View Full Version : Yeah, they SAY Live Type was integrated into Motion 4. . .


Josh Bass
September 6th, 2013, 01:47 PM
But, is it really?

I like a fool had to go get a relatively new Imac that only came with Mountain Lion and therefore instantly obsoleterated (Webster's inclusion pending) my FCS 2 suite that had Livetype. I got FCS3 with Motion 4 and no LiveType.

I'm not real familiar with LT but it seems pretty cool for lower thirds and the like. Watched a few tutorials about making those in Motion and I see how it could work, but what happened to the heart of the the lower thirds in LT. . .the "objects" (i.e. backgrounds for text to go over) that were specifically meant for making them?

Did I forget to install something or is that stuff just gone?

Les Wilson
September 7th, 2013, 07:11 AM
Google this topic and you will find that you can install Livetype from your old FCS install discs. I just did a dirty install of Mountain Lion over my FCP 7 Snow Leopard install and it works fine.... Live type also works.

Dave Farrants
September 7th, 2013, 08:34 AM
Foxvideo Productions: Livetype, Lion and FCS3 (http://foxvidpro.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/livetype-lion-and-fcs3.html)

Josh Bass
September 7th, 2013, 03:33 PM
But the rest of the suite is no good with ML right? Please tell me I didn't waste a huge chunk of currency cabbage buying FCS3 unnecessarily.

Thanks for the tip.

While I was digging around for something else I found that those lower third type objects ARE hidden in motion. There are quite a few under Replicators. They're just not tagged in a way that you could search "lower third" or something. Maybe more in the content folder but that thing's huge so I didn't scroll through it all.

Dave Farrants
September 7th, 2013, 03:43 PM
Don't see why if you have FCS3. I run FCS3 with Livetype on 10.8.3 system (ML) with no problems. If the FCS3 is an upgrade you just need the FCP2 serial number, no need to install it, just install Livetype from the FCS2 disk as described in the blog post.

Josh Bass
September 7th, 2013, 03:58 PM
Right. I'm not sayin 3 isn't an improvement in many ways just wondering if it turns out FCP6 etc. worked on ML all along.

Les Wilson
September 7th, 2013, 07:06 PM
FCS 3 is a big improvement over FCS2 and it works fine on my ML. I didn't even do a clean install of ML. I just installed and migrated from Snow Leopard.

Josh Bass
September 7th, 2013, 10:12 PM
Think we may have a miscommunication. I was mostly wondering out loud if FCS2 would still work on ML even though it's not supposed to. I have FSC3 and have it installed and am using it so I know it's good to go. I was originally just bemoaning the loss of LIvetype as a separate app.

Les Wilson
September 8th, 2013, 06:22 AM
No. I expect FCS2 won't work on Lion or ML. You can however, extract LiveType from the FCS2 install disk and get it running on ML. The article referenced above explains how.

Josh Bass
September 8th, 2013, 06:35 AM
Thanks. I will take a look at that.

Andy Wilkinson
September 8th, 2013, 01:55 PM
No. I expect FCS2 won't work on Lion or ML.

Actually, just for the record, FCS2 seems to work fine on Mountain Lion - albeit I've not really use it much since installing it via the method detailed below - CS6 is so much faster - but at least I know FCS2 is still there if I need to open any legacy projects!

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/final-cut-suite/517793-how-install-fcs-2-mac-pro-running-mountain-lion.html

Les Wilson
September 8th, 2013, 04:18 PM
WOW. That's cool. FCS2 must have been a universal binary. I see the key is installing it on Snow Leopard and letting the OS X migration move the files around. The installer won't run but the App will. Good to know.

Josh Bass
October 28th, 2013, 07:17 PM
Hey guys. I kind of abandoned this thread 'cause I realized where all the lower thirds etc. were in motion (hidden among the various replicators/etc. ) Now I actually need to work on something that was done in Livetype and don't want to rebuild from scratch.

Wondering how the FCS2 discs labeled "Livetype Media 1"/2 fit into all this? I'm guessing that's more elements/graphics? Where would you put the contents of those DVDs? They're not mentioned in the linked article above.