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Jeremy McKay
September 24th, 2013, 06:41 AM
I have noticed some CA (or CA like effect) down the beach on an overexposed image, at max zoom. It was most noticeable on the left/right edges of the shot.

I haven't shot too much to nail it down, but it initially had me rather disenchanted. On reviewing other clips from that day, it seems the over exposed shots caused it to appear. Needs more investigation me thinks.

Don Palomaki
September 24th, 2013, 11:28 AM
Was the ND enabled, or was it stopped down to f/8?

Lou Bruno
September 25th, 2013, 06:52 AM
I have the Canon HF G30 and I notice the vignetting in high contrast. I used the camera at an air show and noticed when a plane was fling against the bright sky, I observed the issue.

Lancaster Airport Air Show 2013 - YouTube

Bob Ohlemann
December 3rd, 2013, 05:01 PM
I didn't see a point in starting a new thread but, I wanted to give a quick update. I purchased a VariZoom Stealth from B&H and it arrived today.

VariZoom VZ-STEALTH Zoom Controller VZ-STEALTH B&H Photo Video


It works really nicely with the XA20. All functions on the controller work on the camera. The zoom control is super sweet! This is going to make my life so much easier the next time I shoot a four-day horse training clinic.

Bob

Alan Fitch
December 3rd, 2013, 06:43 PM
The Libec also works very well for zoom and record (no remote focus), and is currently on sale for under $83:
Libec Zoom Control for DV Cameras ZC-3DV B&H Photo Video

- Alan

Stephen Dey
December 4th, 2013, 06:15 AM
Like Alan, I also use use the Libec with my XA20 and have found it to be an invaluable add on - no problems at all.

With Bobs post it got me thinking as he stated he didn't want to start a new thread, might be a good idea if there was a thread along the lines of " useful third party add ons " for use with the XA20 / XA25 / G30 range of Canons - thinking about the more reasonably priced items such as remotes, lens. monitors, batteries, chargers etc. ( I know there is already a couple of threads regarding batteries )

Don Palomaki
December 4th, 2013, 06:50 AM
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xa-vixia-series-avchd-camcorders/519564-couple-interesting-accessories.html

Perhaps it should be renamed to Interesting Accessories?

Derek Craig
December 4th, 2013, 01:20 PM
I ended up buying the Libec a couple months ago to try. I already have a Varizoom ProL. I honestly like the Libec much better for my needs than the Varizoom. I never have liked the focus control on the Varizoom so I didn't use that feature much anyway. The Libec seems to get everything done for me in a much more compact package for my type of video work. Good units though ... both the Libec and the Varizoom. Both work well with my XA20.

Tim Hunt
December 4th, 2013, 11:44 PM
I am still using the same Manfrotto 522C Lanc controller and 3221WN tripod that I've had with my GL-1, XH-A1s, and now my XA20. Indoor/outdoors rain or shine it still controls my camera flawlessly. One of the best investments I've made. I also have had no problem with the Manfrotto MVR901ECLA controller I have on my 561 BHDV-1 monopod.

Mark Ahrens
December 7th, 2013, 08:33 AM
Question for you XA20 owners:

I'm looking to replace my PanasonicAC160a with a HF G30.
My main use for this kit would be sports and performances.

1) Do you think i will see a decrease in resolution or overall image going from 3 chip to 1?
2) Is it possible to record 30p AVCHD to one card and 60p Mpg to the other? (i'm assuming not)

AC160: 3x 1/3-type progressive 2.2 Mp CMOS -Prism color separation / 28-616mm 35mm
HF G30: 2.91 Megapixel 1/2.84" CMOS / 26.8 - 576mm

Thanks for your time and input.

J.T. Price
December 11th, 2013, 07:46 AM
After more than a month filming in New Zealand I can still attest that this is a fine camera (with one exception). The camera held up well through drizzle and light rain, against salt spray (five of the filming days were on boats), and in sandy conditions (although I am going to need to disassemble the hood to get some sand out of the mechanism that opens and closes the lens cover).

My one real, substantive, complaint (hopefully the only one but I have yet to review all of the hours of footage) is in the power management and boot time on this camera. I took four batteries with me but the *()^ poor charging design and time (needing to charge the battery on the camera) meant I could not keep all four batteries charged overnight. I missed two very good filming opportunities in waiting for the camera to boot up and then read the memory card. In many cases I just left it on so it would be ready to go but that really eats through the battery life. I was originally using large memory cards in order to not have to change so often. However, that ended up meaning that it took even longer for the camera to boot up and read the memory card so it was ready to film. In the future I think I will use many smaller cards, replaced daily rather than a few larger cards.

Don Palomaki
December 11th, 2013, 08:52 AM
Are you asking for an external charger and/or an external power pack?

J.T. Price
December 11th, 2013, 11:02 AM
External charger. I know that Canon is supposed to make an external charger and that aftermarket batteries and external chargers will be available but they were not in time for this shoot (at least in the UK). Still, the footage out of this camera is so much better than either my Panasonic or my XH-A1…..

Rainer Listing
December 11th, 2013, 05:09 PM
External chargers have been available for some time, I got mine a month ago in a package with a long life battery for around $50, just check EBay.

Bob Ohlemann
December 11th, 2013, 10:26 PM
I bought a Canon external battery charger when I bought the camera in August. I believe it is the same charger used with the XA-10. Though the batteries are not interchangeable, they use the same charger.

