shot something with my ex1r for a client, unfortunately they use final cut pro,and they cant play my mxf files on their timeline.not sure which version they have. so they want me to convert the mxf to prores. I edit on edius and although I have a lot of conversion options I don't see apple prores.
any idea how to do this. someone said something about a sony transfer utility ,not sure what this is

All they have to do is use Sony's Content Browser utility software to create a copy of the files during ingest that are rewrapped from MXF to MOV. This workflow does not transcode the files so it is very fast and does not affect the quality or size of the video files. Transcoding to ProRes is not necessary. BTW, this workflow has been in place since 2007 and is widely used by most FCP users.

Sony | Micro Site XDCAM (http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-xdcam/resource.downloads.bbsccms-assets-micro-xdcam-downloads-XDCAMSoftwareDownload.shtml#apps)

where do they get this sony content browser for their mac?

I gave you the link in my first post.
I'm surprised you aren't already using it on your PC. It really is an integral part of any XDCAM workflow.

doug, im using clip browser to transfer my files from my camera. should I be using content instead?
when I dl it, its asking for a serial number. not sure what number theyre talking about, its longer than the 6 digit serial number on my camera

ok, im using the 30 day trial since I have no idea what long serial number theyre talking about, not the same as my ex1r serial number.
anyway, in content browser, I have a long mxf file in a folder that I brought over through clip browser.
how do I convert this file into a .mov file. like I said client is edting on final cut. he wanted pro res.
not really seeing any instructions on how to convert

Content Browser replaced Clip Browser about two years ago, and everyone should migrate to the new program. But if the older software is working for you, I guess you can stay for the time being. Your choice.

Content Browser used to be free until a couple of months ago, now Sony might be charging for it in some circumstances. I don't agree with that business decision, but you'll have to check with Sony on how to get a serial number if you don't want to pay for it. It is not asking for the serial number from your camera.

YOU will never be able to convert the MXF files to MOV with the Sony software because you are on a PC. But your clients can do it easily enough with the Mac version of Content Browser since they also have FCP installed. In other words, you can't do it for them, they have to do that step themselves.

However, as I said before, they will NEVER be able to convert the MXF's directly to ProRes with any of the Sony software and not with FCP either. First they need to rewrap the files to MOV with Content Browser, and then they can either edit those XDCAM files natively in FCP ( recommended) or batch convert all the files to ProRes from within FCP. But in my opinion, that is a total waste of time and effort. They should try editing the native files first and not bother with ProRes because there is no benefit at all. All they'll get is bigger files sizes and wasted time rendering for their trouble.

If you need more info, it might be worth it to pay 5 bucks to watch this online tutorial which is an excerpt from my PMW-200 training DVD. Vortex Media: Pay-Per-View Videos (http://www.vortexmedia.com/STREAM_XDB.html)

A disturbing trend amongst small prod companies/clients that they are expecting the camera person to be doing post/editors work for them for nothing .. presumably they wanted the cheapness of the Ex1. rather than shoot with an Alexa and get pro res files direct from camera..
Ex1 is likely the most used camera on earth for professional/semi pro video..and the MXF files it produces.. FCP is also used by millions.. well maybe a few less these days :)

My point is.. this isn't even your problem.. you have done your job.. they might as well ask you to clean their cars too..

Robin, you are absolutely right. The XDCAM workflow is well-established and has been in place since 2007. Any professional production company ought to be familiar by now with the steps necessary to manage, ingest, and edit the footage for their particular NLE -- and if they aren't, it's their own job to get up to speed and learn it.

Doug, I really appreciate your comments.
On this job which I do a lot for the school it was a graduation. no way they would shoot that on an alexa
I found out he has Final Cut Pro X. (not express).
he cant seem to figure out the content browser, besides, the trial I found out has a watermark, but he didn't even get that far.

I hate to be so persistent, but is there a solution you can explain to me to give him the file he needs.
They should have gotten this out by now.

Robin thanks for your response as well. I don't mind helping them, I get a lot of work from them throughout the year. but this would have been a lot easier if they were editng on a pc. I use grass valley edius.no issues, and most of all no rendering of any kind, but getting off subject.
any input welcome.
keep in mind these mxf files I have have been off the card for months and I brought them into my system via clip browser.

Understand I know nothing about final cut/macs, so id appreciate an easy path to how to do this.i thought of checking out CNET to see if there are any free softwares to DL that will get the desired result.

Doug,
one more thing,
someone suggested I have them DL this from sony, 2.12, first one on page
https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/sony-software-model-PDZKP1.aspx

haven't looked at it to see if its same thing you sent me to dl.

Jim, I'm afraid I've given all the advice I can give you in this thread already and I would just be repeating the same stuff. Perhaps you should have the client read the information here themselves and maybe they'll be able to understand it better since they are the ones that actually use the Macs. And of course there is the video I suggested that explains the workflow in detail. If it ain't worth 5 bucks to your client for some training, then it sure isn't worth my time to keep saying the same thing over and over again.

You know, someone new to XDCAM and reading this thread might think the workflow is complicated and hard, but it is not. It is simple, elegant, and very fast when the proper steps are followed. But trying to buck the system or create workarounds for problems that don't really exist is where it falls apart real fast. Have them read the Sony manual for the FCP workflow -- it's all there.

