have Premiere Pro CC then take a look at Lumetri Looks which are included right there in the PP interface under Effects (. There are some nice canned looks. I was editing a sequence today where the sun had been going in & out of the clouds. It looked lovely while the sun was out but a bit cold & grim when the sun went in. I just quickly dropped Warm Midtones onto all the cold looking clips to match them up.

Peter Rush
November 7th, 2013, 12:38 PM
How slow is it Dave? 40 weddings last year I can't afford longer render times than i already get - and my machine's a rocket!

I'm so far using Premiere's 3 way colour corrector - I only do minimal grading BTW but it requires no rendering (CS5.5)

Pete

Dave Partington
November 7th, 2013, 12:49 PM
How slow is it Dave? 40 weddings last year I can't afford longer render times than i already get - and my machine's a rocket!

I'm so far using Premiere's 3 way colour corrector - I only do minimal grading BTW but it requires no rendering (CS5.5)

Pete

Well you can forget real time rendering for a start! Take a full ceremony for instance, I've had colorista II slow the export down from 40 mins with just PP to almost 5 hours with colorista II applied.

The same timeline exports from FCPX with lots (and I mean lots) of colour and vignettes etc in about 15-20 mins.

Oh, and that's with an 8 core xeon plugging away. An i7 was no faster. Cuda card makes no difference either since non of their stuff is GPU accelerated.

Steve Bleasdale
November 7th, 2013, 02:23 PM
Forget grading apps just get the focus, the story, the colours right and oh film the lot or else...Just use a little saturation, get the blacks whites right and white balance, then use a little contrast and brights done...

Soumendra Jena
November 29th, 2013, 08:59 PM
Lumetri looks very limited.

Looks in comparison has lots of effects to choose from and adjust the settings. Its awesome.

Dave Partington
November 30th, 2013, 05:48 AM
Lumetri looks very limited.

Looks in comparison has lots of effects to choose from and adjust the settings. Its awesome.

If all you want is pre-defined looks because you don't want / can't be bothered to learn a full colouring app then perhaps you're right.

OTOH, thoroughly learning a grading app means you can make as many looks at you want, and they're all exactly as you want instead of just almost maybe nearly right.

Personally, I never use predefined looks.