Bob

Neil Preston
December 16th, 2013, 03:56 AM
I hope I'm posting this in the right place. I'm having problems with connecting my XA20 to a Samsung tablet or smartphone. The active/alive state of the Wifi button at the bottom on the FUNC menu and the one at the bottom of the FUNC/MENU setting is very intermittant. To change them from greyed out to alive state requires repeatedly switching the cam on and off and waiting between each attempt sometimes for up to 10 mins. I have removed the ext mike handle and kept the antenna area free.

When the buttons do become active and after entering a password the tablet will recognise the cam but then give "out of range" or "failed authentication" messages. This is after making certain that the pw is correct and the cam and tablet are within 2 metres of each other.

If a connection is eventually achieved, the tablet screen will show the camera view but not register any changes of the cam view, nor will any buttons on the tablet affect the cams controls.

Am I missing a step somewhere here, or is this perhaps a hardware problem with the cam.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Don Palomaki
December 16th, 2013, 07:39 AM
I would suggest posting the WiFi question in a new thraed with an appropriate title. This is a long tread and the title may not attract folks with the experience you need.

Neil Preston
December 16th, 2013, 07:44 AM
Thanks Don, I will try that.

Alan Craven
February 9th, 2014, 02:26 AM
Early on in this thread (Post #17), J.T. Price queried whether the old 58 mm thread Century 2x converter would work with this new Canon. I can confirm that it works just fine. This will be the fourth generation of Canon with which I have been able to use this - XM1, XM2, HF-S30 being the predecessors.

Sie Callebs
February 20th, 2014, 08:47 AM
I see a review of the XA20 on the B&H web site in which the customer states that the exposure can't be adjusted while recording:

• Can't adjust the Iris while Recording and can't even Close the Iris, to be able to Close and Open the Iris while Recording in the absence of a Fader it is nice to simulate a Fader or to add some Black to the video.

Is this true, or is this guy misinformed? I have the HF-G10 and the exposure can be adjusted while recording (this is what I usually have my "custom" button set to, so I can adjust exposure with the dial instead of touchscreen). I can't imagine Canon would eliminate that feature in newer models.

Lou Bruno
February 20th, 2014, 08:56 AM
You can adjust the iris while recording using the front custom button. I do this all the time in conjunction with the Zebra stripes.

Anthony McErlean
February 20th, 2014, 09:13 AM
I see a review of the XA20 on the B&H web site in which the customer states that the exposure can't be adjusted while recording:

I don't have the XA20 but that can't be true.....I hope.

Paul Inglis
February 20th, 2014, 01:19 PM
Probably got Exposure Lock on.

Don Palomaki
February 20th, 2014, 05:17 PM
In manual mode, you can adjust iris (or shutter or gain) while recording with the front custom dial if you setup the dial to control exposure. See page 96 of the manual.

Rodger Smith
April 8th, 2014, 11:26 AM
I got to play with the XA20 today. Sweet camera. I'm going to like this over my HV30 and XH-A1…….]

just wondered where you got the vertical hot shoe as noted in this picture below? also, what mic is that?

IMG_20130803_140808_993_20130803143433012_zps47f74dfd.jpg Photo by decraig2000 | Photobucket (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/decraig2000/media/IMG_20130803_140808_993_20130803143433012_zps47f74dfd.jpg.html)

i only use mics with AA powering (only wanna stock one support battery for dslr's and video camcorders.

getting an xa20 this week or next. any thoughts as to when there might be an xa30 ?? and/or price ?

Don Palomaki
April 8th, 2014, 12:51 PM
If past history is any indication, the XA20 replacement might be expected around three years after release of the XA20, but that is pure speculation. Consider for example that the GL2 was not replaced (unless you consider the XH-A1 to have been its replacement). The announcement will typically be well in advance of the availability date to allow for purchase planning.

Price is anyone's guess, but history indicates that it will be generally in line with the XA20 price point adjusted for inflation and market place conditions.

Only Canon knows and they are not saying (unless something is being leaked or announced at NAB).

Bottom line is buy it when you need it but be sure to allow for time learning curve befoer a money shoot.

Khalil Ismail
September 1st, 2014, 11:52 AM
Thank you all for a great Post that I have been following for a while, I ordered the Camera will test it before I buy the 2nd one. I am still worried about one posy about the issue with photographer flashes since I am part time wedding Videographer. Thank you all

Khalil Ismail
September 17th, 2014, 01:21 PM
The Flash Issue has been fixed with the new firmware update it looks like from my test.

Stephen Dey
September 19th, 2014, 11:49 AM
Khalil,
I presume you are referring to the updated Firmware Version 1.0.4.0, which was issued on 17th April 2014 ?

Khalil Ismail
September 28th, 2014, 05:48 PM
Yes Stephen,that what hold me back from buying the camera till now since I do wedding .

Derek Craig
September 29th, 2014, 01:29 PM
just wondered where you got the vertical hot shoe as noted in this picture below? also, what mic is that?

IMG_20130803_140808_993_20130803143433012_zps47f74dfd.jpg Photo by decraig2000 | Photobucket (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/decraig2000/media/IMG_20130803_140808_993_20130803143433012_zps47f74dfd.jpg.html)

i only use mics with AA powering (only wanna stock one support battery for dslr's and video camcorders.

getting an xa20 this week or next. any thoughts as to when there might be an xa30 ?? and/or price ?

Sorry for the long delay as I just now saw this. The "vertical hot shoe" that you are referring to is not really a hot shoe. It is simply a piece of aluminum plate that I fabricated. Just plate bent at a right angle and then holes drilled to match the wireless mic's mounting holes. I drilled a couple holes in the Rode mic holder and bolted the aluminum plate to the under side using simple machine screws. Just a little home brew ingenuity is all.