Doug,
one more thing,
someone suggested I have them DL this from sony, 2.12, first one on page
https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/sony-software-model-PDZKP1.aspx

haven't looked at it to see if its same thing you sent me to dl.

If you feel that downloading software that Sony stopped supporting nearly three years ago is a good idea, give it a try. As I said before, Content Browser is what people who keep current with the software use today.

if that converts it, that's all I care about.
thanks for you help.
like I said content browser has a watermark

Content Browser v1.1
Sony Creative Software - Download: (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/contentbrowser1)

You can download this version (choose mac) without a serial number and it should work for you or your client. It is what I use for all my XDCAM work.

As Doug states, they do not need ProRes to edit XDCAM.

Also:
Final Cut Pro X: Importing Sony XAVC, XDCAM, XDCAM HD, and XDCAM EX media (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4724)
and you can find the plugin here:
Sony | Micro Site XDCAM (http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-xdcam/resource.downloads.bbsccms-assets-micro-xdcam-downloads-XDCAMSoftwareDownload.shtml#apps)

thanks for the info.
ill pass it on. not sure why he wont just let me give him mp4, it looks fine.

Doug, I really appreciate your comments.
On this job which I do a lot for the school it was a graduation. no way they would shoot that on an alexa
I found out he has Final Cut Pro X. (not express).
he cant seem to figure out the content browser, besides, the trial I found out has a watermark, but he didn't even get that far.

I hate to be so persistent, but is there a solution you can explain to me to give him the file he needs.
They should have gotten this out by now.

Robin thanks for your response as well. I don't mind helping them, I get a lot of work from them throughout the year. but this would have been a lot easier if they were editng on a pc. I use grass valley edius.no issues, and most of all no rendering of any kind, but getting off subject.
any input welcome.
keep in mind these mxf files I have have been off the card for months and I brought them into my system via clip browser.

Understand I know nothing about final cut/macs, so id appreciate an easy path to how to do this.i thought of checking out CNET to see if there are any free softwares to DL that will get the desired result.

Hi Jim

Thats my point .. only Alexa and I believe the new Black magic camera shoot pro res native (I could be wrong !) what have they been doing all these years ? how did they get pro res files from every camera person they used.. and on top of all that.. they dont even need them.. really something they need to sort out.. not you help them out with .. I could wash my car before i take it to the car wash to help them out cos they dont know how to operate their carwash machine.. but better they read up,or get a guy down there to show them..

There should be no problem inporting the XDCAM files into FCPX, I do it regularly simply by connecting the camera USB port to the Mac then clicking on the import button in FCPX and selecting the camera card; it's just the same as importing an AVCHD file. FCPX handles XDCAM files in their native format and there is no need to convert them to ProRes.

If necessary, you could copy/transfer the complete XDCAM folder to an external USB hard disk for subsequent transfer in the same manner.

the files have been off the cards for months. I did give him the mxf files and he transferred into his computer. they cannot be put on the timeline.
glad im editing on edius.i can every possible format available all on the timeline mixed together,no issue and the best part no rendering for anything.
anyway back to the issue. I told him I could give him the files as mp4s but he doesn't want them that way.
thanks for the input

OK, that's the problem. This sounds like it's just a local school, not some pro service, so he's not used to dealing with files from cameras other than the ones he uses.

Normally, once a free plugin from Sony is installed FCPX can import and edit them natively. And you can mix all kinds of formats in a "timeline" but...

The problem is that he can't import these files without the entire card folder structure. It you had given him the cards or just a backup of the entire card or a disk image of the card, everything would work flawlessly. Since you've given him JUST the mxf files he will have to convert them to some version of QuickTime to import them.

And, to my knowledge there is no free way to do that. There is the free MPEG Streamclip that converts many video formats, but I don't think it will work on these files. And, I would not want .mp4 files either because they will be lower quality due to the compression - although FCPX will import those just fine without the full card structure.

Clipwrap is a program that rewraps video to formats for FCP and FCPX, but I don't think it works with mxf, although there is a free trial...

A quick search online turned up several options for conversion like this:

Best Video Converter for Mac - Convert AVCHD MTS/M2TS, TOD, MOD to Apple ProRes, AIC for FCP/iMovie. Merge/Convert TIVO, MKV, ISO, EVO, MOV, MXF files (http://www.aunsoft.com/video-converter-mac/)

It's about $35 and also has a free trial, but I have no experience with it although it was recommended in an Apple support forum.

So, this is really nobody's fault. You were unaware of the Final Cut workflow requirement, and thus have given him files in a format that he cannot import without buying third party software. He's not a pro so has never had this problem crop up before. Probably the easiest thing at this point would be to put up with the slight image degradation of .mp4, unless he is willing to experiment with purchasing a converter or unless you have a full backup of the entire card with original footage.

This is all assuming I've understood the situation correctly. Hope this helps a bit..

thanks for the input.
I can convert the mxf to .mov files in my system,not sure it will look as good as mxf footge.
I may have him get that trial you found
thx

Edius is a great program, still better realtime performance than FCPX!

totally agree Geoff, ive been using canopus/edius since 99. I have an I7 processor and edius edits flawlessly.

the files have been off the cards for months. I did give him the mxf files and he transferred into his computer. they cannot be put on the timeline.

Therein lies the rub: DON'T go looking through file folders and selecting what you want with an XDCam workflow. Make a disk image of the entire card with the file structure intact. ANY other way of doing this is inviting disaster.